Does watching Federer make you nervous?
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Charlemagne
Hall of Fame
You never know if you'll get Pusherer, ******** or the GOAT. Very nerve racking indeed.
Gazelle
G.O.A.T.
Federer's game has always looked so fragile to me, I expect him to start making 30 consecutive errors anytime. Yet somehow he keeps winning tons of matches 
With Djokovic or Nadal I never have this problem, they usually look rock-solid.
The fact that I'm a Federer fan maybe has to do with this. You'd probably find a few Djokovic/Nadal fans who experience the same when watching their player.
With Djokovic or Nadal I never have this problem, they usually look rock-solid.
The fact that I'm a Federer fan maybe has to do with this. You'd probably find a few Djokovic/Nadal fans who experience the same when watching their player.
smoledman
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Federer's game has always looked so fragile to me, I expect him to start making 30 consecutive errors anytime. Yet somehow he keeps winning tons of matches
With Djokovic or Nadal I never have this problem, they usually look rock-solid.
The fact that I'm a Federer fan maybe has to do with this. You'd probably find a few Djokovic/Nadal fans who experience the same when watching their player.
That's because Djokovic/Nadal are rock-solid players who hardly ever shank the ball. It's the shanks that really get me..
I have this problem too. For example, if Federer makes an average approach to the net against someone like Djokovic or Nadal, then I would just think "Okay. It's all over, Djokovic/Nadal is going to win this point, Federer is going to crumble, and this match will go downhill for Federer..." Being a Federer fan does have something to do with it, perhaps everything to do with it. I see Djokovic and Nadal as rock-solid, invincible gods sometimes. It also catches me by surprise when either of the two make an unforced error or unsuccessful service return.
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This is actually a major problem for me.
In some ways it will be better once he retires as I will no longer have a dog in the fight and will be able to relax.
I always expect his shots to hit the net or go out.
In some ways it will be better once he retires as I will no longer have a dog in the fight and will be able to relax.
I always expect his shots to hit the net or go out.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
This is only from 2010. However , he makes up for all his shanks and UFE with clutch serves.
Before 2010, there was hardly any stress.
Wait for the other big 3 to see how they perform at this age.
Before 2010, there was hardly any stress.
Wait for the other big 3 to see how they perform at this age.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Years ago, no. So used to a high level all the time. Now, definitely moreso....
Gary Duane
Talk Tennis Guru
Fed was always prone to shanks when he played tight on the baseline. It's high risk baseline tennis. It's simply because he hits the ball earlier. Maybe he shanked less, but the mind plays tricks on you when you think back to old matches.
I'm more bothered by the times he drives balls into the net or a foot out, on defense especially.
I'm more bothered by the times he drives balls into the net or a foot out, on defense especially.
Its the baseline for me particularly the backhand. When he first started out winning slams I thought he couldn't miss a backhand. Of course then Nadal came along and I think he totally changed his approach to that wing. My sense is that he is trying to put too much spin into it.
Anyways, what amaze me more is the fact that for someone with such and aggressive and at time risky game, can produce such a consistent result on the tour. To this day it boggles my mind. Where as the rest of the top bigs like Nadal, Djokovic, Murray who plays such rock solid style have more up and down to their careers.
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
Federer will go down in history as the Kobe Bryant of tennis.
Nadal will go down in history as the Michael Jordan of tennis.
Nadal will go down in history as the Michael Jordan of tennis.
The_Mental_Giant
Hall of Fame
By then you will have found a new hero..
The_Mental_Giant
Hall of Fame
Serena williams will go down as the oprah winfrey of tennis
tennis_commentator
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Deleted member 688153
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Remind me again which one of these four Rafa has more of than Federer?
Achievements 17-6-302
Dominance 11/16 slams from 04-07, 237 consec. #1 weeks
Consistency 18/19 GS finals, outright consecutive F, SF, QF records.
Longevity Almost 1000 career wins, consistently in Top 10 for well more than a decade, still #2.
The only one of the four Nadal has any hope at all of matching, let alone exceeding, is achievements, and only the slams (6 WTF and 302 #1 weeks are out of the question).
Comparisons with MJ are unfair, Federer is far more dominant/more achieved.
And Serena is the Venus Williams of tennis.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
It makes me want to go on court.
Was that the answer to your question, OP?
If not: look harder.
Was that the answer to your question, OP?
If not: look harder.
powerangle
Legend
Fed always makes me nervous. The Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde (Federer/Fed-error) thing never ends, especially these days. But that's part of the charm in rooting for him, right?
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
Firstservingman, you know nobody will care about Federer's little stat records if Nadal finishes with more slams (which he almost certainly will).
And Nadal already has a whole decade of slams (10 straight years) aka The Nadal Decade.
Kobe has missed more shots than any man in the history of basketball.
Federer has hit more unforced errors than any man in the history of tennis.
And Nadal already has a whole decade of slams (10 straight years) aka The Nadal Decade.
Kobe has missed more shots than any man in the history of basketball.
Federer has hit more unforced errors than any man in the history of tennis.
The_Mental_Giant
Hall of Fame
Nadal has longevity records too
1+ slams for 10 years in a row
9 slams at one particular event.. record in open era.
most m1000
8 calendar years playing multiple finals
Nadal not only have chances to overcome Fed's slam tally, but slam finals, overall titles... more m1000, time at top 2, etc.
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tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
Also, Michael Jordan would never kiss the feet of his rival.
Federer kisses Nadal's feet virtually every time they step on court together.
That is why Agassi has already anointed Nadal as the greatest-
Federer kisses Nadal's feet virtually every time they step on court together.
That is why Agassi has already anointed Nadal as the greatest-
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
65 % titles and majors on clay alone. Clayboy can never eclipse an all court genius.
The_Mental_Giant
Hall of Fame
well clay is about 35% of the tour, so he has dominated like nobody that 35% of the tour and still has won titles everywhere... 1 AO (3 finals), 2USO (3 finals), 2 Wimbledon (5 finals) , 3 Indian wells (4 finals), 4 miami finals, 3 Canada m1000, 1 cincy,1 shangai/indoor madrid (2 finals), 1 paris final, 2 WTF finals, 1 olympic singles gold in HC.
Clay domination alone would put him top 5 of open era easily..
- 9 RG in a span of 10 years
- 8 MC (9 finals) in a span of 10 years
- 7 Rome (9 finals) in a span of 10 years
- 4 madrid (7 finals) in a span of 10 years
- 8 barcelona in a span of 10 years.
81 clay wins in a row...
shows that his clay domination is second to none... and yet he has won a lot outside that.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Everything you have highlighted is clay. If you are highlighting non clay finals, then include Fed's 5 FO finals as well. Compare his resume with Fed - 5+ finals at all majors, 4+ wins at 3 of the 4. 302 weeks at number 1...
All tennis legend like Borg, Sampras, Fed have domination on multiple surfaces.
Rafa will end his career as a clayboy unfortunately.
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You are deluded if you think all those other records mean nothing.
Also, Nadal will not reach 18 easily.
He isn't winning four more RG's, so that means winning more majors off clay, which is far from guaranteed.
Most plausible scenario is 2 RGs, 1 AO, 1 USO, but this is far from likely.
I think another AO is probably out of the question.
Couple that with the rise of Nishikori, Kyrgios etc. and Rafa is not getting 18 or even 17 realistically.
He will be done within 2-3 years at most, probably less, so that means he will have to win slams at a faster rate than he has been on average for the last 5 years to stand a chance.
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Noleberic123
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but I thought Federer was GOD?
He used to be pretty close.
But these days he is prone to error-fests unfortunately.
Enga
Hall of Fame
I also get a bit anxious watching his matches. Some days his shots are so amazing, some days every time he touches the ball it's nerve wracking.
It's because he's high risk high reward through and through. He is the embodiment of this way of playing.
But if you take enough risks, I guess it start's becoming less of a risk!
It's because he's high risk high reward through and through. He is the embodiment of this way of playing.
But if you take enough risks, I guess it start's becoming less of a risk!
Federer20042006
Banned
Only worried when Federer actually got significantly behind in 2004-2007. I never held my breath during rallies, always considering Federer the favorite, knowing during the match's course, he'd hit many winners out of nowhere.
2008-present it's a chore getting through his matches.
2008-present it's a chore getting through his matches.
I agree. But that's why it's so exciting. You never know what Federer is going to do next. He can have multiple match points and you still worry if he is going to make it or not.
Or he can be down and comes back. He came back from so many matches, it's scary. Also there are a lot of matches that were very tight and close but he came out on top.
There are also many matches where he came back, but then he just missed it by an inch. Like W 08, or W 14.
All that makes him the most exciting to watch next to him producing crazy shots.
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
Nadal has a great chance at 3 more French Opens (let's not forget, Djokovic was closer in 2013 than 2014), and I think Nadal has a huge chance at this year's AO.
One thing we know for sure, Federer won't stand in Nadal's way.
Federer will only help, by giving Nadal easy semis.
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It won't happen, I'd bet good money on it, especially if Fed manages 18.
PrinceMoron
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You never know..., you don't say.
And how anyone can think ND has clean strokes when a bit of wind means he can't cope with Dr Ivo. Where was this clean hitting there?
PrinceMoron
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More repeated diatribes than anyone in the history of this forum.
furryballs
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tennis_commentator
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Double Career Grand Slam and slam title #15.
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