Does TE pain continue without treatment

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by maximo, Sep 21, 2008.

  1. maximo

    maximo Banned

    Jul 26, 2008
    Around a week ago my elbow after playing 2 hours was really in pain, the symptoms have practically disappeared however when i stretch my arm infront of me i can still feel a bit of pain. Will this stay or will the pain go away completely sooner or later?

    thanks, maximo
  2. SystemicAnomaly

    SystemicAnomaly G.O.A.T.

    Feb 25, 2006
    Stuck in the Matrix somewhere in Santa Clara CA
    If this really is TE, you should be icing it after playing -- several times a day. TE is characterized by micro-tears in the tendons (attached to the lateral epicondyle) and inflammation of the area. The pain (& inflammation) may subside after a while, but it will probably take a bit of time to repair those tiny tears in the tendons. If the root cause for the tears and inflammation is not corrected, the TE will come back to haunt you again & again.

    Last edited: Sep 22, 2008
  3. maximo

    maximo Banned

    Jul 26, 2008
    would you therefore advise me not to play tennis for a while, also your saying the pain may seem gone but will actually come back?
  4. larry10s

    larry10s Hall of Fame

    Apr 4, 2008
  5. supertrex

    supertrex Semi-Pro

    May 12, 2008
    once you have it it wont go away, it will subsude but it will always come back.

    Ice and rest. and good form will help prevent future injury.
  6. user92626

    user92626 Legend

    Jan 27, 2008
    Have you been having alot to twisting motion, as in windshield wiper, or over-stretching your arm as you swing? 1hbh easily incorporates overstretching one's arm and causes TE.

    don't play, let it recover. Then, come back and fix your form.
  7. JohnTN

    JohnTN New User

    Dec 1, 2005
    From my experience the pain will eventually subside if you stop the activity that aggravates it. It may take weeks or months depending on how severe the injury is. I developed golfers elbow three years ago. Once I figured out that I had to quit playing and give it time, it took 6 months before I could start playing on a limited basis and about a year before I was playing 3 times a week with no pain.

    The link in response #4 above is basically what I followed -- RICE, mostly RI and excercise to strengthen the forearms and wrist. Don't think the compression band did any good while I was trying to play before it was completely healed. Oh, and I changed from a light weight head-heavy racquet (Wilson Hammer) to a heavier head-light racquet (PK 5g).

    If you have just developed the pain, it might not take you but a few weeks to be pain free and start gradually doing the excercises. But if you continue to play despite the pain you will be in for a long recovery period. Some people say they have played through the pain, but I wouldn't try that.
  8. topsltennis

    topsltennis Semi-Pro

    Aug 31, 2005
    I've played right through several episodes of "golfers elbow" as well as a couple of pretty bad cases of tendonitis in the wrist. The wrist got so bad you could actually hear it making a creaking sound. Despite the pain I never took a day off. The wrist is fine lately but I still have some pain with the elbow when warming up. I'm not suggesting by any means you follow what I did- but somehow I seem to be able to get through it.
  9. JediMindTrick

    JediMindTrick Hall of Fame

    Nov 7, 2005
    From my experience, if you stop playing, it will go away completely in a couple more weeks. I had GE last year and I stopped playing right away. After a week it was pretty much gone only I would still feel it when I stretched my forearm. After two more weeks I couldn't feel anything so I started doing some light exercises and I started playing after two more weeks. More than a year later it didn't come back, thank god!
  10. scotus

    scotus G.O.A.T.

    Jul 5, 2005
    You either got a very mild case or are very very young.

    If you ask most people in their 40s or above, I would venture to guess that the average healing time with complete rest is around 6 months.
  11. princemidplus

    princemidplus Rookie

    Aug 11, 2008
    usually it needs something to help reduce inflammation, something to reduce muscle tension (usually massage of the extensor carpi muscles which extend your wrist). possibly stretches to the above muscles. depending if your radial nerve is affected that may need mobilisation as well. most people tend to need fairly firm massage but not all so I cannot say without more specific information.

    with the above and using ice after playing tennis/doing extra work at home that hurts it, your recovery can be from one month up to 3 or 4 months.
  12. MCN

    MCN Rookie

    Jun 9, 2005
    My TE lasted for 2 years first time round and I rested, had injections, plus did various physio exercises - never really got better (or at least I couldn't hold a racquet without pain). A specialist told me to try and play through the pain (although gently) and it actually got a bit better and eventually a lot better. (It actually felt worse some days when rested - very strange). Unfortunately, a year on, I was doing some housework for a few days - using heavy duty screwdrivers and decorating - BIG mistake. TE came back and is now really painful again. I'm still playing through the pain - but it is quite bad. It's a really horrible ailment to get rid of - especially when you're older and your body doesn't heal the way it used to.
  13. Tombhoneb

    Tombhoneb Rookie

    Jul 30, 2008
    If you lift light weights concentrating on the forearm muscles, could you strengthen the area around the pain. Would this in turn help stop tennis elbow ? I ask as i have TE .. the only thing i have changed is more weight training and it seems to have pretty much gone. I do not think i have changed my technique in any way.
  14. Martingale

    Martingale Rookie

    Aug 7, 2007
    As some have said here, as TE pain subsides one might think that all has healed, but this might not be so. TE after a while becomes a degenerative disease. The tendon tissue will have been replaced and the mini tears, as well as the pain, vanished, but the low blood circulation with its low amount of lymphocytes will have prevented full healing. The new tissue will be of lower, degenerate, quality, as can be seen in dissections. So once TE, chances are you can easily re-injure it again, and many people seem to witness this. One should remain vigilant, not use screwdrivers with brute force, not open jars as if nothing had happened, not hit one-handed backhands with all one's might or with poor tennis technique (eg overly relying on arm muscles to generate power).

    Mild muscle workouts help as they strengthen muscles, and therefore reduce the pulling on the tendon, and they also might encourage blood flow as well as lactic acid production, both helpful in tendon healing. Of course, doing them too often or too vigorously means you worsen the tears, so there is a fine line to walk. TE pain can indeed linger for years, and the tendon weaknesses forever.
  15. davydenko_fan

    davydenko_fan Rookie

    Apr 9, 2008
    definitely will go away soon. just have to ice it and take maybe 2 to 3 days off.
    that should get it better
  16. stician

    stician Semi-Pro

    Apr 19, 2007
    My orthopedic surgeon advised me to rest a period of 2 weeks and wear an elbow strap during the day for 2 weeks. the concept of the strap is subtle amount of tension on the muscle to provide relief for the tendon on the end attached to the elbow so it can heal. I also had pain in my shoulder, more severe compared to the slight soreness in my elbow. My issue wasn't severe upon completion of an arthrogram MRI exam, meaning it was inflamation/fraying and not tears.

    I used the strap that has a hard foam square and place it 1.5" below the elbow near the area of pain. I had a slight pain on the inside of the elbow aka golfer's elbow on conjunction with shoulder pain. The corrective actions were 1) improve the mechanics of my 1st serve with more knee bend, 2) switch to a lower swing weight frame to reduce the amount of deceleration work and 3) various 5-lb wgt and resistance band exercises to strengthen rotator cuff and bicep with physical therapist as my guide.

    I continue this routine on my own now and added cold compression treatment after every match. I don't wear the elbow strap during the day anymore but wear it preventively during play.

    My pains have been kept at bay! And throughout the process went without anti-inflammatory drugs or cortisone treatments.
  17. jasoncho92

    jasoncho92 Professional

    Apr 9, 2007
    It all depends on the person for how long te lasts. Before, i had it so bad that when i picked up a 1 pound binder, my elbow would throb with pain but the next day i was perfectly fine and it didnt come back. Now, from one day of excessive serve and groundstroke shanking, i got tennis elbow and it hasnt gone away for 3 weeks. The pain goes away after playing almost every time, but comes back when i do play and it is usually pretty severe. This is almost definitely due to a lack of rest but im hoping itll eventually heal. :p From what ive read, it seems that unless you are old or have a weak body, just rest is good enough.

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