Does anyone understand the whole Fed losing in practice sets thing?

vex

Hall of Fame
These tales of dudes who can beat Fed in practice and then he stomps them in the real thing.... what’s the deal?

Is Fed playing super loose? Trying different tactics? Not really trying? Rope-a-doping them?
 

citybert

Hall of Fame
These tales of dudes who can beat Fed in practice and then he stomps them in the real thing.... what’s the deal?

Is Fed playing super loose? Trying different tactics? Not really trying? Rope-a-doping them?
Its the mental part. he basically is not in those saves it for matches. Willpower is not an unlimited source.

His concentration is just off. He also has way more shanks in practice sets
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Federer's biggest strength is his mental strength. Otherwise he's just a poor mans Santoro with a bigger serve. When the pressure is off it's easy for shotmakers to blow him off the court but in matches his junkballing is enough to upset more talented players.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
LOL, in one of Federer's last practice sets ahead of Wimbledon 2017 he got bageled by Tomas effing Berdych. Let that sink in. Of course went on to win the title without dropping a set, including against Berdych.

You can easily see that he plays it kinda loose, treating it more like … practice! Trying more to improve certain aspects and find a rhythm rather than win. Every top player does this to an extent, but Fed surely more than most. That said, he does occasionally win practice sets against top players too, lol.
 
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Mack-2

Professional
I keep hearing this all the time. Where are the reports that he loses practice sets? Where’s the source? Last Wimby someone here said that he lost 6-0 to Berdych in a practice set.
 
Federer's biggest strength is his mental strength. Otherwise he's just a poor mans Santoro with a bigger serve. When the pressure is off it's easy for shotmakers to blow him off the court but in matches his junkballing is enough to upset more talented players.
Please...
Fed is not santoro with big serve
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
I have seen Fed lose many practice sets at Indian Wells over the years to Blake, Jerzy and Gasquet. He doesn’t go all out in public practice sessions at all. He’s playing at about 70%. Nadal plays all out in practice, not Fed.
 
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ChaelAZ

Legend
We are lucky at my facilty to have university players so we get to practice and hit at times. I have taken points and games against them, but I am certainly not kidding myself to think that means anything about my game being good. More that they were just hitting around, trying fun shots, or just getting a good warm-up. Match play I would be lucky to get points. I am sure the same is true at every level.
 

Goof

Semi-Pro
Fed states often that he treats practices as a chance to try out new shots and things he might not necessarily be ready to use yet in real matches.
 
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Fabresque

Professional
He probably is really loose and just does whatever in practice. I’ve seen him play on YouTube, he doesn’t care about them.

Also, when players win a set against him they immediately start to think “Wow, I actually have a chance against him!” Only for Federer to squash them 6-3 6-1 6-1 in the second round of a slam. It’s his mental strength and how he plays in matches. Regardless of what you think, Roger plays like a pusher especially on his backhand side when he plays someone similar. Zverev, Murray, and countless others get frustrated by Fed’s play style. He’ll throw a couple backhand slices that they can’t do anything about because pushers, and because his disguise is so good he’ll make the same motion but drop the slice short, forcing them to go to the net with a terrible approach shot. All that’s left to do is pass them, something Federer is a master in.
 

Tuskarr

Semi-Pro
Working on something in practice that doesn't pan out?

Happens all the time when I play friends in practice sets. Players that might beat me in practice bc I'm trying new things, but they never beat me in a league match.
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame
LOL, in one of Federer's last practice sets ahead of Wimbledon 2017 he got bageled by Tomas effing Berdych. Let that sink in. Of course went on to win the title without dropping a set, including against Berdych.

You can easily see that he plays it kinda loose, treating it more like … practice! Trying more to improve certain aspects and find a rhythm rather than win. Every top player does this to an extent, but Fed surely more than most. That said, he does occasionally win practice sets against top players too, lol.
omg, really?! screenshot or it didn't happen.. :p
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
He is tuning his shots, not going 100% in them.

It is very fulfilling to hit and visualise the slightly different effort, and the reserves in power and precision for when the real match rolls around.

I don't know what the deal of his training partners is.

Do they go much harder just to be able to sustain practice hitting with him?

I have seen him hit with junior players, and they are visibly overpowered.

With ATP players it doesn't look like that.
 

sarmpas

Hall of Fame
What's the surprise here. Pete and Boris never even played flat out at an official tournament like Queens prior to Wimbledon, so what's so surprising about a top player giving even less during practice.
 
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