Draw and schedule not helping Roger

Terry Tibbs

Terry Tibbs

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Not only has Federer got a tough draw but the organisers have not been kind. Not only is he playing Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday meaning only 1 day off before the 4th round when Murray and Nadal will have 2 days off but they have also put his match today on last which eats into even more rest time before next round.
 
This is the way Wimbledon has worked for ages - the only reason you're bringing this up now is because Federer has been affected this time round. They don't need to help him out, he's won 7 titles here already. The important thing is that opponents in the bottom half get the same amount of rest assuming no adverse weather conditions.
 
Krish872007 said:
This is the way Wimbledon has worked for ages - the only reason you're bringing this up now is because Federer has been affected this time round. They don't need to help him out, he's won 7 titles here already. The important thing is that opponents in the bottom half get the same amount of rest assuming no adverse weather conditions.
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Well they should take players ages into account.
 
Terry Tibbs said:
Not only has Federer got a tough draw but the organisers have not been kind. Not only is he playing Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday meaning only 1 day off before the 4th round when Murray and Nadal will have 2 days off but they have also put his match today on last which eats into even more rest time before next round.
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He gets Sunday off, dude. He does not need more than a day to recover from today's match,

After that they all get the same rest.
 
jaggy said:
It's a conspiracy i tell you
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Don't forget that Mirka decides the draw and also gives the court specialists the exact specs as well as coordinates with the ball company.

So it only appears to be against Fed but secretly it's all in His Favour.

(source Nadal News thread :D :D
just kitten)
 
Just realised Fed had a horrendous draw:
R1 The Dog
R2 Lajovic (the only cushion)
R3 Zverev M
R4 Dimitrov
QF Milos/Zverev A
SF Djoke
F Mug/Rafa/Cilic

WTF....No.8 ain't gonna come easy...
 
Terry Tibbs said:
Not only has Federer got a tough draw but the organisers have not been kind. Not only is he playing Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday meaning only 1 day off before the 4th round when Murray and Nadal will have 2 days off but they have also put his match today on last which eats into even more rest time before next round.
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I'm surprised this is even a thread. It is what it is. The organisers aren't purposely trying to do Federer over. It's how it works. Scheduling affects many players during the draw. Sometimes it affects you positively sometimes negatively. But in truth it has no big effect on the players.
 
Fedinkum said:
Just realised Fed had a horrendous draw:
R1 The Dog
R2 Lajovic (the only cushion)
R3 Zverev M
R4 Dimitrov
QF Milos/Zverev A
SF Djoke
F Mug/Rafa/Cilic

WTF....No.8 ain't gonna come easy...
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? His draw is actually pretty good. It could be worse…look at Nadal's draw now…in-form Muller and Cilic then Murray.

Edit..I guess we aren't playing on grass anymore at this point so not too tough for Rafa.
 
Terry Tibbs said:
Not only has Federer got a tough draw but the organisers have not been kind. Not only is he playing Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday meaning only 1 day off before the 4th round when Murray and Nadal will have 2 days off but they have also put his match today on last which eats into even more rest time before next round.
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The SF's will be on Friday.
 
And another conspiracy theory on this board. Draw is against Federer, grass plays too slow, Fed plays too late, what else? Some of you definitely need to sit down with a shrink to discuss delusional paranoia...Fed's a professional, he'll take it as it comes and the draw/scheduling that comes with it, so be it.
 
Murray and Nadal will have an extra day off because the defending champion's half of the draw plays first. Federer isn't someone who makes early rounds complicated nor does he have such a demanding draw, especially considering he's been in great form this year. Not to mention he played 4 sets per round in Australia and he still won it. If he ends up losing at some stage of Wimbledon, fatigue won't be the reason for it.
 
In 2007 Nadal has to play consecutively for the entire second week, while Federer was chilling for a week after his 3rd round match when his 4th round opponent withdrew. Stop overblowing things our of proportions
 
aman92 said:
In 2007 Nadal has to play consecutively for the entire second week, while Federer was chilling for a week after his 3rd round match when his 4th round opponent withdrew. Stop overblowing things our of proportions
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Fed was 26 then and 36 now
 
Terry Tibbs said:
Not only has Federer got a tough draw but the organisers have not been kind. Not only is he playing Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday meaning only 1 day off before the 4th round when Murray and Nadal will have 2 days off but they have also put his match today on last which eats into even more rest time before next round.
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Federer was asked a questions related to this, back in 2009 at the A.O., following Nadal's long match against Verdasco.

It was one of the great ones. Does it make you feel that you've got more of that advantage now that you've had the extra 24 hours and Rafa has had to dig so deep through five hours?
ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, you could think that way, but I don't think it's really going to affect Rafa that much. He's had very easy matches going into this semifinal.
Okay, he has a day less. But, look, I mean, you got to be fit and recover from this kind of a match.
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Q. Both players suggested last night that it would be much fairer if both semifinals were played on the same day. What are your thoughts on that? Fernando was particularly strong suggesting that you have an unfair advantage going into the final.
ROGER FEDERER: I don't think so. I mean, you still got a day off. It's not like he has to play right now, so this is a different story. I mean, it's just the way it is
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1. All Fed's opponents get the same amount of rest time.
2. Playing last is considered the marquee slot
3. His draw is a virtual WO


R1 The Dog - They knew he was lame going into the match

R2 Lajovic (the only cushion) - Stroll in the park

R3 Zverev M - Fed double bagelled him at Halle in 2013. Doesn't stand a cat in hell's chance. Fed leads him 4:0 in their h2h
2013 Halle QF Grass Roger Federer def Mischa Zverev 6-0 6-0

R4 Dimitrov - Will respect his daddy and hand him the match

QF Milos/Zverev A - Servebot fail and NextGen wannabe #1

SF Djoke - A virtual WO in current form

F Mug/Rafa/Cilic - The only real opposition is Nadal, but that cuts both ways.
 
Fed fans are so used to him playing on the first Monday they've started to think it's his right. IMO, the Wimbledon scheduling is the most fair.

Some players will get two days off half way through the tournament, but come Monday, they'll be playing against other players who had two days off (except for those who had to finish their matches today, who will still have a day off). Meanwhile, Federer's half of the draw might just get one day off, but come Monday they'll be up against other players who were scheduled to play on Saturday.

Being last on might be more of a problem if Fed wasn't playing on a court with a roof and lights, and assuming the draw goes with seedings, you can bet it will be the Murray-Nadal match which is the 2nd semi-final. Murray almost always plays the evening slot, not because Wimbledon want him to win, but because the tv companies know that people want to watch when they get home from work. Last night's match peaked at 7.9 million according to twitter.
 
Terry Tibbs said:
Not only has Federer got a tough draw but the organisers have not been kind. Not only is he playing Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday meaning only 1 day off before the 4th round when Murray and Nadal will have 2 days off but they have also put his match today on last which eats into even more rest time before next round.
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WTF are you whining about ? Is Federer a princess that needs all these pampering and embroidery ? What a bunch of flowers Fed fans can be..........:D:D:D
 
The OP even has a troll as an avatar, yet people are still taking the bait :D.

Not everyone is as easily fooled, Nadsie boy.
 
duaneeo said:
Thank you. The courts are slow, the balls are heavy, the draw is tough, the scheduling is bad. What's the deal with the gloom-and-doom attitudes?
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The gloom and doom is growing bc with every additional round that Nadal advances, Fed fans will experience a growing feeling of deja vu. Nadal winning Roland Garros and then carrying that momentum into Wimbledon to win the title is a nightmare scenario. For a diehard Fed fan, Nadal winning Wimbledon this year is at least as bad as Fed winning the AO was good. Anyway, as fans we will be lucky if we can witness another final with Fed and Rafa :)
 
He may be a troll, but they really should get the Djokovic match going already. Otherwise it'll be too dark for Fed/Zverev to play, which I assume means they'll have finish on Sunday. That would put the winner at a disadvantage in the next round.
 
clayqueen said:
1. All Fed's opponents get the same amount of rest time.
2. Playing last is considered the marquee slot
3. His draw is a virtual WO


R1 The Dog - They knew he was lame going into the match

R2 Lajovic (the only cushion) - Stroll in the park

R3 Zverev M - Fed double bagelled him at Halle in 2013. Doesn't stand a cat in hell's chance. Fed leads him 4:0 in their h2h
2013 Halle QF Grass Roger Federer def Mischa Zverev 6-0 6-0

R4 Dimitrov - Will respect his daddy and hand him the match

QF Milos/Zverev A - Servebot fail and NextGen wannabe #1

SF Djoke - A virtual WO in current form

F Mug/Rafa/Cilic - The only real opposition is Nadal, but that cuts both ways.
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Misha Zverev is probably the hardest third round opponent alongside Lopez,Muller and Del Potro. You are bringing up a match that has zero weight because Misha didnt lose 6-0 6-0 because of his skills set! You are taking the completely opposite side when Nadal is involved with his "down" matches and you could at least be consistent about it.
Dimitrov is Dimitrov and you can be certain that neither of the rest of R16 favorities would have a toughter opponent than Grigor. Zverev in the QF is extremely dangerous because he is hungry and its just only matter of time before he steps up and win the biggies, just like Nadal at AO 2005 meeting Hewitt or Djokovic two year later facing Fed. As for the SF, I agree with you - this Djokovic would hardly stop him. As for the final, I think that Cilic could beat Nadal even in straights and after that choke to Murray in SF. If we exclude the "name weight" Cilic has better chance in the final against Federer than Nadal, in terms of game, past form and recent H2H
 
Seven time champion should be allowed to choose the schedule and draw he wants.

Very disrespectful by the tournament to have Fed play on second day
 
tennisaddict said:
Seven time champion should be allowed to choose the schedule and draw he wants.

Very disrespectful by the tournament to have Fed play on second day
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If anyone should get this power it should be the number 1 seed and no one else. Not your favourite either.
 
So given that it is already close to 5:00 PM , it is a possibility that he has to play at night skipping dinner today ?
 
Federer has by far the toughest draw in he tournament. Dimitrov is a brutal round 4 opponent. He should have beaten Nadal in Australia in the semi's and he has beaten Murray here at Wimbledon. That's a brutal oppponent for round 4. Raonic is a wimbledon finalist with a deadly serve and attacking game. Other than Cilic he's by far the deadliest quarter final opponent. Federer then has to take out Djokovic and Nadal/Murray back to back.'if he can pull it off it will probably go down as the greatest grand slam victory of all time.
 
Noleberic123 said:
Is this sarcasm or stupidity?

Help me out guys
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Well, it's a lose-lose situation either way you look at it.

If the OP is serious . . . then it's simply magnifying the lameness of the fanboys on this board. Not good.
If the OP is taking the p*ss and joking . . . then it's simply magnifying the lameness of the lack of originality on this board, cos these jokes are old as f**k.
If the OP is trying to bait the fanboys . . . then it's simply magnifying how petty and obvious this board has been for the last 10 years.

Any way you look at it . . . it don't look good. ;)
 
calm down dude, dont forget that he has practically played one match and it lasted an hour and a half and now against zverev it will be gone real quick due to their styles of play so getting out of the first week has never been so easy on his body
 
NGM said:
What happens to so many Fed fans here? Really, stop giving excuses.
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Relax, . it's who they are. . It's what they do.

There are fans of tennis...

Then there are the TW fanboys who would just as soon see all the other top seeds lose and have the tournament draw disintegrate into a cakewalk for their favourite male tennis idol. . Look no further than the mocking and sniping of Djokovic (i.e. "Djoker") in the "Djokovic-Gulbis" thread as an example. . Me? . I want to see the sport's greatest grand slam (Wimbledon) put its best foot forward, starting with a "big 4" semis.

The best bring out the best. . The rest just want it handed to them..

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That's just part of the challenge of winning Majors. Nothing new or inherently unfair here.

I'd be more worried about form than all these extraneous factors.
 
I think he used up his luck by playing the 1st semi in Australia while Nadal had the 2nd. Just be happy he capitalized there and treat Wimbledon like a bonus. No right to complain, sometimes it breaks your way, sometimes the other.
 
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