Dual rated people (4.0/4.5): Always the lowest?

[Deleted member 23235]

lol. Same with this guy. A lot had to do with the advanced court IQ and footwork from being a higher level player, even if the strokes weren't correct.

hehe, arguably the stroke mechanics of a 4.5-5.0 guy trying to hit opposite hand,... are much better than a 3.0-3.5 (ie they are trying to "do the right thing")... but just not well practiced/coordinated.
not uncommon to see poor stroke mechanics at 3.0-3.5 (but well practiced)... think conti-grip slicer/dicer with lo net clearance, on every stroke... with alot of reps...

 

[5sets]

I noticed lots of people like to give their NTRP as (3.5/4.0). My experience is that whenever there are two given ratings, it is the lower one. Because it seems absurd to have both ratings, as they are mathematical so one must be one or the other. You never hear baseball players say they are "A/AA" players, or basketball players saying they are "D-League/NBA".

Is this true in all sections? I've never seen a (4.0/4.5) and thought, wow what a great 4.5!

Going back to OPs original question it looks like a lot of posters are using dual ratings in their stories, and analogies; I.e. 3.0-3.5 and 4.0-4.5 so it seems to be the norm.

When someone tells you they are a 3.0/3.5 they may be in fact a 3.0 with 3.5 aspirations or maybe they are just a streaky player. I don’t think they are trying to make themselves sound better.


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[5sets]

I think (B) folks are easy to identify when the start threads, "how long to get to 6.0?" or claim 5.0 but never competed.

Lol, I dug up an old thread on here of a 4.5 aspiring to get one ATP point.

Bruh, the only point you’re going to get is when your opponent double faults.


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[Moveforwardalways]

In all seriousness, I think it’s ridiculous for USTA to disallow an ambidextrous player from competing at his correct skill level on each side.

Not only is it ridiculous, it is ambiphobic. I am not sure how the USTA can sleep at night when its ranks are so rife with bigotry.

 

[Moveforwardalways]

Going back to OPs original question it looks like a lot of posters are using dual ratings in their stories, and analogies; I.e. 3.0-3.5 and 4.0-4.5 so it seems to be the norm.

When someone tells you they are a 3.0/3.5 they may be in fact a 3.0 with 3.5 aspirations or maybe they are just a streaky player. I don’t think they are trying to make themselves sound better.


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I think the point is that a player only has one USTA rating. They don’t give out dual ratings. You are either a 3.5 or a 4.0, not both. If you say you are a 3.5/4.0, you are either trying to hide something or sell something.

 

[travlerajm]

I think the "dual" rating description is very helpful when meeting up with strangers to set accurate expectations.
When someone describes himself as a "strong 4.0", it is often someone who doesn't play USTA leagues, and is actually a very weak 4.0 at best but doesn't realize that he is innocently mistaken in his self rating. This over-self-rating situation can lead to embarassment if the meetup results in a mismatch, and these over-self-raters are so abundant in the non-USTA world that the NTRP rating scale practically get redefined outside of league play. I often describe myself as a 4.5/5.0 to set accurate expectations and not get lumped together with the over-self-rated guys. In other words, the dual rating (4.5/5.0) description is way more legit than "strong 4.5."

There is also a second reason that the dual rating helps in my case when setting up meetups in other cities:
I live in a section that seems to have systematically depressed NTRP computer ratings, for reasons that are not entirely clear. That is, a 4.5 computer rating in Seattle is not the same as a 4.5 rating in most parts of the country. I'd estimate maybe 0.2 difference, based on my experiences traveling around (hence my username) and competing against other computer-rated players around the country. I believe this NTRP level offset is reflected in PNW's disproportionately high rate of success at nationals.

 

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That is, a 4.5 computer rating in Seattle is not the same as a 4.5 rating in most parts of the country. I'd estimate maybe 0.2 difference, based on my experiences traveling around (hence my username) and competing against other computer-rated players around the country.

No offense, but lol.