Does Stan win RG'17 if he faces Novak in the finals?

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By the final, Stan was injured and ended up getting knee surgery just a couple months later (after losing in the first round at Wimbledon). So I doubt he'll be able to succeed against 2014 Joco.
 
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Toss up. I would favor Novak, but Stan tends to get hungry and beast when they face each other in BO5.

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Novichok said:
By the final, Stan was injured and ended up getting knee surgery just a couple months later (after losing in the first round at Wimbledon). So I doubt he'll be able to succeed against Joco.
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That true. RG'17, in a way, finished stan's and murray's career.
 
Stan 17 could lose to many versions of Djokovic, he was injured and struggled with his movement.
But what version of Djokovic beats 2015 Stan?
 
beard said:
Yeah, Novak has many loses, we all know that... but he has even more imaginary ones... :rolleyes:
By the way, Novak cleaned all his FO loses by sweeping the floor with Nadal this year, and made himself definitely immortal, even at FO... :sneaky:
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He cleaned up his 7 losses by beating injured 35yo Nadal that was struggling all season? Let's not get crazy :alien:
 
beard said:
Sure, one post is bigger than a numberless imaginary threads over a decade where Fed beats everyone and Novak loses to everyone... (y)
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Nah, there have been many in recent times. I think ageing players become better retrospectively. Oldvak too 8-B
 
Djokovic 2017 rg would lose to stan 17 rg, Djokovic lost to Thiem who was no way close to his peak and you think he would beat his worst matchup Big match player Stan
 
Yes he would have. The version of Djokovic in 2017 was the worst. Thiem bagelled him in quarterfinal. Wawrinka beat a very in form Murray in semifinals. Nadal is just a terrible matchup for Wawrinka on clay but he always brings his best tennis against Djokovic. If he could beat 2015 Djokovic, 2017 shouldn't even be a question.
 
Nadal_King said:
Djokovic 2017 rg would lose to stan 17 rg, Djokovic lost to Thiem who was no way close to his peak and you think he would beat his worst matchup Big match player Stan
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Tennisfan339 said:
Yes he would have. The version of Djokovic in 2017 was the worst. Thiem bagelled him in quarterfinal. Wawrinka beat a very in form Murray in semifinals. Nadal is just a terrible matchup for Wawrinka on clay but he always brings his best tennis against Djokovic. If he could beat 2015 Djokovic, 2017 shouldn't even be a question.
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Actually I mentioned that we'll take an average Nole like RG'14. Novak 2017 can only be compared only to fed'13 and rafa'15.
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What are your takes? Lets say Stan faces 2014 Novak in the finals(2017 Novak wouldn't reach the finals anyway.)
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Novak was pretty bad in the QF where he got bageled by Thiem (who then proceeded to roll over for Nadal). Even if Stan was off his best in the final - the Murray SF took a toll on him - I think I would favor him over that version of Djokovic barring a possible injury.
 
Third Serve said:
Novak was pretty bad in the QF where he got bageled by Thiem (who then proceeded to roll over for Nadal). Even if Stan was off his best in the final - the Murray SF took a toll on him - I think I would favor him over that version of Djokovic barring a possible injury.
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RG'14 Nole vs RG'17 stan?
 
King No1e said:
This but unironically. Find me a clip of Djokovic fuming post-match about his opponent getting "lucky"
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I commented on the clips you and @MichaelNadal posted, which sum up some basic stuff from that rivalry. After both matches, they had a nice moment at the net. They always do.

Stan celebrated his win, which was a RG title, normally, then went over to Djokovic after a while to talk to him, because he saw how disappointed he was. While Novak, after winning an epic 5 setter in R16, ripped his shirt open and walked around like a wrestler.

I know what kind of celebration I find graceful :)

Not sure what Federer had to do with this, amigo...
 
junior74 said:
I commented on the clips you and @MichaelNadal posted, which sum up some basic stuff from that rivalry. After both matches, they had a nice moment at the net. They always do.

Stan celebrated his win, which was a RG title, normally, then went over to Djokovic after a while to talk to him, because he saw how disappointed he was. While Novak, after winning an epic 5 setter in R16, ripped his shirt open and walked around like a wrestler.

I know what kind of celebration I find graceful :)

Not sure what Federer had to do with this, amigo...
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That's true, Stan did go over to Novak at the end while Djokovic didn't at AO13, maybe because they didn't know each other as well back then. Still, he applauded Stan on his way out and congratulated him generously during the on-court interview.

And celebrating wildly after that epic win is really irrelevant. You can show class toward the opponent while also celebrating a win for what it's worth.

And when you already have the reputation for being the most gracious loser on the tour, you've earned the right to celebrate the wins as much as you'd like. I can't stand players who go crazy after winning but can't take a loss.
 
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