Does Tiger still have any shot at all at Jack's majors record?

He has fallen behind the "same age" pace. Jack won his 15th major at 38. Tiger will be 40 to start next season. Jack won his 16th and 17th majors at 40. Tiger will have to win 1 next year just to be 2 behind at the same point.

Does Tiger have any shot at even tieing the record.
 
He is above Jack in all but major wins though isnt he. So he still has a case as the best ever? Jack had much tougher competion though with Palmer, Player, Watson, which is a much tougher group than Mickelson, Els, Singh.
 

dlk

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Sure he has a chance, albeit slim. He would have to regain that dominance of the past, and even then...
 
I dont think he can ever dominate again, but winning 4 majors in say 10 years (if he can play that long) doesnt require dominance.
 

dlk

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I dont think he can ever dominate again, but winning 4 majors in say 10 years (if he can play that long) doesnt require dominance.

I believe it will take that; he just can't turn it on at the Majors, he's gotta build a rhythm. Especially if he expects to battle with all the young guns, as well as, veteran guys that have been slightly more consistent compared to the last few years got Tiger.
 
I believe it will take that; he just can't turn it on at the Majors, he's gotta build a rhythm. Especially if he expects to battle with all the young guns, as well as, veteran guys that have been slightly more consistent compared to the last few years got Tiger.

OK then I dont think he can do it. I cant see him dominating again, past his physical prime with the combination of age and alot of injuries, and with guys hitting much longer than he did even in his prime.
 

dlk

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OK then I dont think he can do it. I cant see him dominating again, past his physical prime with the combination of age and alot of injuries, and with guys hitting much longer than he did even in his prime.
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How much do you think is mental? I remember David Duval playing awesome & injuries removed him from nearly every weekend, and he never recovered, losing his card.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Tiger is obviously the kind of guy that is only comfortable and able to perform his best when he's in a stable, monogamous marriage. Since his tragic divorce, he just hadn't been the same.
 

stringertom

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As Nadal always has Paris, Tiger will be a factor at Augusta as long as he is healthy. It's the only major he made the cut at in '15 and he finished T17 with almost no play beforehand. He might win there again, even with his broken swing because it's relatively wide open and he knows it so well. He won't win it four more times though.
 
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1% chance he surpasses Jack.

50% chance he bags one more major though.
 
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Tiger is obviously the kind of guy that is only comfortable and able to perform his best when he's in a stable, monogamous marriage. Since his tragic divorce, he just hadn't been the same.

He can't have been in a very happy marriage to do what he did do though.
 
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How much do you think is mental? I remember David Duval playing awesome & injuries removed him from nearly every weekend, and he never recovered, losing his card.

I am sure a lot of it is mental. He is used to dominating so going through a string of poor results and losing confidence, you can work on your shots in practice and remodel your swing, but gaining back the confidence that comes from winning when you are missing cuts and ranked in the 3-digits must be incredibly hard. He would have to win a tournament again for a start, and maybe build some confidence from that. He would also need a long sequence of making all the cuts.

Duval and Ian Baker Finch are two examples of losing confidence past, although neither were ever dominant in the game like Tiger. For them it also happened at a pretty young age (for golf standards). Tiger is at the age many golfers decline but ranked #1 to 200-something in about 2 years is pretty sudden and shocking.
 
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1% chance he surpasses Jack.

50% chance he bags one more major though.

How would you compare him to Jack if he doesn't win another major or only wins 1 more? He beats Jack in everything except major wins and major top 2 finishes. PGA tournament wins, worldwide tournament wins, time at #1 I believe, Player of Year awards.
 
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How would you compare him to Jack if he doesn't win another major or only wins 1 more? He beats Jack in everything except major wins and major top 2 finishes. PGA tournament wins, worldwide tournament wins, time at #1 I believe, Player of Year awards.

He is an amazing golfer and given how the field is more competitive in Woods' day you can make a good case for his GOAThood.

I find it hard to warm to the guy though (always did) and in no way am I inclined to judge him either.
 
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My impression of him was damaged by that he was having an affair with 20 women while married. Then again I imagine many of these celebrities have skeletons hidden in their closets. He is just one of those unlucky enough that they came out.
 
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My impression of him was damaged by that he was having an affair with 20 women while married. Then again I imagine many of these celebrities have skeletons hidden in their closets. He is just one of those unlucky enough that they came out.

On the surface that doesn't reflect well on him, then again his wife could have been impossible.

Truly not my business to moralise on this issue.

Over and out.
 

Bad_Knee

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The thing is with Tiger, if he gets one more it will change everything, he will suddenly feel he is the man again, the media will build him up as the main man again, and that intimidation factor over the field will all of a sudden be there again....Particularly if he were to win it by a large margin.

I think if he gets one more, he'll definitely go on to get the next three. The big question for me is if he can get that first one....At the moment that looks unlikely, but he has many years left.
 
It would be interesting to see if he does at any point get another if it would really lead to the aura being rebuilt or not. Both with himself and the others.
 

Mr.Lob

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Mental and physical issues. Too many good young players, who are only going to get better. Majors take a lot more focus...more pressure. Not gonna happen. 1 or 2 more at best.
 

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How much do you think is mental? I remember David Duval playing awesome & injuries removed him from nearly every weekend, and he never recovered, losing his card.
Exactly. A ton of it. He's not playing against Vijay Singh, Davis Love III, and the other guys who were older than him, feared his game, and were happy to finish top 10 and still make millions. He's playing young guys who hit it further than him and are fearless.

I could see him eeking out 1 more Masters - the only major I think he has a snowball's chance at since the rough isn't long and his wayward driving doesn't get penalized as severely. And that will rely on a lot of guys having bad weeks.
 
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Poisoned Slice

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Jack Nicklaus record is not under threat from Tiger Woods. Tiger's personal life put an end to the Tiger charge. In a sporting sense, it is a shame, because back when he won the US Open in 2008, you were still wondering how many more would he get. He doesn't win any in 2009, but still, you think , he will win in 2010. Then all of a sudden you hear a story about him crashing his car, why this all happened.

Even after all this happened, I'm still thinking he will be back to win more. Then we get the soul destroying apology, etc. His Dad not being there for a shoulder to cry on or a kick up the ass. This couldn't be helped. All these things made sure that Tiger wont get the major record. He has only shown the odd piece of magic in all his returns since the fall out. Damaged beyond repair.

I don't want to count him out completely, but I don't see him winning another major.
 
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