Does Tecnifibre Multifeel feel like a multi or a solid-core syn gut?

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matchpointread

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Hi there,

Does Multifeel feel firm like a solid-core syn gut or soft like a multi? I hear Alpha Gut 2000 is actually a solid-core (multifilament pseudo-core on packaging), but it definitely feels like a multi. What are your thoughts on Multifeel?

Thanks in advance for your responses!
 
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matchpointread

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robin1982 said:
It feels like an multi.. And it is an multi.
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From TW site description:

  • Composition: Solid Core (985 Composite multifilaments (60% of the total volume of the string) surround one Central Monofilament (20%) and string is immersed in Polyurethane (20%). Features an Anti-Abrasion Coating of Silicone Pyrogene Lubritec)
 
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robin1982

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matchpointread said:
From TW site description:

  • Composition: Solid Core (985 Composite multifilaments (60% of the total volume of the string) surround one Central Monofilament (20%) and string is immersed in Polyurethane (20%). Features an Anti-Abrasion Coating of Silicone Pyrogene Lubritec)
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Like I said, a multi.
 
A

ArliHawk

Hall of Fame
Great cross for a a poly/multi hybrid. Feels more like a multi but good value for the money, which isn’t always the case with Tecnifibre.
 
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robin1982

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matchpointread said:
From TW site description:

  • Composition: Solid Core (985 Composite multifilaments (60% of the total volume of the string) surround one Central Monofilament (20%) and string is immersed in Polyurethane (20%). Features an Anti-Abrasion Coating of Silicone Pyrogene Lubritec)
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985 composite multifilaments, so.. A multi. Cheers
 
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bfroxen

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It feels and plays like a multi. The wear pattern is unique in a full bed. The mains barely wear, and the crosses fray until only the small solid core remains; then that breaks. Unlike other nylon strings I've tried, the strings never lock. It plays very consistently until it breaks, which unfortunately is only 6-10 hours for me. Even with the short life, it's my current string, as my elbow can't handle poly, and I like it a lot more than anything else I've tried.
 
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matchpointread

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bfroxen said:
It feels and plays like a multi. The wear pattern is unique in a full bed. The mains barely wear, and the crosses fray until only the small solid core remains; then that breaks. Unlike other nylon strings I've tried, the strings never lock. It plays very consistently until it breaks, which unfortunately is only 6-10 hours for me. Even with the short life, it's my current string, as my elbow can't handle poly, and I like it a lot more than anything else I've tried.
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Hi bfroxen, thx for the info. Very helpful. How's the spin? What tension are you using?
 
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jered

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I’ve used this string a lot. It’s definitely a multi. It does have better spin and control characteristics than your average multi but it is nowhere near a poly. Really do like this string though.
 
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matchpointread

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robin1982 said:
Yes, its not an monofilament, not a synthetic gut, not natural gut, so.. Its a multi.
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First, thx robin1982 for letting me know about the feel. Much appreciated!

I asked my question originally because how a string is constructed is one of the biggest indicators for me of feel and stress on my arm. By your definition thus far, Prince Lightning XX (Composition: Solid core w/ multifilament wrap) is a multi. To me, it's a solid core syn and plays as such. Nevertheless, there are strings that defy their construction when played in feel/softness like AG2000 as I mentioned. Then there are strings listed by sellers as multis like NXT Duramax, NXT OS, and Tecnifibre MF that have a solid core. I haven't tried any of these, but I've played Prince Premiere Control (black) and while it's listed as a multi and would technically agree, it plays far closer to a solid core IMO.

So to me, in order to decide on strings, defining a multi as a string that has a multifilament core works best. Just saying MF is a multi isn't enough for me, but I understand why TW and you would categorize some solid core strings with multi wraps as multis. I needed more info given it's solid core, and it seems very large majority agree with you both in reports and reviews. I found only one review that says he/she can tell it's a solid core. All in all though, I'm definitely more interested in how it plays than the category it should be placed.
 
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34n

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I had pretty negative experience with Multifeel string. Used 4-5 string jobs with different tensions before dumping it.
It feels on the harder side compared to other multies. The most negative thing is that the outer casing getting crushed in a matter of an hour of play. After that fibers just fly out of the string with every shot util you reach the inner strand. I felt like every 30 minutes I was playing with a different string, it deteriorated so fast. In 3-4 hours the sting breaks.
I can not even imagine it in a hybrid.

As an alternative I would highly recommend Gamma TNT. Thats an excellent nylon string.
 
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robin1982

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matchpointread said:
First, thx robin1982 for letting me know about the feel. Much appreciated!

I asked my question originally because how a string is constructed is one of the biggest indicators for me of feel and stress on my arm. By your definition thus far, Prince Lightning XX (Composition: Solid core w/ multifilament wrap) is a multi. To me, it's a solid core syn and plays as such. Nevertheless, there are strings that defy their construction when played in feel/softness like AG2000 as I mentioned. Then there are strings listed by sellers as multis like NXT Duramax, NXT OS, and Tecnifibre MF that have a solid core. I haven't tried any of these, but I've played Prince Premiere Control (black) and while it's listed as a multi and would technically agree, it plays far closer to a solid core IMO.

So to me, in order to decide on strings, defining a multi as a string that has a multifilament core works best. Just saying MF is a multi isn't enough for me, but I understand why TW and you would categorize some solid core strings with multi wraps as multis. I needed more info given it's solid core, and it seems very large majority agree with you both in reports and reviews. I found only one review that says he/she can tell it's a solid core. All in all though, I'm definitely more interested in how it plays than the category it should be placed.
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I can't tell you a lot about the feel, I only played once with it for about 15 minutes. It felt to me like an multi. I strung hundreds of rackets with it, most of them for recreational players, low level. Normally we had the tecnifibre xr1 ( as a cheaper option for tgv and babolat excel), but tecnifibre sent us one time multifeel instead of xr1 and people like it so we kept multifeel in the assortment.
And I know tecnifibre brand it as an multi with an solid core. Thats why i said its a multi.
 
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fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
I'm rather a fan of syn. guts and it occurred to me that not all syn. guts feel the same.

Forten Sweet is actually soft enough to work as an affordable alternative to many pricey multifibers. Tecnifibre's syn. gut was wonderfully plush stuff that I loved while TW was selling reels of it, but then I switched to Kirschbaum's regular syn. gut for a while. Both of those SG's gave me very acceptable comfort and performance without the steady tension loss that I generally see with multis.

Gosen OG Sheep Micro is a little more firm than several other in the SG family, including Prince Original SG and probably Volkl Classic (middle of the road).

Then there's both Prince SG w/Duraflex and Gamma WearGuard SG - both are too firm for my taste.

Given the broad spectrum of feel and performance as I've found among the options in the world of syn. gut and super cheap tournament nylon, I almost never have a reason to use multi anymore. Occasionally I'll install it when somebody wants a re-string with the same type of stuff that they popped, but that's about it.

...I digress...
 
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matchpointread

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Solid-core syns like Gosen OGSM, TNT2, and Forten Sweet hurt my arm. Of course, it's not as bad as poly, but there's pain after hitting with them. I'm going to stay away from MF as my arm gets better from testing polys. Next test - NXT 17 Natural.
 
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fjcamry

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fuzz nation said:
I'm rather a fan of syn. guts and it occurred to me that not all syn. guts feel the same.

Forten Sweet is actually soft enough to work as an affordable alternative to many pricey multifibers. Tecnifibre's syn. gut was wonderfully plush stuff that I loved while TW was selling reels of it, but then I switched to Kirschbaum's regular syn. gut for a while. Both of those SG's gave me very acceptable comfort and performance without the steady tension loss that I generally see with multis.

Gosen OG Sheep Micro is a little more firm than several other in the SG family, including Prince Original SG and probably Volkl Classic (middle of the road).

Then there's both Prince SG w/Duraflex and Gamma WearGuard SG - both are too firm for my taste.

Given the broad spectrum of feel and performance as I've found among the options in the world of syn. gut and super cheap tournament nylon, I almost never have a reason to use multi anymore. Occasionally I'll install it when somebody wants a re-string with the same type of stuff that they popped, but that's about it.

...I digress...
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I found that kirschbaum syngut multi 1.30 is similar to the regular syngut in performance and comfort but with more touch and feel.

For those that don’t break strings this last 20hrs plus. Those that break strings might need this in the cross for a hybrid as in the mains it will break. For me I use it in the mains for a hybrid and also string in a full pattern for my jr player.

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fuzz nation

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fjcamry said:
I found that kirschbaum syngut multi 1.30 is similar to the regular syngut in performance and comfort but with more touch and feel.

For those that don’t break strings this last 20hrs plus. Those that break strings might need this in the cross for a hybrid as in the mains it will break. For me I use it in the mains for a hybrid and also string in a full pattern for my jr player.

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Thanks - might be worth a try soon.
 
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matchpointread

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fuzz nation said:
I'm rather a fan of syn. guts and it occurred to me that not all syn. guts feel the same.

Forten Sweet is actually soft enough to work as an affordable alternative to many pricey multifibers. Tecnifibre's syn. gut was wonderfully plush stuff that I loved while TW was selling reels of it, but then I switched to Kirschbaum's regular syn. gut for a while. Both of those SG's gave me very acceptable comfort and performance without the steady tension loss that I generally see with multis.

Gosen OG Sheep Micro is a little more firm than several other in the SG family, including Prince Original SG and probably Volkl Classic (middle of the road).

Then there's both Prince SG w/Duraflex and Gamma WearGuard SG - both are too firm for my taste.

Given the broad spectrum of feel and performance as I've found among the options in the world of syn. gut and super cheap tournament nylon, I almost never have a reason to use multi anymore. Occasionally I'll install it when somebody wants a re-string with the same type of stuff that they popped, but that's about it.

...I digress...
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Hey fuzz nation,
Any mono-core syn guts that don't get stuck out of place?
And have you tried Wilson's syn gut? I hit with someone's racquet with it for a minute yesterday, but it was surprisingly soft like a multi. Very powerful (I didn't ask about tension) as well, which isn't what I look for but it may fit someone else's preferance. Another downside for me was the strings being stuck out of place, however, this may not have impacted control nearly as much as I've experienced with other strings. It may be worth a go for you if you haven't yet.
 
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fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
matchpointread said:
Hey fuzz nation,
Any mono-core syn guts that don't get stuck out of place?
And have you tried Wilson's syn gut? I hit with someone's racquet with it for a minute yesterday, but it was surprisingly soft like a multi. Very powerful (I didn't ask about tension) as well, which isn't what I look for but it may fit someone else's preferance. Another downside for me was the strings being stuck out of place, however, this may not have impacted control nearly as much as I've experienced with other strings. It may be worth a go for you if you haven't yet.
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I've strung a little bit lately with Wilson's SG Power 16 ga. (I put it into a couple racquets for other people, not my frames) and I was surprised with how slippery it was when I measured it out off the reel. I'd expect this string to probably move back into place rather easily, at least when it's fresh and still able to slide over itself. I tried Kirschbaum's Premium SG a year or two ago and that string seemed to be relatively slippery, too. I think that when any of those strings get crusty and dirty after some use, they're probably much more prone to getting stuck out of place.

It would probably also be illuminating to know what the tension was for that bed that you sampled.
 
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TennisCJC

Legend
it feels mostly like a multi but it has a slightly crisper feel due to solid core. I rotate between NRG2 and MF for most of last decade. Laser Fibre Supreme is good too.
 
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matchpointread

Rookie
fuzz nation said:
I've strung a little bit lately with Wilson's SG Power 16 ga. (I put it into a couple racquets for other people, not my frames) and I was surprised with how slippery it was when I measured it out off the reel. I'd expect this string to probably move back into place rather easily, at least when it's fresh and still able to slide over itself. I tried Kirschbaum's Premium SG a year or two ago and that string seemed to be relatively slippery, too. I think that when any of those strings get crusty and dirty after some use, they're probably much more prone to getting stuck out of place.

It would probably also be illuminating to know what the tension was for that bed that you sampled.
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55 lbs
 
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TennisCJC

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matchpointread said:
Hi TennisCJC, how do the power levels of MF and LF Supreme compare to NRG2?
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All 3 are very similar. I string multi mains with a very stiff smooth poly cross, so the true power level of the multi is normalize a bit by the poly cross. NRG2 and Supreme might have just a smidge more power but it is a very small difference to me.
 
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