Does going to work just suck for you ???

#7
I'm commuting right now and experiencing schadenfreude by reading of @dgold44 's misery.

Speaking of virus, one just tried to invade my phone when I tried to research a really dangerous place to live. Surprised to see my Orlando at #3 behind only St. Louis and Hotlanta. Lost Wages didn't make top 10.
 
#9
"Work" is an idea originally forced on ordinary people by kings in order to enslave them for their (kings') benefit. With the help of religion, it was made into a virtue.

Animals don't work. They don't have to "earn" their "living."

Work is a gigantic fraud used to keep people in subjugation.
are you suggesting we all become entrepreneurs in some way?
 

jaggy

Talk Tennis Guru
#10
The technology exists to have robots do the vast majority of the work. We could all sit back and enjoy life but that would mean the people at the top would have to give up their dominance.

Therefore we work.
 
#12
"Work" is an idea originally forced on ordinary people by kings in order to enslave them for their (kings') benefit. With the help of religion, it was made into a virtue.

Animals don't work. They don't have to "earn" their "living."

Work is a gigantic fraud used to keep people in subjugation.
So you don’t work ??
Are you a lazy , welfare slob or trust fund brat
 
#13
Work doesn't suck for me. Mostly pros. Co-workers great.

You said you had some money. Why torture yourself in Las Vermin? Retire...get another job. Or,if you can't beat em, join em. Sharpen your panhandling skills and stake your claim on an unoccupied street corner. I'd do something if my job sucked as bad as yours. Good luck.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
#15
Depends on what defines "work". A coal-miner or construction worker would probably laugh at what most of us call "work".
We would also laugh at what he calls education.

This notion of "real" work is nonsense. A coal-miner (who really should not have the job, just like a tobacco farmer) benefits from other people's work in various ways, including when he uses an app.
 
#17
We would also laugh at what he calls education.

This notion of "real" work is nonsense. A coal-miner (who really should not have the job, just like a tobacco farmer) benefits from other people's work in various ways, including when he uses an app.
The real work is design and engineering work to build these things. Then you need far fewer miners to get the same amount of coal.

 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
#18
The technology exists to have robots do the vast majority of the work. We could all sit back and enjoy life but that would mean the people at the top would have to give up their dominance.

Therefore we work.
Correct. For those guys, it is the same whether humans or robots do the work - actually robots are more efficient. What terrifies them is that they will lose their power over humans if only robots do the work.
 
#19
You're actually a pretty smart guy, which is why when you post things so stupid it shocks me.

But you do it because there are no consequences, which is typical of all people who participate in any kind of social media.
Sometimes I have to do that for the sake of fans like @r2473
"Work" is an idea originally forced on ordinary people by kings in order to enslave them for their (kings') benefit. With the help of religion, it was made into a virtue.

Animals don't work. They don't have to "earn" their "living."

Work is a gigantic fraud used to keep people in subjugation.
Thanks for thinking of me again
 
#25
The technology exists to have robots do the vast majority of the work. We could all sit back and enjoy life but
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No way. Not MY job. There is no way a robot would know what I am going to google next on the company computer. In fact, NOBODY knows.....lolololol.

*phone rings*

me- "hello?"

"hi, this is your IT department. We just read what you posted on the TW site. We are going to block tha
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
#26
Lol
Figures

Work sucks but we all have to pay bills and your utopia Leninist world has always failed
Leninism was about work! It was about workers getting paid right and not being exploited. Actually it was about workers finding work in the first place without needing to curry favors. The idea emerged in the industrial revolution when people could not sustain themselves by agriculture, and flocked to cities to work for factory owners under inhuman conditions, when they were allowed to work at all. Every morning they stood in line hoping that the owner would like their face and invite them in.

When the conditions improved, it became less and less relevant.

My utopia is not Leninism, Marxism, socialism, populism, or capitalism. No ism survives forever because conditions change, and when it does, it is only in name and actually becomes a hybrid of other isms.

My utopia is no work at all. Robots do the work, those who want to program robots do that work and get highly rewarded for it. The rest (or the same person who no longer wants to program robots) enjoys universal basic income for tennis and other needs, and gets free health care.

That is already what those born into wealth do today. To prevent the masses from rioting, they pretend to work with a serious face, and also throw in some philanthropy on the side to fool the people.
 
#27
Leninism was about work! It was about workers getting paid right and not being exploited. Actually it was about workers finding work in the first place without needing to curry favors. The idea emerged in the industrial revolution when people could not sustain themselves by agriculture, and flocked to cities to work for factory owners under inhuman conditions, when they were allowed to work at all. Every morning they stood in line hoping that the owner would like their face and invite them in.

When the conditions improved, it became less and less relevant.

My utopia is not Leninism, Marxism, socialism, populism, or capitalism. No ism survives forever because conditions change, and when it does, it is only in name and actually becomes a hybrid of other isms.

My utopia is no work at all. Robots do the work, those who want to program robots do that work and get highly rewarded for it. The rest (or the same person who no longer wants to program robots) enjoys universal basic income for tennis and other needs, and gets free health care.

That is already what those born into wealth do today. To prevent the masses from rioting, they pretend to work with a serious face, and also throw in some philanthropy on the side to fool the people.
Fantasy world as their will always be unsuccessful people and those who actuality want to accomplish something
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
#29
So just sit home and smoke pot and drink and play video games lol
I used to think that the boredom would be unbearable. But having seen several players at my club retire, I have changed my mind. They say that they don't miss work at all, and are having a lot of fun playing tennis daily, visiting children and grandchildren, and pursuing their other hobbies. As the old joke goes, no one ever said after retirement that I wish I had worked more.
 
#31
… between 2011 and 2012, the polling company Gallup conducted the most detailed study ever carried out of how people feel about the thing we spend most of our waking lives doing – our paid work. They found that 13% of people say they are “engaged” in their work – they find it meaningful and look forward to it. Some 63% say they are “not engaged”, which is defined as “sleepwalking through their workday”. And 24% are “actively disengaged”: they hate it.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
#32
Work is a middle class necessity turned into a virtue and religious morality issue.

But look at the big religious figures in every religion. They don't seem to have worked. Many had no skills to speak of.

Yet idiots like us pride ourselves on working.

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#33
I'm utterly sad every day in my life because I didn't invested in cryptos back in 2011 so now I'd be a 26yo multi-millionaire with no obligations (and probably would've ODd by the end of last year, but who cares)
 
#34
Leninism was about work! It was about workers getting paid right and not being exploited. Actually it was about workers finding work in the first place without needing to curry favors. The idea emerged in the industrial revolution when people could not sustain themselves by agriculture, and flocked to cities to work for factory owners under inhuman conditions, when they were allowed to work at all. Every morning they stood in line hoping that the owner would like their face and invite them in.

When the conditions improved, it became less and less relevant.

My utopia is not Leninism, Marxism, socialism, populism, or capitalism. No ism survives forever because conditions change, and when it does, it is only in name and actually becomes a hybrid of other isms.

My utopia is no work at all. Robots do the work, those who want to program robots do that work and get highly rewarded for it. The rest (or the same person who no longer wants to program robots) enjoys universal basic income for tennis and other needs, and gets free health care.

That is already what those born into wealth do today. To prevent the masses from rioting, they pretend to work with a serious face, and also throw in some philanthropy on the side to fool the people.
I agree that this has to happen at some point. Machines took away the easy work but AI will take away qualified jobs in business administration, engineering and other stuff too. At some point machines will replicate and evolve themselves and interact with each other.

In the end all the machines can work together, improve themselves and do the work including stuff like software programming and data analysis and no humans will be needed.

Then 3 things can happen:

1. Machine generated wealth gets distributed

2.very few humans own all machines and make trillions, the rest starves

3. Intelligent machines kill all people or enslave them:)

This will maybe take 200 years but eventually it happens.
 

Enga

Professional
#35
One shouldnt pride themselves off of benefiting from someone elses's work, though. One should at least be able to support themself. If they can manage to do no work, but in a way where theyre not a burden to anyone, theyve done well for themselves I'd say.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
#36
Old thinking - all this self-sufficiency and all that. People who work and "contribute" also pollute the environment more. Nobody talks about that.

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#37
"Work" is an idea originally forced on ordinary people by kings in order to enslave them for their (kings') benefit. With the help of religion, it was made into a virtue.

Animals don't work. They don't have to "earn" their "living."

Work is a gigantic fraud used to keep people in subjugation.
@Bartelby will be impressed. Socialist uprising.

Or are you going back to the barter system? You get food in exchange for teaching.....

 
#40
"Work" is an idea originally forced on ordinary people by kings in order to enslave them for their (kings') benefit. With the help of religion, it was made into a virtue.

Animals don't work. They don't have to "earn" their "living."

Work is a gigantic fraud used to keep people in subjugation.
I know some "play" that is a giant fraud and it is the opiate of The Vortexians. Wanna see it???
 
#42
I agree that this has to happen at some point. Machines took away the easy work but AI will take away qualified jobs in business administration, engineering and other stuff too. At some point machines will replicate and evolve themselves and interact with each other.

In the end all the machines can work together, improve themselves and do the work including stuff like software programming and data analysis and no humans will be needed.

Then 3 things can happen:

1. Machine generated wealth gets distributed

2.very few humans own all machines and make trillions, the rest starves

3. Intelligent machines kill all people or enslave them:)

This will maybe take 200 years but eventually it happens.
Actually, there is a 4th thing that will happen.
For entertainment the machines will watch humans play tennis.
 
#44
Other than sleep, work is usually the activity we spend the most time on, so years ago I told myself I will only do work I enjoy or find rewarding in some way.

Some jobs have been so enjoyable that after working 22 straight hours I still didn't feel tired.
 
#45
I know some "play" that is a giant fraud and it is the opiate of The Vortexians. Wanna see it???
Do I have a tendency to always bring up the same negative subject matter all the time ? ?
Seems 1/2 my posts are about how I perceive Vegas ???

I feel like Noah’s arch but my little apartment cannot hold up to outside tsunami of gutter filth and trash
 
#48
Fantasy world as their will always be unsuccessful people and those who actuality want to accomplish something
Oh, their always will be?

The only real thing accomplished is being a shining example of a self-absorbed, achievement-minded, goal-oriented, opportunistic parasite.
 
#50
pros

I have no jerk boss

Cons

Rude customers all day
Boring repetitive tasks
Semi dangerous surrounding area
Mentally Ill and psychotic customers
Feels like I am in a prison
I’ve definitely been there and endured that kinda torture. I actually had some symptoms of PTSD.

But I set aside time and made a big effort for better jobs. Now I’m earning very decently with pension and benefits and all I have to do is sit in an air conditioned vehicle making sure the sky is clear.

Don’t give up hope
 
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