Doubles tennis

[MarinaHighTennis]

Heres a clip of me and friends playing some doubles. Tips appreciated and things that I should be doing more often
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT_dcv7nYj4
Here's a past vid of singles with yonexpurestorm(check out his channel) and some other singles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFgWwCzUeQk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwDeegjhoGc&feature=channel_video_title

Vid for my friend in his CIF quest (ended against gage brymer):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYnlp40JR8&feature=channel_video_title


If you guys are interested in music videos... comments would be appreciated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVC55FY7sHU&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT1PA8YbsGs&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-FoOkuVBz4&feature=related

I would appreciate subscribers it means a lot to me as a minor in music (instruments not singing lol)

 

[treblings]

any comments or opinions based on a short video are difficult and may be useless.
having said that, here it is
i like to see a lot more serve&volley in doubles.
in fact, was there even one attempt from either team in your video?
the most successful doubles formation is still when both players are at the net.
Also, movement as a team.
when one player has to run after the ball his partner has to move with him to cover the court. otherwise you open up to many spaces for your opponents to hit thru.
hope my comments help

 

[tvu]

Definitely try to move together as a team and try to get to the net with both partners up there. There are just too many points with 1 up/1 down.
* Try to take some risks as a netman and poach.
There was even one point when you were serving, and your partner was at the baseline - yet you were coming in after your serve?
More cross court rallies - I think the baseline person tries to hit winning shots against the net person way to often. Higher level it will be a put away volley.

 

[beernutz]

IMO there is not enough poaching or fake poaching is going on. I think the netman on the serving side should be doing one or the other on every serve to get into the receiver's head if nothing else. Most of the time they look like statues. </$.02>

 

[Off The Wall]

Forget tips. You guys need the whole enchilada.

Pretty much all four of you were not acting as a team. Understandable for newbies. It's something you'll have to give more thought to. Why hit there? Why stand here? Why move over there? How do I best cover with my partner? Etc.

You guys have no answer for any of those questions.

If you can take a few doubles lessons to learn what you're trying to accomplish it would be worth your while. And/or, look up cindysphinx's doubles threads. She is always asking those types of questions and getting good answers from this board.

 

[MarinaHighTennis]

Forget tips. You guys need the whole enchilada.

Pretty much all four of you were not acting as a team. Understandable for newbies. It's something you'll have to give more thought to. Why hit there? Why stand here? Why move over there? How do I best cover with my partner? Etc.

You guys have no answer for any of those questions.

If you can take a few doubles lessons to learn what you're trying to accomplish it would be worth your while. And/or, look up cindysphinx's doubles threads. She is always asking those types of questions and getting good answers from this board.

I appreciate this A LOT. I believe you hit it in the nail. While we are individually good players (IMO) we are a horrible team due to communication the fact we have no answers for these questions.

Thanks a lot! Season starts in 2 months so I have time to make them work as a team. Last year I played 3 doubles with that same partner and we did pretty well (4th best doubles team in League/18 teams) but what separated my partner and I from 1 (marina 1 team), 2 (marina 2) and 3 (other school 1) was his doubles IQ :-? and his unwillingness to communicate (as in signals and hates when I poach so always says no).

Hows my music vids? LOL
btw someone posted how I did my vids but heres how
tennis: gorrillapod onto fence with flip camcorder
music: imovie recording while using garageband to sync. For the box effects I did picture in picture by turning on advanced tools and exported, pic in pic other instrument export, etc.
Tedious but works well

 

[dizzlmcwizzl]

You guys have no answer for any of those questions.

^^^^^

Getting to the point where you can talk about what you did or not do right would be a huge step. Right now while you all look like you have hit, served and return many balls it does not appear to me that any of you know where your opponents will be and which shots you should hit once you know where your opponents are.

It seems to me that you can only gain this knowledge through 2 fundamental approaches ...

1) Play with and watch good doubles players and pay attention to what they do in every situation. Verbalize your observations with your partner and figure out why they do what they do and what you should do in return. Then practice what you figure out.

and / or

2) Get the the information from someone else through lessons or research. Lessons are probably the most effective because someone with knowledge of your skill sets can provide customized feedback targeted for you specific needs. Research, either on line or in print, can work but you need to be judicious about where you get your information. Some ideas are perfect and helpful and others lead to confusion. Figuring out which is which turns out to be an art-form.

 

[Ptrac]

I dont understand the strategy of volleying short to the net guy. You have good volleys so stick it at the net guys feet or split them up the middle. Stop trying to be "cute" and put the ball away with some purpose. When you play dubs, YOUR mission should be to take over the middle of the court and have your friend bang from the baseline to set you up.

You should be serve-n-volleying every time with your hands. When you don't S-n-V you set your partner up to get ripped at and his volleys are pretty horrendous. Thats why you played two back ON YOUR SERVE

I would poach more when your partner is serving on the ad side. This way if they return dtl its to his FH.

 

[5263]

At times when you are going to play one up, one back, - you need to switch better.

The back player can see where the net man is, so it is his responsibility to make sure he is covering the other side. Net man can't usually see where the back man is.

 

[treblings]

we all seem to agree more or less.
i have a special affinity for doubles going back to the time when i started
out playing tennis at 13.
my doubles partner and i figured out, that we could beat better singles players in doubles by optimizing our strategy, movement as a team, communicating, etc.
we would often talk in school about something we read or seen on tv about doubles and how we should try this formation or that strategy and than we would get out on the court to practice.
my advice would be to watch as much high-class doubles as you can and try to imitate what the top players do.
getting doubles lessons by a good pro is obviously the best you can do.