Don't get it: Big 3

Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
I don't get the issue here. Honestly, what is the problem?

Djoker: Best accomplishments. He earned it all. Yes, many of us don't like it, but whatever. It is what it is. He deserves it. He will end up on top. Accepr it. It is awesome. Even if I don't like him. Enjoy it, it is incredible stuff.

Fed: man did he entertain us and do some incredibly awesome tennis. We love him and he rocked the tennis world like never before. Will forever bee remembered as the guy. But so what if he ends up second or third. He gave us some great drama and some great tennis that will never be seen again.

Rafa: my goodness, the guy gave us insane fight and great fun. The guy might end up second or third but will never be forgotten for the way he played tennis and lived off court. Unbelievable stuff.

Big 3: we will never see anything like then again. Ngbs suck so bad. Enjoy the finish. They don't deserve the crap we say. They deserves the celebration of three greatest tennis ever.

Who the f cares, they rocked our world and I love them all. The three greatest no matter who you like the most. They gave it their all.

 

beltsman

Legend
I don't get the issue here. Honestly, what is the problem?

Djoker: Best accomplishments. He earned it all. Yes, many of us don't like it, but whatever. It is what it is. He deserves it. He will end up on top. Accepr it. It is awesome. Even if I don't like him. Enjoy it, it is incredible stuff.

Fed: man did he entertain us and do some incredibly awesome tennis. We love him and he rocked the tennis world like never before. Will forever bee remembered as the guy. But so what if he ends up second or third. He gave us some great drama and some great tennis that will never be seen again.

Rafa: my goodness, the guy gave us insane fight and great fun. The guy might end up second or third but will never be forgotten for the way he played tennis and lived off court. Unbelievable stuff.

Big 3: we will never see anything like then again. Ngbs suck so bad. Enjoy the finish. They don't deserve the crap we say. They deserves the celebration of three greatest tennis ever.

Who the f cares, they rocked our world and I love them all. The three greatest no matter who you like the most. They gave it their all.

It's pretty much all Djokovic trolls crawling out at this point. Fed, Nadal, and their respective fans matured years ago..
 

Sudacafan

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't get the issue here. Honestly, what is the problem?

Djoker: Best accomplishments. He earned it all. Yes, many of us don't like it, but whatever. It is what it is. He deserves it. He will end up on top. Accepr it. It is awesome. Even if I don't like him. Enjoy it, it is incredible stuff.

Fed: man did he entertain us and do some incredibly awesome tennis. We love him and he rocked the tennis world like never before. Will forever bee remembered as the guy. But so what if he ends up second or third. He gave us some great drama and some great tennis that will never be seen again.

Rafa: my goodness, the guy gave us insane fight and great fun. The guy might end up second or third but will never be forgotten for the way he played tennis and lived off court. Unbelievable stuff.

Big 3: we will never see anything like then again. Ngbs suck so bad. Enjoy the finish. They don't deserve the crap we say. They deserves the celebration of three greatest tennis ever.

Who the f cares, they rocked our world and I love them all. The three greatest no matter who you like the most. They gave it their all.

I think you needed to say this.
Do you feel better now? I don’t.
 
In terms of pure overall ability each of the 3 are in same ball park.

The battle of numbers is a question of who managed his mind and body better and who was willing to accept and improve.

Right now it's Djokovic by a country mile.


Federer probably got satisfied with himself around 2005, and didn't make any changes, Yesterday I read a Brad Gilbert quote from 2012 about how Federer was playing with a racquet technology of 2002 in 2012, a racquet he will never ever suggest even a recreational player to buy.

Meanwhile, Nadal kept pushing his body and though he has proven to still be amazing physically, it seems Djokovic has edged him.


Djokovic kept learning, kept finding ways, kept acknowledging his limitations and kept finding ways to overcome them. He mastered the sport and his mind. He has made the necessary sacrifices to keep himself in the race.

Djokovic is the " Deserving " Man, a better and more suitable man for the throne of greatest ever of the three.
 

daphne

Hall of Fame
I don't get the issue here. Honestly, what is the problem?

Djoker: Best accomplishments. He earned it all. Yes, many of us don't like it, but whatever. It is what it is. He deserves it. He will end up on top. Accepr it. It is awesome. Even if I don't like him. Enjoy it, it is incredible stuff.

Fed: man did he entertain us and do some incredibly awesome tennis. We love him and he rocked the tennis world like never before. Will forever bee remembered as the guy. But so what if he ends up second or third. He gave us some great drama and some great tennis that will never be seen again.

Rafa: my goodness, the guy gave us insane fight and great fun. The guy might end up second or third but will never be forgotten for the way he played tennis and lived off court. Unbelievable stuff.

Big 3: we will never see anything like then again. Ngbs suck so bad. Enjoy the finish. They don't deserve the crap we say. They deserves the celebration of three greatest tennis ever.

Who the f cares, they rocked our world and I love them all. The three greatest no matter who you like the most. They gave it their all.

 

El_Yotamo

Hall of Fame
Federer probably got satisfied with himself around 2005, and didn't make any changes, Yesterday I read a Brad Gilbert quote from 2012 about how Federer was playing with a racquet technology of 2002 in 2012, a racquet he will never ever suggest even a recreational player to buy.
There're a lot of inaccuracies here. First things first, "technology" is a bunch of BS in terms of modern racquets. Murray won all his slams with a racquet from 1994, Nadal is still playing with a racquet from 2004, Djokovic's racquet(s) since '09 have the "technology" of around '06-'08, and there's countless more examples. Pros typically use what they grew up on or what they went pro with, and racquet technology has been more or less stagnant since the advent of graphite (and especially since the introduction of poly strings) so it is of no consequence that a pro would be using a frame from ten (or twenty or more) years prior.

Now, about Federer's racquet/making of changes: the thing which actually was troublesome was the small headsize. However, Federer switched to a larger headsize in 2014 and also changed his game a fair bit as a result. He made even more changes in his 2017 comeback. Was it too little too late? Probably yes, because after 2010 he's won a grand total of 4 slams with 3 of those in '17-'18 just before his body/mind started to betray him. It's possible that if he had made changes earlier he would've had better results. Who's to say though? Definitely not me in any case, I'm a Rafa fan :p

Btw about the last sentence, any sane person would typically not recommend recreational players to play with the same racquets that pros use. Pros use heavy racquets, typically with a smaller headsize than what most recs use. Not something any person can pick up and ay effectively with.
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
It’s very telling to read Rafa and Roger fans comments on this thread and those of Novak fans. The most obnoxious fan base in the history of tennis. No class whatsoever. The no 1 player in the world that nobody likes, that will be his legacy.
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
You're absolutely right. If I had to get life threatening surgery, I wouldn't want the #1 surgeon, I'd pick the most liked one. Especially if he can make extremely good looking stitches effortlessly.
Haha, you really put yourself in a corner here :D
If the big3 were surgeons, I would definitely pick Federer to do the operation. I would certainly not pick world no. 1 surgeon, who in a fit of rage, might pull my heart and intestines out of my body, and trample them on the floor, like he usually does with his rackets :D
 
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You're absolutely right. If I had to get life threatening surgery, I wouldn't want the #1 surgeon, I'd pick the most liked one. Especially if he can make extremely good looking stitches effortlessly.
Agree with this. However, I'd still be nervous on account of most of #2 and downwards being a significant step down in quality from previous generations of surgeons, especially given the advances in medical practices. It would also be nice to not be in a #1 or bust situation if my life was on the line, since I'd imagine he'd be rather in demand.

EDIT: I understand your '#1' means historically, but that in and of itself lends to consideration of peak level and timing.
 

Sudacafan

Talk Tennis Guru
It's pretty much all Djokovic trolls crawling out at this point. Fed, Nadal, and their respective fans matured years ago..
When you grow up, or come of age, you automatically turn into a Federer and Nadal fan. Being a Djokovic fan is a symptom of immaturity and of interrupted cognitive development, as it was recently demonstrated by reputed psychiatric magazines.
 
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Rosstour

Legend
You're absolutely right. If I had to get life threatening surgery, I wouldn't want the #1 surgeon, I'd pick the most liked one. Especially if he can make extremely good looking stitches effortlessly.
I would go with a vaccinated surgeon who believes in surgery and not healing water pyramid wolfman bullsh1t
 

Sudacafan

Talk Tennis Guru
It’s very telling to read Rafa and Roger fans comments on this thread and those of Novak fans. The most obnoxious fan base in the history of tennis. No class whatsoever. The no 1 player in the world that nobody likes, that will be his legacy.
Being a Federer fan automatically makes me a fair and reasonable person, with very sound judgmental patterns.
It’s not a coincidence that I have become a Federer fan.
Please don’t mistake me with Nadal fans, who are defective as well.
 
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vex

Hall of Fame
It's pretty much all Djokovic trolls crawling out at this point. Fed, Nadal, and their respective fans matured years ago..
More like Fed/Nadal fans bailed on the site and Djoker fans are starting to act like Fed fans acted for years
 

vex

Hall of Fame
It’s very telling to read Rafa and Roger fans comments on this thread and those of Novak fans. The most obnoxious fan base in the history of tennis. No class whatsoever. The no 1 player in the world that nobody likes, that will be his legacy.
Lol - whines about fans being obnoxious; immediately spouts the same old tired fan attack in the very next sentence.
CLASSIC

Djoker’s literally getting MOBBED by fans and athletes at the Olympics right now. “nObOdY LiKeS HiM!!!!”
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
Being a Federer fan automatically makes me a fair and reasonable person, with very sound judgmental patterns.
It’s not a coincidence that I have become a Federer fan.
Please don’t mistake me with Nadal fans, who are defective as well.
I understand what you’re saying but is there any reason why is this a reply to my post?
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
I don't get the issue here. Honestly, what is the problem?

Djoker: Best accomplishments. He earned it all. Yes, many of us don't like it, but whatever. It is what it is. He deserves it. He will end up on top. Accepr it. It is awesome. Even if I don't like him. Enjoy it, it is incredible stuff.

Fed: man did he entertain us and do some incredibly awesome tennis. We love him and he rocked the tennis world like never before. Will forever bee remembered as the guy. But so what if he ends up second or third. He gave us some great drama and some great tennis that will never be seen again.

Rafa: my goodness, the guy gave us insane fight and great fun. The guy might end up second or third but will never be forgotten for the way he played tennis and lived off court. Unbelievable stuff.

Big 3: we will never see anything like then again. Ngbs suck so bad. Enjoy the finish. They don't deserve the crap we say. They deserves the celebration of three greatest tennis ever.

Who the f cares, they rocked our world and I love them all. The three greatest no matter who you like the most. They gave it their all.

It's not "awesome" that Novak Djokovic will likely finish on top. Why should I have to think that lol?
 

The Fedfather

Hall of Fame
The problem is with trying to impose an opinion on others, especially as it's done in a mocking condescending manner. If I view Federer as the GOAT, it's not going to suddenly change after one tournament as Djokovic won the 20th Slam. That's just not how it works.
The same way people who didn't believe Federer was the GOAT with the Slam record, and were shoved the x>y>z in their face.

It's hard to be chill and happy when dealing with provocation.
 
I don't get the issue here. Honestly, what is the problem?

Djoker: Best accomplishments. He earned it all. Yes, many of us don't like it, but whatever. It is what it is. He deserves it. He will end up on top. Accepr it. It is awesome. Even if I don't like him. Enjoy it, it is incredible stuff.

Fed: man did he entertain us and do some incredibly awesome tennis. We love him and he rocked the tennis world like never before. Will forever bee remembered as the guy. But so what if he ends up second or third. He gave us some great drama and some great tennis that will never be seen again.

Rafa: my goodness, the guy gave us insane fight and great fun. The guy might end up second or third but will never be forgotten for the way he played tennis and lived off court. Unbelievable stuff.

Big 3: we will never see anything like then again. Ngbs suck so bad. Enjoy the finish. They don't deserve the crap we say. They deserves the celebration of three greatest tennis ever.

Who the f cares, they rocked our world and I love them all. The three greatest no matter who you like the most. They gave it their all.

Nice write-up as usual.
 
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