Does playing ping pong help or hurt tennis

SystemicAnomaly

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Oh good!!! Congrats! DNA test or it's fake news.
No DNA test needed as far as I'm concerned. All progenitors ended up in the Hawaiian islands in the 1880s. Have seen some of the shipping records. One grandfather was obviously Chinese. Could see it in my mom as well. Possible Chinese blood (but less) from one of my other grandparents as well.

Proud of my Chinese heritage but not pleased with treatment from many first gen Chinese ppl that I have come across. Rude, arrogant, condescending & insulting. No such problem with 2nd gen Chinese-Americans. Also, good relationship with my Hong Kong college roommate. For the most part, have not had a negative experience with most people from other Asian countries: Japan, Korea, India, Thailand, Vietnam & other SE Asian countries.

 
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rogerroger917

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No DNA test needed as far as I'm concerned. All progenitors ended up in the Hawaiian islands in the 1880s. Have seen some of the shipping records. One grandfather was obviously Chinese. Could see it in my mom as well. Possible Chinese blood (but less) from one of my other grandparents as well.

Proud of my Chinese heritage but not pleased with treatment from many first gen Chinese ppl that I have come across. Rude, condescending & insulting. No such problem with 2nd gen Chinese-Americans. Also, good relationship with my Hong Kong college roommate. For the most part, have not had a negative experience with most people from other Asian countries: Japan, Korea, India, Thailand, Vietnam & other SE Asian countries.

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Addxyz

Professional
Penholder is inferior because you can only hit a blocked backhand and not a topspin BH. PH players thus need to run around the BH a lot and play mostly forehand (like carlos moya in tennis:)). Shakehand means you can attack with both wings.

Ph is good for the short game and close to the table but once you are away from the table you are in a big disadvantage, as a PH thus you need to strike first and kill the ball quickly.
You must not have been watching table tennis (or playing) in years. Reverse Penhold Backhand solves this.

 

Addxyz

Professional
Back on topic, I feel some things like footwork and hand-eye coordination can carry over, stroke mechanics do not. Similarly, my badminton background improved my serving, overheads and backhand overheads, but not much else carried over.
 

Taveren

Professional
I played table tennis when I was in elementary and high school, I was an above average player meaning I can exchange top spin rallies both wings, I was good enough to give varsity players a good workout but never stood a chance when playing for points.

In my experience transitioning from tennis to table tennis is rather difficult as the timing and spacing is very different. Low to high motion is same but leg drive is more crucial in TT as you dont release and follow through.

Squash would be a better secondary complimentary sport to Tennis IMO.
 

SystemicAnomaly

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Back on topic, I feel some things like footwork and hand-eye coordination can carry over, stroke mechanics do not. Similarly, my badminton background improved my serving, overheads and backhand overheads, but not much else carried over.
I've taught tennis to quite a few competitive (B level) badminton players. Not difficult to adapt the badm overhead to a tennis smash. They generally picked up tennis volleys and serves fairly easily. Badm has push shots and volley-like shots that are similar to tennis volleys. Badminton "finger power" can be adapted for tennis volleys and serves. Competitive badminton players will often develop touch shots in tennis fairly easily. Quick reflexes (reaction time) developed in badm can carry over to tennis -- esp for net play. Competitive singles baddie players have excellent hand-eye coordination & stamina that can be a great benefit for competitive tennis play.
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SystemicAnomaly

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@Pandora Mikado
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Squash would be a better secondary complimentary sport to Tennis IMO.
Undoubtedly some cross-over from squash to tennis. RF played squash in his younger years. Could be why he is so good at the tennis "squash" shot. I believe that Andy Murray may have played some as well. Ditto for Bjorn Borg. Probably others. Downside. Squash shots are typically hit flat or with backspin. Don't believe that topspin is employed for squash. TT is better in this respect.
 

SystemicAnomaly

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Bjorn Borg:


Borg vs Sharif Khan (elite squash player)

Rackelton history:

The image of Borg vs Khan (squash player), playing PP was from a multi-racket sport competition about 1980 (possibly even in the late '70s). This event was a forerunner to the multi-sport competition, Rackelton. In the competition with Borg & Khan, all the participants played in each of 5 different sports (tennis, squash, ping pong, badminton & racquetball). Except they did not compete in their primary sport, I believe. I'm pretty certain that it was Sharif Khan (squash player) who won this event. I posted this information previously, under the SystemicAnomaly nom, on a badminton website (Badminton Central) way back in 2001. I discovered that this BC posting had been re-posted by someone to the Rackelton site:

http://www.racketlon.com/newborgrack.html

Badminton Central (Peter Gade vs Andre Agassi thread):
https://www.badmintoncentral.com/fo...s/peter-gade-vs-andré-agassi.2086/#post-17388
 

SystemicAnomaly

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@Pandora Mikado
It also creates a lot of bad muscle memory which has to be unlearned, mainly excessive use of wrist.
Not true. It's a myth. Excessive wrist not employed in PP (or badminton). Mild /minor wrist action with generous forearm action (rotation) should be employed. And it's not bad muscle memory. It's somewhat different muscle memory that can be modified & adapted.

I learned PP years before tennis. Picked up tennis at 21. Tennis was somewhat more difficult to learn, initially. But was not all that difficult to adapt my PP skills to develop my tennis mechanics. Did not hold me back. Ditto, when I picked up badminton at 27. Initially, was able to beat low intermediate badminton players using my tennis strokes. But was able to adapt those to develop proper badminton strokes to compete with more advanced badminton players.
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S&V-not_dead_yet

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It also creates a lot of bad muscle memory which has to be unlearned, mainly excessive use of wrist.
So said my HS tennis coach but I played tennis, racquetball, and TT, seemingly without one negatively impacting the others.

The fast reactions needed in TT definitely helped my tennis net game. And I never developed a very wristy tennis FH as a result of TT.

Of course, trying to play penholder style in tennis will probably not work so well.
 

S&V-not_dead_yet

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So said my HS tennis coach but I played tennis, racquetball, and TT, seemingly without one negatively impacting the others.

The fast reactions needed in TT definitely helped my tennis net game. And I never developed a very wristy tennis FH as a result of TT.

Of course, trying to play penholder style in tennis will probably not work so well and neither does S&V in TT.
 

mcs1970

Hall of Fame
I like Ping Pong, but the carryover effect is way overrated. It's a fun game to play. That's it. Play squash or racquetball in the winter if you can't play tennis. At least you'll beat a lot of your peers due to being in much better shape than them when Tennis season starts again.
 
It's like saying a fork is like a chopstick. That king fu is really just American boxing. Bruce Lee is basically Chuck Norris.

Yes you can get the ranking. You can get the trophy. But you have lost your soul. We are called the Middle Kingdom for a reason. The rest of you peasants were living in caves when China had Dynasties.



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Quit trying to claim superiority. It's obvious you are North Korean.
 

SystemicAnomaly

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TT, PP, TTW ... I'm so co_Onfus:eek:d
TTW = TT = TW forum
PP
= TT (well, not exactly)

TT used in 2 different contexts. One, in reference to the TW forums. The other refers to a game/sport.

Not sure if it's still true, but Ping Pong was a trademarked name at one time (early 20th century?). So some manufacturers started referring to their equipment with the name, Table Tennis. Or something like that. Will have to look up the history again. Anyway, most ppl use the 2 names interchangeably.

But to further confuse things, the name, Ping Pong, has recently used for a variation of Table Tennis -- with slightly different rules & equipment. This, in the past 2 decades IIRC.
 
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AesBinz

New User
Not really, unless you get the habit of trying to hit a strong forehand using power on elbow instead of body rotation/whole arm where you might hurt it which is common to ping pong players who are new to tennis and wants to slug out or trying their best to give a strong shot. Backhand slice is good for people coming from ping pong though, which is also the 1st shot I learned and hit consistently when I started to play tennis.
 
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