Donnay XeneCore series racquet

Erik Lee

New User
Just want to create this forum and try to get more information about Donnay’s racquets

I just demo a Pro One HexaCore 97 (16x19), the lastest one in 2018 . I will keep posting how it really feel while hitting.

Folks, tell us about what you use and any ideas about current model of donnay racquet.
 
I use a Donnay Hexacore formula 100. Feels smoother than butter, yet it holds its own against 90 mph+ serves. The company currently functions as basically a market for arm friendly alternatives to your favorite rackets. I don’t know how bad the quality control problems are, but they can’t be something that a little modification can’t fix. It’s quite nice how they’re able to create ultra-comfortable flexy frames with such stability. I haven’t played with any pro ones, just the x-dual, and allwood and a couple formulas.
 

MMQB14

Rookie
I have used the re-launched Donnay racquets for some years now after my shoulder surgery (SLAP tear). Back to playing club-level competitive tennis with my Donnay Pro One TriCores (singles on a good day) and my Formula 100s Dualcore (singles on a lazy day, sometimes doubles).

I have tried the newer Pentacores (both Pro One and Formula) but they just seem not as "plush" to me compared to the older TriCores. Respectively more string sensitive - I just played my Penta Pro One with VS gut crossed with Monogut Zyex as I was a bit sore after long week-end session. That seemed to work no problem. When I string it with a poly like Yonex PTP at lower tension (46 lbs) it still seems a bit harsh.

What are your string set-ups for your Penta/HexaCore racquets?
 

Knife

Professional
I use a Donnay Hexacore formula 100. Feels smoother than butter, yet it holds its own against 90 mph+ serves. The company currently functions as basically a market for arm friendly alternatives to your favorite rackets. I don’t know how bad the quality control problems are, but they can’t be something that a little modification can’t fix. It’s quite nice how they’re able to create ultra-comfortable flexy frames with such stability. I haven’t played with any pro ones, just the x-dual, and allwood and a couple formulas.

I'm intrigued by the Allwood, how does it compare to the Formula 100? I have two Pro One Tricores, they hit great but are (surprisingly) harsh on the arm. I had to go back to my trusted PK Q-tours, I'd be thrilled to try that flexy Allwood though...
 
The Allwood is a very interesting racket. Big headsize, but the beam width is thin so it’s still very maneuverable. It’s the softest racket I’ve hit with, and I couldn’t feel any shock to the arm even with the somewhat dead poly from the demo. On returns the flex naturally means that it doesn’t have a whole lot of heft to it, but it’s still moderately stable. Serves quite well. The ball works well with the flex to get some good pace and action. The best parts of this racket for me were the backhand slice (super-controlled bite) and the touch. Up at net there were plenty of times where normally I would make a volley/overhead that leaves the point neutral, but this thing destroyed with clean touch and feel. The main area that it lacked a little for me was the forehand. Maybe the super headlightness of it prevented it from having the same punishing nature of the formula. Not sure how it would react to some lead in the hoop, but it might be helpful. It’s more oriented to controlled feel rather than power, but anybody with good technique should be able to generate ample pace with it.
 
The allwood has a little more pop on the serves, and a better slice than the formula. The touch is also better, but it’s also pretty good on the formula. What the allwood lacks in comparison is the raw authority on the forehand side that gives the formula it’s focussed aggression vibe, although again, some lead in the hoop could give the allwood more stable plow-through.
 

Knife

Professional
Thanks for your thoughts on these frames! (y) I suppose that the heftier SW of the Formula gives you that bit more pop than the Allwood on your FH side. I'm looking more into comfort anyway, and I also prefer thinner, straight beams. Will probably acquire the Alwood soon! :)
 

ryanholi0

Rookie
I saw a pic of them being 60RA strung on a Yonex Protec 8.
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Aus_Hack

New User
Hi all,

First time poster here from Australia. I have recently purchased some Donnay Formula 100 racquets from the Donnay USA website. Funny story: I found they had a promo Buy One Get One (BOGO) on their previous penta core line, so I bit the bullet and ordered 2 x pentacore Formula 100s. They were shipped directly from their factory in China it would seem, but interestingly the print decals suggested they were hexa core racquets. The decals/stickers weren't actually the same as what is shown for their hexa core model, so wasn't sure if there was some sort of misprint.

Anyway, I didn't bother returning them as it looked like I'd scored an upgrade! Turns out these actually appear to be a limited edition model - there is a Formula Hexacore 100 SOFT Ltd Ed. version on their website (somewhat hidden as in there doesn't appear to be any direct links on their webpages); the site text says these are pre-production versions that have a lower RA than the standard Hexacore Formula 100. The website has an RA of 45 - sticker on the racquet says 47, so I'm guessing the RA numbers on the website are strung values (think I saw some other threads trying to confirm this).

Long story short is I came back to the sport after a long absence and presently hit with Prince Phantom Pro 100s, because I was getting TE and GE from newer frames and poly. While my game in my younger days was originally serve-volley, my present condition of falling apart meant I had to change that somewhat. Love the feel of the Prince PP100 and have been experimenting with strings, but what can I say I'm a sucker for a sale. I've strung one up but am yet to have a hit with it.

Will post my experience after I have a bash. Will also go through the list of racquets I've tried in getting here.

Cheers
 

Aus_Hack

New User
Well, just got back from my first hit with the Donnay HexaCore Formula 100 Soft Ltd Ed. Before I go further, I should preface that I will reserve my full judgement for a few days. The last time I hit with a racquet that seemed fantastic I pulled trigger and bought a couple, only to have the dreaded TE/GE turn up a few days later! The beginning of my racquet/string journey (and financial suffering....)

So as mentioned my present racquet is the Phantom Pro 100 (I have two). I really enjoy the feel of the PP100 from a comfort perspective (advertised with a stiffness rating of 54 RA), and it generally has enough pop for me but doesn't have the put-away power without effort (at least in my hands). Over the course of a match I feel this works against me now (you know the slower, fatter me now rather than the lithe gazelle of a tennis player I used to be in my younger days). My stamina is decidedly lower and hence I (literally) run out of puff. Some more free power to finish points quicker was what I was seeking, as my serve-volley game was failing miserably. Tried changing my game, but as I mentioned when I read some reviews of the Donnay HexaCore Formula 100 and saw the Buy One Get One for the Pentacore version I shot from the hip again! I tried some different string setups in my PPP100:

Tecnifibre X-One Biphase 17 nat @ 52
Gamma TNT2 17 @ 52
Head Synthetic Gut PPS 17 black @ 52
Volkl Cyclone Tour 18 Anthracite M @52 / Babolat Addiction 17 X @ 54
Volkl Cyclone Tour 16 Red M @ 50 / Wilson NXT 16 nat X @ 53
Head RIP Control 17 natural @ 52

- X-One Biphase was a nice soft string, but I could only generate a little spin and I wore through it faster than any string in my life (maybe 5 hours of hitting). Historically, I've never broken a string.
- Didn't like the Gamma at all. Cut it out as it felt much stiffer than the numbers suggested. Maybe I should have seen whether it would soften up, but c'est la vie.
- Head Synthetic Gut PPS 17 was not as plush/comfortable as I would have liked, but had no problems with the arms and reasonable spin. Kept it as my main string in the racquet until I decided to try Volkl.
- Didn't realise Volkl Cyclone Tour was shaped until I got it. Tried 2 gauges. 16G was better control for me, but after hitting for a while my TE started murmuring. The 17G setup triggered the weird TB (tennis bicep). Cleverly cut out my Head SG PPS to put this 18G combo in THE DAY BEFORE A TOURNAMENT. With age does not always come wisdom. Played 3 games and put it back in the bag, then had to use the Volkl 16/Wilson NXT 16 setup. That was bearable but by day 2 it went a little pear-shaped. The Volkl 16 is chewing up that NXT too - it's about to go shortly. I cut out the 18G to put in the RIP Control.
- Head RIP Control 17 was great in some of my other racquets, but I felt the tension was too low for this frame. Could barely hit a forehand in and struggled to feel the ball leave the racquet face. Maybe this is the "mushy" feeling I've seen people refer to in these threads? If I were to use this string again in this frame it would probably be around 55 lbs (recommended tension for the PPP100 is 50 +/- 5).

Anyway, on to the Donnay. I recently acquired (bought) a constant pull stringing machine (WISE 2086 Tension head v14 - a very good and economical way to get constant pull) and used it to string up the HexaCore Formula 100 Soft with a fb of Head Lynx 17 red @ 45 lbs. Now I've mentioned in another thread it was this string, combined with the Head Graphene Touch Speed MP racquet, that originally gave me my TE/GE. However, I bought a reel of the stuff when I bought these Head racquets (as alluded to earlier in this post - tada!) and except for the horrible outcome for my arms I enjoyed this string. So, I figured this would be a great way to test the theory of the XeneCore being super arm-friendly, even with poly (nasty, nasty poly - I'm starting to think all poly is just nasty). I also used a white Tourna Pete Sampras dampener, and have a full Karakal Super PU replacement grip over the top (I buy 4 3/8 and then add this grip).

Well, except for the Tecnifibre, Gamma and Head SG PPS, I strung all the rest myself. I am confident in saying I'm no expert at stringing, but I'm certainly learning fast. Thank you internet - back in the day there would be no way I could learn from so many experienced people so easily. Having said that, I wasn't 100% happy with the string job on the Donnay (just quickly - does anyone else find knots for poly total bulls**t?) but it was good enough for a bash.

The frame looks similar to the power racquets with a thicker throat (Pure Drive, Pure Aero, Head Extreme etc) and wider beam at 3 & 9 o'clock. VERY different to my PPP100s. Balance point is also very different (closer to neutral?) compared to my HL PPP100; website says 320mm unstrung (not sure what that equates to strung as I don't have a balance beam yet). All as expected though, as I was looking for more free power.

Well, after hitting for about 2 hours (1 x singles and 1 x doubles game) and strung with a low tension poly I can state the following (but refer to my caveat at the beginning of this thread):
- no part of my arms hurt;
- there is definitely more free power, and ground strokes seem a little heavier with a little less effort;
- I was getting some excellent topspin; I found it was bringing the ball down sharper than my PPP100 (that frame has a 16 x 18 pattern);
- Maneuvering to quickly volley was harder to execute for me (I'm assuming due to the difference in balance point from my normal racquet);
- my serve was getting more swing, but still the area for most improvement in my game - triple doubles are great in basketball, but are much less impressive in tennis. To be fair it was the 1st time I hit with it, being a totally different racquet and tension (that's my story). When hit properly my flat serve seemed to have more pop;
- I felt pretty much no vibration, even when bouncing the ball a couple of times with the hoop of the frame as I do when going to the service line. I do this often with my PPP100, and if I hold the throat and not the handle I can feel significant vibration in that frame, even though at the handle I don't feel it at all. The feel of the frame is different to the PPP100, but it is still very comfortable (even with the nasty poly).

Honestly, I really enjoyed hitting with it. I tried Babolat once, but while it had good power I found the racquet too stiff and uncomfortable (this was before TE). I think their racquets have probably only gotten stiffer since then (I think there are maybe 1 or 2 exceptions in their current line up that are near an RA of 65). I really enjoyed the Head Graphene Touch Speed MP with more free power, but even with the RIP Control 17 multi I get TE soreness (and its RA is 64 I think). I think I will string up the other HexaCore Formula 100 Soft with the Lynx again at a slightly higher tension (maybe 48) to see how that performs on the arm. I am also looking forward to having another hit maybe on the weekend. For context of my ability, I don't have a USTA rating or UTR rating yet, but I hit with people who have a UTR around 7 - 9 in singles and doubles. I'm competitive with them, but my physical conditioning lets me down (a few injuries have accumulated over the years, as has my waistline lol). I don't let it stop me playing, although sometimes it slows me down from playing more frequently. So definitely amateur status, but I enjoy being competitive and hitting winners when I can!

Hope this helps some others if they are considering a new frame. As I'm in Australia, it doesn't look like they run an international demo program (not anymore anyway - though I thought they did at one point) but if you're in the USA I'd suggest at least trying their $1 demo program. I also suggest you check out the review by Tennisnerd on his site and on YouTube. Of note is his review is of the standard HexaCore Formula 100, whereas my racquet is the HexaCore Formula 100 Soft Ltd Ed (as mentioned in my previous post). From other posts, it sounds like there is a checkered history with customer service/management etc. but if you are having some genuine TE/GE issues that is stopping you from playing, I'd say persevere with going through getting a demo - it might be the difference between you having to constantly (or worse permanently) stop playing, or getting the chance to enjoy the sport you love for longer! Again, refer to the caveat at the beginning of the post :)

Cheers
 

SVP

Semi-Pro
Well, just got back from my first hit with the Donnay HexaCore Formula 100 Soft Ltd Ed. Before I go further, I should preface that I will reserve my full judgement for a few days. The last time I hit with a racquet that seemed fantastic I pulled trigger and bought a couple, only to have the dreaded TE/GE turn up a few days later! The beginning of my racquet/string journey (and financial suffering....)

So as mentioned my present racquet is the Phantom Pro 100 (I have two). I really enjoy the feel of the PP100 from a comfort perspective (advertised with a stiffness rating of 54 RA), and it generally has enough pop for me but doesn't have the put-away power without effort (at least in my hands). Over the course of a match I feel this works against me now (you know the slower, fatter me now rather than the lithe gazelle of a tennis player I used to be in my younger days). My stamina is decidedly lower and hence I (literally) run out of puff. Some more free power to finish points quicker was what I was seeking, as my serve-volley game was failing miserably. Tried changing my game, but as I mentioned when I read some reviews of the Donnay HexaCore Formula 100 and saw the Buy One Get One for the Pentacore version I shot from the hip again! I tried some different string setups in my PPP100:

Tecnifibre X-One Biphase 17 nat @ 52
Gamma TNT2 17 @ 52
Head Synthetic Gut PPS 17 black @ 52
Volkl Cyclone Tour 18 Anthracite M @52 / Babolat Addiction 17 X @ 54
Volkl Cyclone Tour 16 Red M @ 50 / Wilson NXT 16 nat X @ 53
Head RIP Control 17 natural @ 52

- X-One Biphase was a nice soft string, but I could only generate a little spin and I wore through it faster than any string in my life (maybe 5 hours of hitting). Historically, I've never broken a string.
- Didn't like the Gamma at all. Cut it out as it felt much stiffer than the numbers suggested. Maybe I should have seen whether it would soften up, but c'est la vie.
- Head Synthetic Gut PPS 17 was not as plush/comfortable as I would have liked, but had no problems with the arms and reasonable spin. Kept it as my main string in the racquet until I decided to try Volkl.
- Didn't realise Volkl Cyclone Tour was shaped until I got it. Tried 2 gauges. 16G was better control for me, but after hitting for a while my TE started murmuring. The 17G setup triggered the weird TB (tennis bicep). Cleverly cut out my Head SG PPS to put this 18G combo in THE DAY BEFORE A TOURNAMENT. With age does not always come wisdom. Played 3 games and put it back in the bag, then had to use the Volkl 16/Wilson NXT 16 setup. That was bearable but by day 2 it went a little pear-shaped. The Volkl 16 is chewing up that NXT too - it's about to go shortly. I cut out the 18G to put in the RIP Control.
- Head RIP Control 17 was great in some of my other racquets, but I felt the tension was too low for this frame. Could barely hit a forehand in and struggled to feel the ball leave the racquet face. Maybe this is the "mushy" feeling I've seen people refer to in these threads? If I were to use this string again in this frame it would probably be around 55 lbs (recommended tension for the PPP100 is 50 +/- 5).

Anyway, on to the Donnay. I recently acquired (bought) a constant pull stringing machine (WISE 2086 Tension head v14 - a very good and economical way to get constant pull) and used it to string up the HexaCore Formula 100 Soft with a fb of Head Lynx 17 red @ 45 lbs. Now I've mentioned in another thread it was this string, combined with the Head Graphene Touch Speed MP racquet, that originally gave me my TE/GE. However, I bought a reel of the stuff when I bought these Head racquets (as alluded to earlier in this post - tada!) and except for the horrible outcome for my arms I enjoyed this string. So, I figured this would be a great way to test the theory of the XeneCore being super arm-friendly, even with poly (nasty, nasty poly - I'm starting to think all poly is just nasty). I also used a white Tourna Pete Sampras dampener, and have a full Karakal Super PU replacement grip over the top (I buy 4 3/8 and then add this grip).

Well, except for the Tecnifibre, Gamma and Head SG PPS, I strung all the rest myself. I am confident in saying I'm no expert at stringing, but I'm certainly learning fast. Thank you internet - back in the day there would be no way I could learn from so many experienced people so easily. Having said that, I wasn't 100% happy with the string job on the Donnay (just quickly - does anyone else find knots for poly total bulls**t?) but it was good enough for a bash.

The frame looks similar to the power racquets with a thicker throat (Pure Drive, Pure Aero, Head Extreme etc) and wider beam at 3 & 9 o'clock. VERY different to my PPP100s. Balance point is also very different (closer to neutral?) compared to my HL PPP100; website says 320mm unstrung (not sure what that equates to strung as I don't have a balance beam yet). All as expected though, as I was looking for more free power.

Well, after hitting for about 2 hours (1 x singles and 1 x doubles game) and strung with a low tension poly I can state the following (but refer to my caveat at the beginning of this thread):
- no part of my arms hurt;
- there is definitely more free power, and ground strokes seem a little heavier with a little less effort;
- I was getting some excellent topspin; I found it was bringing the ball down sharper than my PPP100 (that frame has a 16 x 18 pattern);
- Maneuvering to quickly volley was harder to execute for me (I'm assuming due to the difference in balance point from my normal racquet);
- my serve was getting more swing, but still the area for most improvement in my game - triple doubles are great in basketball, but are much less impressive in tennis. To be fair it was the 1st time I hit with it, being a totally different racquet and tension (that's my story). When hit properly my flat serve seemed to have more pop;
- I felt pretty much no vibration, even when bouncing the ball a couple of times with the hoop of the frame as I do when going to the service line. I do this often with my PPP100, and if I hold the throat and not the handle I can feel significant vibration in that frame, even though at the handle I don't feel it at all. The feel of the frame is different to the PPP100, but it is still very comfortable (even with the nasty poly).

Honestly, I really enjoyed hitting with it. I tried Babolat once, but while it had good power I found the racquet too stiff and uncomfortable (this was before TE). I think their racquets have probably only gotten stiffer since then (I think there are maybe 1 or 2 exceptions in their current line up that are near an RA of 65). I really enjoyed the Head Graphene Touch Speed MP with more free power, but even with the RIP Control 17 multi I get TE soreness (and its RA is 64 I think). I think I will string up the other HexaCore Formula 100 Soft with the Lynx again at a slightly higher tension (maybe 48) to see how that performs on the arm. I am also looking forward to having another hit maybe on the weekend. For context of my ability, I don't have a USTA rating or UTR rating yet, but I hit with people who have a UTR around 7 - 9 in singles and doubles. I'm competitive with them, but my physical conditioning lets me down (a few injuries have accumulated over the years, as has my waistline lol). I don't let it stop me playing, although sometimes it slows me down from playing more frequently. So definitely amateur status, but I enjoy being competitive and hitting winners when I can!

Hope this helps some others if they are considering a new frame. As I'm in Australia, it doesn't look like they run an international demo program (not anymore anyway - though I thought they did at one point) but if you're in the USA I'd suggest at least trying their $1 demo program. I also suggest you check out the review by Tennisnerd on his site and on YouTube. Of note is his review is of the standard HexaCore Formula 100, whereas my racquet is the HexaCore Formula 100 Soft Ltd Ed (as mentioned in my previous post). From other posts, it sounds like there is a checkered history with customer service/management etc. but if you are having some genuine TE/GE issues that is stopping you from playing, I'd say persevere with going through getting a demo - it might be the difference between you having to constantly (or worse permanently) stop playing, or getting the chance to enjoy the sport you love for longer! Again, refer to the caveat at the beginning of the post :)

Cheers
Thanks for the thorough review. Sounds like it’s the perfect racquet for you. I’m waiting for my $1 demo. Can’t wait to try it out.
 

Joebluz

New User
I own and play an X-Dark Red 94 and X-Blue 94. I really like the feel and control of both. I wanted to try a newer Donnay version so I took advantage of the buy one get one free offer and purchased 2 Pro 1 Penta 18x20 racquets. I'll report back at a later date and compare my current Donnay racquets to the newer version.
 

Masseslice

New User
I own and play an X-Dark Red 94 and X-Blue 94. I really like the feel and control of both. I wanted to try a newer Donnay version so I took advantage of the buy one get one free offer and purchased 2 Pro 1 Penta 18x20 racquets. I'll report back at a later date and compare my current Donnay racquets to the newer version.
Can't wait to hear from you! Curious to hear your thoughts.
 
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