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Mobile phone detection cameras set to roll out across Australia, here’s everything you need to know

Joshua Dowling
NATIONAL MOTORING EDITOR

World-first technology to catch drivers using phones illegally is being introduced in NSW ahead of the rest of the country. Here are the mobile phone fines in each state.

Drivers using a mobile phone illegally have a greater chance of getting caught from today, as NSW becomes the first place in the world to introduce mobile phone detection cameras – and other Australian states are poised to follow.

A mix of 10 fixed and portable mobile phone detection cameras will be installed in NSW from today (1 December 2019); another 35 are planned over the next four years.

During a three-month trial at two locations in metropolitan Sydney (Anzac Parade and the M4 Motorway), 100,000 drivers were detected using a mobile phone illegally among the 8.3 million vehicles caught on camera, the equivalent of more than $34 million in fines.

Sophisticated software automatically detects if a driver is handling a phone. Filtered images are then checked by a human eye by NSW authorities before a fine is issued. Discarded images are deleted from digital files within an hour.

NSW will send warning letters – but no fine – for the first three months, before penalties of $344 and five demerit points are issued from 1 March 2020. In school zones the fine increases to $457 and during double demerits periods 10 points are issued.

The technology was invented by a University of Melbourne engineering graduate after a cyclist friend was killed in late 2013 by a driver suspected of being on a mobile phone.

“After my friend James was killed by a distracted and impaired driver I filled the walls of my office with ideas on how technology could have prevented this,” the inventor of mobile phone detection cameras, Alexander Jannink, told CarAdvice.

“At the time, driver distraction wasn’t recognised as a really serious or emerging road safety issue, but it quickly became apparent that mobile phones and our reliance on them was starting to impact road safety,” said Mr Jannink, managing director of Acusensus, a technology company that supplies road safety cameras to authorities in Australia and overseas.

“Distracted driving is causing a whole lot of new road accidents and fatalities at the moment and it’s totally unaddressed, unlike drink driving or speeding, which are now fairly in control,” he said. “Distracted driving is a major new challenge, it’s a killer on our roads.”

While other states are yet to announce the rollout of mobile phone camera detection technology, they won’t be far behind NSW.

“We can’t comment on which jurisdiction might be next but every other state and territory is watching closely,” said Mr Jannink.

The mobile phone camera detection system works night or day and in any weather conditions. Using advanced camera and radar technology it can operate accurately at speeds up to 300kmh.

The system captures high resolution photographs of every vehicle that passes “and gets high-quality, prosecutable evidence of drivers touching the phone illegally wherever that may be within the cabin”, said Mr Jannink.

The high-speed and high-resolution technology is so accurate it could also be used to enforce speeding, seatbelt use, and detect the number of occupants in cars in transit lanes, however for now the focus is on mobile phone use.

“We are focusing on distracted driving first [though] the exact same hardware can be leveraged for other capabilities. The number of fatalities involving somebody not wearing a seatbelt is about 20 to 30 per cent in Australia, even though 99.9 per cent of people wear a seatbelt,” said Mr Jannink.

Unlike NSW speed cameras, which have warning signs before them, there will be no warning signs for mobile phone detection cameras – despite repeated calls from the State Opposition and the NRMA who argued signs would prompt drivers to get off their phones.

On Friday NSW minister for roads and transport, Andrew Constance, told Radio 2GB: “We want to create the same environment that we have around [random breath testing] because quite frankly using a mobile phone is equivalent to driving drunk behind the wheel.”

“We’re seeing too many accidents, too many people hurt and killed, and the phone is a hidden villain in this because it quite often is hard to detect whether someone was on a phone before a car accident because quite often phones get destroyed,” said Mr Constance.

In response to accusations of revenue raising, Mr Constance said: “With revenue raising for fines around speed cameras and the mobile phone detection cameras, all that money is going into a community road safety fund to get idiots to behave as they should have in the first place, and not drive dangerously on the road. We’re having to plough it back in to educate people who should have done the right thing in the first place.”

In the five years to the end of 2017, the NSW Government claims 184 crashes involved illegal mobile phone use, resulting in seven deaths and 105 injuries.

Despite some of the strictest enforcement of mobile phone use in the world, many drivers are still unaware of the fineprint of the law.

Novice drivers such as learners and provisional licence holders are not allowed to use any function of a mobile phone while driving, including audio and navigation. The device can be kept in their pocket, a bag, or in a console of the car, but it cannot be rested on their body, handled, or used in any way while driving.

Fully licenced drivers are not allowed to use any function of the phone other than to take or make a call, play audio, or use navigation maps.

However, in most jurisdictions these functions can only be activated by voice. Drivers can’t even touch the phone to take or make a call, even when in an approved and secure phone mount.

If the phone needs to be touched to operate audio or navigation functions, this must be done before the vehicle is moving – or only via smartphone mirroring apps such as Apple Car Play and Android Auto, which use the vehicle's infotainment screen.

For example, according to NSW legislation it is illegal for drivers to “enter or place, other than by use of voice, anything into the phone or sending or looking at anything that is in the phone, turning the phone on or off, operating any other function of the phone”.

Further, a mobile phone cannot be “held”, which includes “held by or resting on any part of the driver’s body”.

The law in the Australian Capital Territory explicitly states: “The use of the phone does not require the driver, at any time while using it, to press any thing on the body of the phone or to otherwise manipulate any part of the body of the phone. Pushing buttons on a phone that is in a cradle … is not allowed.”

In NSW and most other jurisdictions the car must be parked in a designated parking area and the vehicle stopped before a phone can be used. It is still illegal to use a phone when the vehicle is stopped in a line of traffic: “You must not use a hand-held mobile phone or visual display unit while driving, even if you are stopped at traffic lights”.

In Victoria, police can issue mobile phone tickets to drivers even if the car is parked and in a designated parking space if the engine is still on, because the wording of the law says “while operating a motor vehicle”. This law has been tested in court and drivers have lost.

In NSW, to use a mobile phone “you must be parked out of the line of traffic, however, the ignition does not need to be turned off”, says the NSW Centre for Road Safety website.

The Australian Capital Territory is to date the only jurisdiction to have separate fines for mobile phone calls versus other functions, including “messaging, social networking, mobile application or accessing internet”.

For now, there are still no specific laws covering smart watches – which can display phone messages – and tablets such as iPads. However, police can instead issue distracted driving tickets such as “not have proper control of vehicle”.

While double demerit points will be in force over the Christmas and New Year period in NSW from December 20 to January 1, 2020 – where drivers risk a $344 fine and 10 demerits for using a mobile phone illegally, here are the fines across Australia:

Mobile phone fines in Australia:

NSW mobile phone fines:
$344 and five demerit points, $457 and five demerit points in school zones, points doubled during double demerit periods.

Queensland mobile phone fines: $1000 and four demerit points from 1 February 2020, currently $400 and three points. Repeat offenders receive double demerit points if caught again within 12 months from the previous offence.

Victoria mobile phone fines: $496 and four demerit points.

Australian Capital Territory mobile phone fines: $480 three demerit points for handheld phone use, $589 and four demerit points for driver using mobile device for messaging, social networking, mobile application or accessing internet.

South Australia mobile phone fines: $554 and three demerit points.

Western Australia mobile phone fines: $400 and three demerit points.

Northern Territory mobile phone fines: $500 and three demerit points.

Tasmania mobile phone fine: $336 and three demerit points.

Information accurate as at December 2019.
 
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Let's not pretend this is about catching people on their phones, this is about having more video of everything. They want everything recorded... everything.
 
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Unfortunately using a phone to navigate is out, but if your car comes with a screen then you can twiddle the dials to navigate all you like, or so it appears.
 
What if someone uses a map and looks at it? What if someone is eating? What if someone is doing make-up? What if someone is distracted by the "entertainment car system?"
 
Let's not pretend this is about catching people on their phones, this is about having more video of everything. They want everything recorded... everything.

Perhaps. Whatever the case, I don’t imagine it will markedly improve things anyway.

Buts let’s imagine that tomorrow your mom is killed by someone texting and driving. Would your opinion about cameras change? This will in fact be reality for someone tomorrow.



The National Safety Council reports that cell phone use while driving leads to 1.6 million crashes each year. Nearly 390,000 injuries occur each year from accidents caused by texting while driving. 1 out of every 4 car accidentsin the United States is caused by texting and driving.
 
This argument would get a fail grade in your philosophy course!

Perhaps. Whatever the case, I don’t imagine it will markedly improve things anyway.

Buts let’s imagine that tomorrow your mom is killed by someone texting and driving. Would your opinion about cameras change? This will in fact be reality for someone tomorrow.
 
Perhaps. Whatever the case, I don’t imagine it will markedly improve things anyway.

Buts let’s imagine that tomorrow your mom is killed by someone texting and driving. Would your opinion about cameras change? This will in fact be reality for someone tomorrow.



The National Safety Council reports that cell phone use while driving leads to 1.6 million crashes each year. Nearly 390,000 injuries occur each year from accidents caused by texting while driving. 1 out of every 4 car accidentsin the United States is caused by texting and driving.
True, but what if they were killed by someone looking at a magazine, eating, or doing make-up? All just as dangerous if not more.
 
True, but what if they were killed by someone looking at a magazine, eating, or doing make-up? All just as dangerous if not more.
What I was wondering is if your objection to the new law and the cameras was objective in nature? Such that your opinion would remain the same regardless?

I won’t address your quoted argument, unless you insist.
 
https://www.caradvice.com.au/811236...-australia-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/


Mobile phone detection cameras set to roll out across Australia, here’s everything you need to know

Joshua Dowling
NATIONAL MOTORING EDITOR

World-first technology to catch drivers using phones illegally is being introduced in NSW ahead of the rest of the country. Here are the mobile phone fines in each state.

Drivers using a mobile phone illegally have a greater chance of getting caught from today, as NSW becomes the first place in the world to introduce mobile phone detection cameras – and other Australian states are poised to follow.

A mix of 10 fixed and portable mobile phone detection cameras will be installed in NSW from today (1 December 2019); another 35 are planned over the next four years.

During a three-month trial at two locations in metropolitan Sydney (Anzac Parade and the M4 Motorway), 100,000 drivers were detected using a mobile phone illegally among the 8.3 million vehicles caught on camera, the equivalent of more than $34 million in fines.

Sophisticated software automatically detects if a driver is handling a phone. Filtered images are then checked by a human eye by NSW authorities before a fine is issued. Discarded images are deleted from digital files within an hour.

NSW will send warning letters – but no fine – for the first three months, before penalties of $344 and five demerit points are issued from 1 March 2020. In school zones the fine increases to $457 and during double demerits periods 10 points are issued.

The technology was invented by a University of Melbourne engineering graduate after a cyclist friend was killed in late 2013 by a driver suspected of being on a mobile phone.

“After my friend James was killed by a distracted and impaired driver I filled the walls of my office with ideas on how technology could have prevented this,” the inventor of mobile phone detection cameras, Alexander Jannink, told CarAdvice.

“At the time, driver distraction wasn’t recognised as a really serious or emerging road safety issue, but it quickly became apparent that mobile phones and our reliance on them was starting to impact road safety,” said Mr Jannink, managing director of Acusensus, a technology company that supplies road safety cameras to authorities in Australia and overseas.

“Distracted driving is causing a whole lot of new road accidents and fatalities at the moment and it’s totally unaddressed, unlike drink driving or speeding, which are now fairly in control,” he said. “Distracted driving is a major new challenge, it’s a killer on our roads.”

While other states are yet to announce the rollout of mobile phone camera detection technology, they won’t be far behind NSW.

“We can’t comment on which jurisdiction might be next but every other state and territory is watching closely,” said Mr Jannink.

The mobile phone camera detection system works night or day and in any weather conditions. Using advanced camera and radar technology it can operate accurately at speeds up to 300kmh.

The system captures high resolution photographs of every vehicle that passes “and gets high-quality, prosecutable evidence of drivers touching the phone illegally wherever that may be within the cabin”, said Mr Jannink.

The high-speed and high-resolution technology is so accurate it could also be used to enforce speeding, seatbelt use, and detect the number of occupants in cars in transit lanes, however for now the focus is on mobile phone use.

“We are focusing on distracted driving first [though] the exact same hardware can be leveraged for other capabilities. The number of fatalities involving somebody not wearing a seatbelt is about 20 to 30 per cent in Australia, even though 99.9 per cent of people wear a seatbelt,” said Mr Jannink.

Unlike NSW speed cameras, which have warning signs before them, there will be no warning signs for mobile phone detection cameras – despite repeated calls from the State Opposition and the NRMA who argued signs would prompt drivers to get off their phones.

On Friday NSW minister for roads and transport, Andrew Constance, told Radio 2GB: “We want to create the same environment that we have around [random breath testing] because quite frankly using a mobile phone is equivalent to driving drunk behind the wheel.”

“We’re seeing too many accidents, too many people hurt and killed, and the phone is a hidden villain in this because it quite often is hard to detect whether someone was on a phone before a car accident because quite often phones get destroyed,” said Mr Constance.

In response to accusations of revenue raising, Mr Constance said: “With revenue raising for fines around speed cameras and the mobile phone detection cameras, all that money is going into a community road safety fund to get idiots to behave as they should have in the first place, and not drive dangerously on the road. We’re having to plough it back in to educate people who should have done the right thing in the first place.”

In the five years to the end of 2017, the NSW Government claims 184 crashes involved illegal mobile phone use, resulting in seven deaths and 105 injuries.

Despite some of the strictest enforcement of mobile phone use in the world, many drivers are still unaware of the fineprint of the law.

Novice drivers such as learners and provisional licence holders are not allowed to use any function of a mobile phone while driving, including audio and navigation. The device can be kept in their pocket, a bag, or in a console of the car, but it cannot be rested on their body, handled, or used in any way while driving.

Fully licenced drivers are not allowed to use any function of the phone other than to take or make a call, play audio, or use navigation maps.

However, in most jurisdictions these functions can only be activated by voice. Drivers can’t even touch the phone to take or make a call, even when in an approved and secure phone mount.

If the phone needs to be touched to operate audio or navigation functions, this must be done before the vehicle is moving – or only via smartphone mirroring apps such as Apple Car Play and Android Auto, which use the vehicle's infotainment screen.

For example, according to NSW legislation it is illegal for drivers to “enter or place, other than by use of voice, anything into the phone or sending or looking at anything that is in the phone, turning the phone on or off, operating any other function of the phone”.

Further, a mobile phone cannot be “held”, which includes “held by or resting on any part of the driver’s body”.

The law in the Australian Capital Territory explicitly states: “The use of the phone does not require the driver, at any time while using it, to press any thing on the body of the phone or to otherwise manipulate any part of the body of the phone. Pushing buttons on a phone that isobile
I really enjoyed driving on Australian this past April. I was warned by several people to be sure I don’t speed, etc as there are supposedly cameras everywhere.

What I observed was people drive “as if the cops were watching” pretty much all the time. So refreshing compared to how people drive in American cities.

In Utah for example, a state politician was fined years ago for speeding or running a red light. He publicly fought the ticket in the most high profile way and used it as the basis for his reelection. He was successful in getting traffic cameras removed for the purposes of issuing citations. And as a result, people drive as if nobody is watching.

It’s so bad with people running lights here that they seriously ran commercials urging drivers to look both ways and ensure nobody is coming when the light turns green. Essentially saying that they realize the problem, but there really isn’t anything that can be done in a practical sense to stop it.

Following this advice has saved me several times. In one instance, the guy running the light actually hit drivers in the other 3 lanes. I remained still at the green light, because I saw him racing the light, so I was fine

As a funny aside, I was at a party last year and a “financially comfortable” woman was telling how she got tired of waiting for a light so drove through it and was issued a ticket by an unmarked cop who was also at the light. She was telling the group how unfair that was.

But even funnier is the fact that another “financially comfortable” gentlemen then proceeds to tell a story of how he was leaving a wine tasting in Sonoma and backed into a driving service car. This gentlemen said that the guy he hit “was being a complete jerk about the whole thing”, but agreed not to call the cops (the guy was drunk) if he’d just give the guy his insurance information and his cell phone number. He goes on to say that “ he gave this jerk his expired insurance information” (he just changed insurance companies), and that this jerk started calling him a half hour later when he discovered this. He said he refused to answer the phone for this jerk and went on about how bad people are.

That was about the funniest thing I’d ever heard.
 
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I really enjoyed driving on Australian this past April. I was warned by several people to be sure I don’t speed, etc as there are supposedly cameras everywhere.

What I observed was people drive “as if the cops were watching” pretty much all the time. So refreshing compared to how people drive in American cities.

In Utah for example, a state politician was fined years ago for speeding or running a red light. He publicly fought the ticket in the most high profile way and used it as the basis for his reelection. He was successful in getting traffic cameras removed for the purposes of issuing citations. And as a result, people drive as if nobody is watching.

It’s so bad with people running lights here that they seriously ran commercials urging drivers to look both ways and ensure nobody is coming when the light turns green. Essentially saying that they realize the problem, but there really isn’t anything that can be done in a practical sense to stop it.

Following this advice has saved me several times. In one instance, the guy running the light actually hit drivers in the other 3 lanes. I remained still at the green light, because I saw him racing the light, so I was fine
Just introduce those bad Utah drivers to our Red Tide friend and perhaps they’ll fall in love with the color, no?
 
In Victoria, police can issue mobile phone tickets to drivers even if the car is parked and in a designated parking space if the engine is still on, because the wording of the law says “while operating a motor vehicle”. This law has been tested in court and drivers have lost.

Thats just dumb and very poorly worded. A non moving car cannot cause an accident, defies the purpose...
 
What if someone uses a map and looks at it? What if someone is eating? What if someone is doing make-up? What if someone is distracted by the "entertainment car system?"

I never use a mobile while driving. Occasionally I pick up a tablet to look at the map. Is that okay?
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I never use a mobile while driving. Occasionally I pick up a tablet to look at the map. Is that okay?
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I would say it depends on each person and how aware and focused they still are on the road. However, the rule here is saying the government does not trust us with these decisions (rightfully so), so they are saying that the phone is a distraction that can cause injury or death. I agree, but I also agree that phones are not the only thing that can become a distraction, so why single out just phones?

But I dont think this camera detector will work or prevent much, and is going to be used for other things then originally intended for...
 
I would say it depends on each person and how aware and focused they still are on the road. However, the rule here is saying the government does not trust us with these decisions (rightfully so), so they are saying that the phone is a distraction that can cause injury or death. I agree, but I also agree that phones are not the only thing that can become a distraction, so why single out just phones?

But I dont think this camera detector will work or prevent much, and is going to be used for other things then originally intended for...

It is also about revenue generation as much as it it is about Big Brother cameras...
Don't have much problem singling out phones seeing all these women recklessly babbling on the phones. They have no self-control!
Phones are the most common distraction.
 
I would rather see mobile phones go into 'driving mode' automatically where the driver can't use the phone when the automobile is moving.
 
They are charging $1000 in Queensland because the state is broke and they need the revenue.
I'm not sure whether these infringements will include people playing their podcasts or radio streaming through their blue tooth devices.?
 
They are charging $1000 in Queensland because the state is broke and they need the revenue.
I'm not sure whether these infringements will include people playing their podcasts or radio streaming through their blue tooth devices.?
That’s the exact argument the Utah congressman used. And it played brilliantly.
 
The best thing to do is to put you mobile device in your boot while you are driving. Once you eliminate the possibility of a fine I'm sure the government will be happy with that. Why give them the pleasure to take more money from you.
 
Been watching the X-Files and quite surprised to see agent Dana Scully driving while talking on the phone and then agent Reyes driving agent Doggett home after having a few beer.:eek:
 
You'd say anything as long as it conformed to the Murdoch alt-right editorial line.

They are charging $1000 in Queensland because the state is broke and they need the revenue.
I'm not sure whether these infringements will include people playing their podcasts or radio streaming through their blue tooth devices.?
 
Why not throw in a little casual misogyny while we're at it?

It is also about revenue generation as much as it it is about Big Brother cameras...
Don't have much problem singling out phones seeing all these women recklessly babbling on the phones. They have no self-control!
Phones are the most common distraction.
 
'While operating a motor vehicle' is a well-worded and consistently used phrase in legislation, even if it is a tad restrictive in this context.

Thats just dumb and very poorly worded. A non moving car cannot cause an accident, defies the purpose...
 
I never use a mobile while driving. Occasionally I pick up a tablet to look at the map. Is that okay?
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I think it's better to put the tablet on a tablet holder and then use it by using voice command such as Ok Google or Hey Siri.
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But it's best not to use it at all. Or don't look at it, and just listen to the navigation robot lady.
 
Your argument was an appeal to emotional self-interest and therefore a big fail. You also fail, like others, to distinguish the prohobition itself from its new mode of technological enforcement.

I’m not following?
 
Thats just dumb and very poorly worded. A non moving car cannot cause an accident, defies the purpose...
It reminds me of when I looked at a package of cooked King Prawn in the supermarket the other day, and the package label says: "WARNING: may contains prawn".

:-D:-D:-D
 
A non-moving car can cause an accident.

You get behind the wheel in a car, and you are indeed operating it from that point.

I plan my trips in advance if going to an unfamiliar destination so the law is fine with me, even if I think the fines are outrageous.

The problem here is the surveillance, and the fact is that privacy is often flouted by the state whatever promises are made and however the legislation is worded.

And the idea of 'while operating a motor vehicle' means also that you can't slam down a beer if you pull off to the side of the road, which was not unheard of in the past.

So if you want to drink or phone, you need to stop the car and get out of it. Inconvenient but tolerable!
 
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It reminds me of when I looked at a package of cooked King Prawn in the supermarket the other day, and the package label says: "WARNING: may contains prawn".

:-D:-D:-D
I think they are going to start requiring McDonalds to add a packaging warning label as well "Warning, may contain beef".
 
Given that McDonalds seems to contain some sort of simulacrum of beef, I would have thought 'may contain beef' was simply the acknowledgement of a possibility.

I think they are going to start requiring McDonalds to add a packaging warning label as well "Warning, may contain beef".
 
Yes, well, it's the normal right-wing style of government trying to focus on an 'evil' to offer the ordinary people a scapegoat to 'hate on'.

What is with these outrageous fines? What type of fascist government is running things down there?
:unsure:
 
Yes, well, it's the normal right-wing style of government trying to focus on an 'evil' to offer the ordinary people a scapegoat to 'hate on'.

Exactly WHO is the scapegoat? Practically everyone drives and has a mobile.
These exorbitant fines are commonly levied by the left as well, as a means of revenue generation.
 
New South Wales rolled out mobile phone detection cameras on Sunday, hoping to cut the number of fatalities on its roads by a third over two years, transport authorities said.​
The world-first mobile phone detection cameras, according to Transport for NSW, which manages the state’s transport services, operate day and night in all weather conditions to determine if a driver is handling a mobile phone.​
“It’s a system to change the culture,” the NSW police assistant commissioner, Michael Corboy, told Australian media last week.​
Making or receiving voice calls while driving in NSW is legal, but only when using a hands-free device. All other functions, such as video calling, using social media and photography, are illegal while behind the wheel.​
Cases challenging mobile phone detection cameras could clog NSW courts, MPs warn​
So far this year 329 people have died on NSW roads, compared with 354 people for all of 2018, according to official statistics. The state wants to cut the number of road fatalities by 30% by 2021.​
The mobile phone detection cameras use artificial intelligence to review images and detect illegal use of the devices, Transport for NSW said in a statement.​
Images that the automated system identifies as likely to contain a driver illegally using a mobile phone are verified by authorised personnel.​
There have been concerns that the new laws will reverse the onus of proof on to drivers and could flood the courts with people disputing their fines.​
The government hopes to snap 135m vehicles every year within four to five years of the program starting. If 1.8% of drivers are caught using their mobile phones, that adds up to some 2.4 million people. A parliamentary committee said that if just 3% of their cases ended up in the courts, some 72,900 cases would be filed.​
For the first three months after the detection systems are in operation, offending drivers will be issued warning letters. After that, the penalty will be a A$344 standard fine and a A$457 fine in a school zone. In both cases, drivers will also receive penalty points.​
 
And look what else a normal right-wing style of government does when it focuses on the evil called drug-taking:

A 15-year-old boy was told to “hold your dick and lift your balls up and show me your gooch” and a police officer “ran his hands around” the buttocks of a 17-year-old during two of 25 potentially illegal strip-searches conducted at an underage music festival in Sydney, an inquiry has heard.

On Monday the Law Enforcement Conduct Commission (LECC) began public hearings into the strip-search of “several young people” at the Lost City Music festival, an under-18s event held in Sydney in February.

The inquiry is investigating the strip-searches of three boys aged 15, 16 and 17 at the festival, none of which found any illegal drugs, as well as the “general question” of how police exercise their strip-search powers in New South Wales.

On its opening morning the counsel assisting the commission, Peggy Dwyer, told the hearing at least 30 strip-searches were conducted on minors at the festival.
 
The small group who text and drive, obviously, and here this kind of policy is rather bipartisan.

Exactly WHO is the scapegoat? Practically everyone drives and has a mobile.
These exorbitant fines are commonly levied by the left as well, as a means of revenue generation.
 
The mobile phone detection cameras use artificial intelligence to review images and detect illegal use of the devices, Transport for NSW said in a statement.
Images that the automated system identifies as likely to contain a driver illegally using a mobile phone are verified by authorised personnel.
There have been concerns that the new laws will reverse the onus of proof on to drivers and could flood the courts with people disputing their fines.

It appears that the system photographs every single vehicle. This looks to be an invasion of privacy and unreasonable search.
 
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You barely have any rights in Australia even when you are not in a vehicle, but once you are in one you forfeit what's left.
 
On Friday NSW minister for roads and transport, Andrew Constance, told Radio 2GB: “We want to create the same environment that we have around [random breath testing] because quite frankly using a mobile phone is equivalent to driving drunk behind the wheel.”

“We’re seeing too many accidents, too many people hurt and killed, and the phone is a hidden villain in this because it quite often is hard to detect whether someone was on a phone before a car accident because quite often phones get destroyed,” said Mr Constance.

In response to accusations of revenue raising, Mr Constance said: “With revenue raising for fines around speed cameras and the mobile phone detection cameras, all that money is going into a community road safety fund to get idiots to behave as they should have in the first place, and not drive dangerously on the road. We’re having to plough it back in to educate people who should have done the right thing in the first place.”

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Andrew Constance -- Liberal Party
 
The small group who text and drive, obviously, and here this kind of policy is rather bipartisan.

IIRC, mobile use was legal in CA for years. Everyone did it (at least occasionally) and most drivers used mobiles quickly, safely and responsibly.
These draconian measures are simply a money grab by a failed government hungry for revenue.

Even after making it illegal. a significant number are still doing it.

During a three-month trial at two locations in metropolitan Sydney (Anzac Parade and the M4 Motorway), 100,000 drivers were detected using a mobile phone illegally among the 8.3 million vehicles caught on camera, the equivalent of more than $34 million in fines.​
Sophisticated software automatically detects if a driver is handling a phone. Filtered images are then checked by a human eye by NSW authorities before a fine is issued. Discarded images are deleted from digital files within an hour.​
 
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What is with these outrageous fines? What type of fascist government is running things down there?
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There are signs saying "No Smoking, Fine applies" on every train and tram stations here. But I often see people smoking and nobody do anything about it. I even saw the station staff smoking.

There are many fare evaders too, on the bus, tram and train. The transport police sometimes on patrol and interrogate the offenders. The fine for fare evading on the tram is more than $200. But, still a lot of people don't pay.

Buses are worse.. usually teenagers/ school kids. Some drivers are tough on them, but most drivers just let the kids ride the bus for free. The bus driver just told them to take their own risk if the transport police catches them. Often the drivers just don't say anything to them at all because it happens daily, same person, same fake excuses such as forgetting their wallet et cetera.

I was just surprised the first time I saw this. In my supposedly third world home country, I rarely see people ride the bus for free. When they get caught by the money collector guy, he would tell them to get off the bus. Not here in Australia!

Poor bus drivers, often they get attacked by the fare evaders!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...acked-in-brisbanes-south-20170714-gxbmk7.html

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/po...buses-hits-99-3-per-cent-20190417-p51f38.html

https://m.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/surfside-bus-driver-allegedly-punched-in-face-at-r/3290962/

https://www.couriermail.com.au/ques...e/news-story/3d7c1c82c627469b6076ead7d02dfea0
 
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