Does club tennis ever intersect with D1 program ?

FiddlerDog

Professional
If a UTR 9 or 10 goes to a D1 school, and plays club tennis, will there ever be a chance to hit with the D1 players ?
How often do these 2 programs interact, if ever ?
 

TennisDawg

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D1 players compete against other D1 players and practice with other D1 players. Club players are mainly recreational players. Some D1 players interact with club players as tennis teachers:
 

Larry Duff

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I once talked to the former coach at Indiana about this. He said he would never consider it and they had a very small roster (at one time travelled with 5 to a weekend dual meet in conference) and were far from a top program. He said the standard difference was huge and the work he had to do to go through eligibility and get them in the right class times just wasn't worth it.
 

FiddlerDog

Professional
I once talked to the former coach at Indiana about this. He said he would never consider it and they had a very small roster (at one time travelled with 5 to a weekend dual meet in conference) and were far from a top program. He said the standard difference was huge and the work he had to do to go through eligibility and get them in the right class times just wasn't worth it.
No, I mean informal stuff like hitting with each other, becoming friends, etc
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
@FiddlerDog D1 players-even at MM level- are too busy to hit with club players. There are the 20 countable hours, the 10+ that are not countable, the expectation to attend home games for other nonrevenue sports, and of course attending class and doing coursework (also laundry, grocery shopping, cooking too if off campus). When they are already spending 30+ hours on tennis related activities, they are probably not going to spend their limited free time playing more tennis with a friend from junior tennis who is now on the club team. A lot of college athletes do not do any college activities outside athletics-hard to even find time to attend career fairs. Now they might hit with those players off campus in the summer or on holidays. The club players are usually Americans, and they know other players from their region from junior and/or high school tennis. There are club players who were 4 star at one time, but they were not good enough to play at their college of their academic choice. Sometimes a D1 player will hit with a tennis friend who is trying to improve enough to walk on the team. The local HS team had players that went to D1, D2, D3, and club; they would all get together and hit over summer and winter breaks but no time for that during college school year.
 

JW10S

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I once coached a player who was a pretty good junior, good enough to earn a decent sectional ranking but not good enough to compete nationally. He was hoping to play college tennis but then was awarded an academic scholarship to a school that had one of top D1 programs in the country. There was no way he was going to be able to walk on to the tennis team so I suggested he look into the club program. He joined and had a blast. But he said there was absolutely no interaction between the club players and the varsity team or it's coaches.
 

FiddlerDog

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As a start, maybe the club players could at least attend the D1 home matches and see if the door is open to networking ?
 

bobleenov1963

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One of my relatives, his son, has an 11.8 UTR, not good enough to play for University of Virginia by a long shot; however, he got a academic scholarship (tuiion, room & board) at George Mason University. He could probably play either #3 or #4 for George Mason University but neither nor his parents are not interested in playing tennis for George Mason because he is going to major in pre-med at George Mason and he just does not have time for tennis. He was also accepted to UVA but decided to stay local due to Covid-19 and classes at George Mason are much easier than at UVA, and therefore, it is much easier to get 4.0 GPA at George Mason than at UVA :).

He could have played with players on the team roster if he wanted to but he doesn't. So, the answer is it depends on the school.
 
Unless you are paying them for lessons or are already a friend of theirs, probably not. I mean, think about it, if you were a D1 tennis player, 12 or 13 UTR, why would you waste time hitting with a club player when you could be improving challenging guys on your D1 team? If you are good friends or paying them to teach you thats different. But I would not go around asking to hit with them cause it would come off as fishing for free lessons or tips.

Just hit with the club guys, can't be that bad man.
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
If a club player wants to hit with a D1 player, best chance is to look for hits during the summer. US D1 players with year-round off campus housing may have internship in college city. When the internationals (usually 60% of team) go home for the summer, unless the area is a strong area for the tennis, the D1 player may have trouble finding competitive hits and may be willing to hit for free with juniors, club players, etc within 1.5 UTR. One summer, my son (UTR high was 13+) was calling around clubs in his college town looking for top juniors to hit with (for free). Now many D1 players just spend the summer playing tourneys, but if you can find out who is staying put and working, that is your best shot. UTR has an option for players to message players to ask for a hit, and they also have a paid hits option which is already live or going live soon. Club players could also message players via IG-many who are not working as a summer tennis pro might hit for $20/25 hour if player came to their courts; a few summers ago, an SEC player who played 1 or 2 was just charging $25-30/hr but in our area there were a lot of D1 players. In other areas with few D1 players, players could charge a lot more. if you go through a club, obviously you will pay more. Definitely expect to pay if UTR 2.0 or more difference.
 
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Nacho

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Depends on the school and how involved/supportive the Club team is of the Varsity team, or how welcoming the varsity team is of the support; some cases they interact, in others there is none. I definitely have not heard of varsity players making it a habit to hit with club players.
 
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