Duel Match Stats/Reports - Federer vs Coria & Federer vs Gasquet, Hamburg finals, 2004 & 2005

Waspsting

Hall of Fame
Roger Federer beat Guillermo Coria 4-6, 6-4, 6-2, 6-3 in the Hamburg final, 2004 on clay

It was Federer's second title at the event. Coria was the defending champion and had won his last 5 tournaments on clay, stretching back to the previous season (Stuttgart, Kitzbuhel, Sopot, Buenos Aires and Monte Carlo). He would go onto lose the in the final of the upcoming French Open after having championship point

Federer won 118 points, Coria 97

Serve Stats
Federer...
- 1st serve percentage (64/113) 57%
- 1st serve points won (50/64) 78%
- 2nd serve points won (29/49) 59%
- Aces 7 (1 not clean), Service Winners 2
- Unreturned Serve Percentage (31/113) 27%

Coria...
- 1st serve percentage (71/102) 70%
- 1st serve points won (49/71) 69%
- 2nd serve points won (14/31) 45%
- Aces 2
- Double Faults 4
- Unreturned Serve Percentage (15/102) 15%

Serve Pattern
Federer served...
- to FH 39%
- to BH 58%
- to Body 4%

Coria served...
- to FH 21%
- to BH 68%
- to Body 10%

Return Stats
Federer made...
- 83 (30 FH, 53 BH), including 12 runaround FHs
- 2 Winners (2 FH), including 1 runaround FH
- 13 Errors, comprising...
- 11 Unforced (3 FH, 8 BH), including 1 runaround FH
- 2 Forced (1 FH, 1 BH)
- Return Rate (83/98) 85%

Coria made...
- 82 (29 FH, 53 BH)
- 3 Winner (3 FH)
- 22 Errors, comprising...
- 9 Unforced (5 FH, 4 BH)
- 13 Forced (7 FH, 6 BH)
- Return Rate (82/113) 73%

Break Points
Federer 5/10 (5 games)
Coria 2/4 (4 games)

Winners (including returns, excluding aces)
Federer 29 (21 FH, 5 BH, 1 FHV, 1 BHV, 1 OH)
Coria 18 (7 FH, 8 BH, 1 FHV, 1 BHV, 1 BHOH)

Federer's FHs - 8 cc, 3 dtl (2 returns - 1 runaround), 4 inside-out (1 at net), 5 inside-in and 1 inside-in/cc
- BHs - 1 dtl, 1 inside-out, 2 drop shots and 1 net chord dribbler

Coria's FHs - 1 cc return, 2 dtl (1 return, 1 pass), 3 inside-in (1 return) and 1 longline
- BHs - 4 cc (1 at net, 2 passes - 1 one-handed slice), 2 dtl (1 pass), 1 lob and 1 running-down-drop-shot dtl (not at net)

Errors (excluding returns and serves)
Federer 64
- 48 Unforced (29 FH, 16 BH, 2 FHV, 1 BHV)... 1 FHV was a swinging shot
- 16 Forced (8 FH, 8 BH)... with 1 FH running-down-drop-shot at net
- Unforced Error Forcefulness Index 46.0

Coria 54
- 37 Unforced (18 FH, 17 BH, 1 BHV, 1 OH)
- 17 Forced (7 FH, 6 BH, 3 BHV, 1 Tweener)
- Unforced Error Forcefulness Index 46.8

(Note 1: all half-volleys refer to such shots played at net. Half -volleys played from other parts of the court are included within relevant groundstroke counts)

(Note 2: the Unforced Error Forcefulness Index is an indicator of how aggressive the average UE was. The numbers presented for these two matches are keyed on 4 categories - 20 defensive, 40 neutral, 50 attacking and 60 winner attempt)

Net Points & Serve-Volley
Federer was 12/24 (50%) at net, including...
- 2/3 (67%) serve-volleying, comprising...
- 1/2 off 1st serve and..
- 1/1 off 2nd serve

Coria was 7/13 (54%) at net, with...
- 0/1 forced back

Match Report
Hard hitting, if not very good match with bulk of points ending in errors. The two players are mostly equally error prone but Federer has extra gear with his serve and attacking shots to come out ahead

Action is hard hitting, with both players smacking their shots. Coria off both wings, Federer, mostly with FH. With that kind of play - though usually not enough to force an error in and of itself - play is at least pressuring. Its duel beatdown action, not outlasting stuff. Action varies significantly across the match

One might expect Coria to be the more consistent - and one wouldn't be wrong. UEs in play reads Federer 48, Coria 37, but there's a catch
First set is particularly poor from Fed (17 UEs) and very solid from Coria (8 UEs). For rest of match, UE counts are virtually equal (Fed 31, Coria 29) - which in context of match up (Fed stronger serve and shot making) is more than enough to be decisive. For Coria to come out ahead, he'd need to have a much larger lead in UEs

Does Federer play above himself of consistency of shot? Or Coria below, for UEs to be so close? More the latter

Baseline Numbers Explained
More than most matches, the numbers coming out of this one needs explanation

- Fed's FH error proneness. He has match high 29 UEs to go with match high 21 winners. Most obvious explanation would be Fed living and dying of his FH - but that's not what happens, as moderate 46.0 UEFI suggests (if he were living and dying of FH, UEFI would probably be higher)

For most of 2 sets, Fed's running past his BH to hit neutral FHs, let alone moving around it. That he'd even try is testament to how good his movement is. Still, its not good tennis. He makes errors trying, sacrifices court position (and Coria takes advantage, running him around) and its not even worth the candle in consistency terms. regular BH, though not as powerful a neutral shot as Coria's, holds up reasonably in cc exchanges
and there's little compensation by way of the running past FHs forcing action. He's mostly hitting neutral shots

Not smart from Fed... and it has a big hand in disproportionately high FH UEs, relative to BH.... Fed plays his best in third set, when he ceases unduely running around BHs to hit FHs

The BH isn't particular consistent in other words, its just that the FH has pinched some of he UEs from it, so to speak

BH-BH, Fed ends up with 1 fewer UE than Coria. This is deceptive. Coria's shot is more consistent and significantly heavier. Fed's at his best on BH when he throws in a mix of slices with drives. It holds up well defensively - BH-BH rallies have the feel of Coria pushing towards supremacy and Fed resisting being pushed (or being the more likely to blink). Occasionally, Coria ups the ante to beat down BH cc's and more rarely, FH inside-outs... Fed defends reasonably well

Fed's FH dominating offensively is more straightforward. There aren't many short balls to be seen - but whatever there is, he's apt to launch into. 21 FH winners - Coria has 19 winners in total. Most are cc (8), with relatively small 4 inside-out
 

Waspsting

Hall of Fame
Federer's Service Games
78% first serve points won and 59% second are excellent numbers for Fed

He does serve well - and Coria returns likewise. There's scope for improvement in Coria's consistency - 73% return rate - but its acceptable in light of what he's up against and how he returns. He's up against a handful and he returns deep and powerfully

This leaves Fed with only mild initiative off third ball much of the time. Its no easy job to nurse that small advantage to winning points. He manages - great credit to him

neutral shots are typically hard hit and deep (for both players). Nominally, they draw unforced errors... but the shots are hard enough that such errors are likely to come sooner rather than later. Still, they mostly come a bit too soon (again, by both players)... average rally length is on short side. This is a blackmark on quality of match (and both players)

When Fed does get a short return, he finishes points with FH. Doesn't get too many

Fed flirts with coming to net some. He's not very good on the volley (3 UEs) and Coria is excellent on the pass and even better in chasing down balls. Just 50% net points won by Fed, coming in just 24 times.

In nutshell, strong serving, killer finishing when opportunities for such pop up and hard hitting neutral play make up Fed's game, supported by good movement

Coria's Service Games
There's the personal touch to Coria's game. He's no cookie-cutter clay courter

To start, there's his dainty, one might say effeminate ball bouncing routine
Then there's his movement. Like water - he just flows to the ball (he slows down/eases up in fourth set)
The BH looks his stronger side - though that's possibly due to it facing weaker opposition from Fed's BH than the FH faces. He hits it with a 'pulling' motion
The FH is more like a quick, jab-slap shot

Hitting hard and deep make up his neutral shots. Occasionally, he steps it up to moving his opponent around, though rarely going as far as looking for kill shots

Strong in defence (upto the last set) and excellent on the pass

The serve though is ordinary. Just 15% unreturned rate and only 2/13 errors he's forced have been marked forced. Not strong, not weak... just ordinary. Credit to Fed for sure returning at 85% return rate... he's not faced with many genuine forceful serves, but makes almost all of them, and is consistent at putting regular serves in play with reasonable authority

Like Fed, Coria tends to start with small advantage on third ball. as 69% first serve points won indicate, he makes good use of it. Like Fed, he hits hard, deep regulation balls but lacks the firepower to get stuck into short replies. On the other hand, he's able to engage in beat-down neutral hitting from BH as well as FH (unlike Fed)

Good number of sliced returns from Fed as well. Coria doesn't cope particularly well with it and tends to hit more gently against it. Bounce is not so low that it was absolutely necessary - a small mark against Coria and at small amount of credit to Fed for the slices

Match Progression
Play starts as it continues with hard hitting rallies that usually don't last long. Fed is very error prone and ends the set with 17 UEs to Coria's 8. Coria goes mostly to BH and Fed runsaround to hit FHs to unnecessary degree

For all that, its just 1 break - the first game of the match. 3 Fed UEs (3 FHs, 1 BH) in it

Fed starts second set looking to come to net more. Finding that he loses as often as not there, he doesn't go overboard with it. Both players are error prone and Coria directs balls more than before to Fed's BH with BH cc's as well as FH longline and inside-outs

Players trade early breaks and as set wears on, Coria has better of action. Fed hangs in largely due to his serve. In first set, he'd only made 9/28 first serves (and won all 9). Here, he makes 24/33, winning 16

Against run of play, Fed breaks to love to end the set, forcing an at net Coria back to baseline where he can't make a tweener and finishing up with BHV winner after taking charge from baseline

Play shifts Fed's way in the third. First, he gets more out of his serve. Second, he stops running around to hit FHs all the time. Perhaps pressured, Coria errs some in his shot choices - he makes errors going for unnecessarily sharply angled BH cc neutral shots and to a lesser degree, FH inside-outs

Not hitting hard enough to force errors, but risky for neutral shots... the errors aren't worth it, especially in light of Fed's quick movement and defence

Couple of loose games give Fed the breaks he needs

Fourth set is a bit of a let down. After a great opening game where 2 exchange FH inside-in winners, Coria hits a net-to-net BHOH winner from a drop shot play and Fed finishes with a FH cc winner, Coria takes a medical time out. A blister on his right hand has popped, resulting in a nasty looking, bloody mess. He has the wound treated and bandaged

Coria's broken game after, and his play falls off after that. Doesn't hit as hard, misses more and doesn't even give full effort to retrieve some shots, contrary to how he'd played all match. Fed launches into the higher number of short balls coming out for the weaker play and is helped by Coria letting a few of these go unchallenged. Coria looks like he's given up about half way into set

Summing up, not a good match by a general standard but better than the numbers might make it seem. The two players combine for 47 winners, while sharing 85 UEs, and mostly short rallies. Action though is hard hitting with good depth and pressuring. Fed's at his most secure when playing balanced game across his wings, while doing damage with the serve and punishing anything short. Coria doesn't have that serve or ability to punish - and doesn't have enough of an advantage in consistency to make up the gap. He seems to give up a bit towards the end

Stats for '02 final between Federer and Marat Safin - https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...t-federer-vs-safin-hamburg-final-2002.673472/
 
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JaoSousa

Hall of Fame
Pretty low quality match, that's all I remember. Thanks for the stats by the way. I'll see if I can find a cassette of it in my house somewhere.
 

Waspsting

Hall of Fame
In 2005, Federer beat Richard Gasquet 6-3, 7-5, 7-6(4) in the final on clay

Gasquet, who was 18 years old, unseeded and ranked 56th, had beaten Federer in Monte Carlo shortly before this match

Federer won 108 points, Gasquet 92

Serve Stats
Federer...
- 1st serve percentage (67/112) 60%
- 1st serve points won (50/67) 75%
- 2nd serve points won (32/45) 71%
- Aces 4 (1 second serve), Service Winners 1
- Double Faults 4
- Unreturned Serve Percentage (32/112) 29%

Gasquet...
- 1st serve percentage (48/88) 55%
- 1st serve points won (38/48) 79%
- 2nd serve points won (24/40) 60%
- Service Winners 1
- Double Faults 3
- Unreturned Serve Percentage (18/88) 20%

Serve Patterns
Federer served...
- to FH 34%
- to BH 66%

Gasquet served...
- to FH 13%
- to BH 87%

Return Stats
Federer made...
- 67 (8 FH, 59 BH), including 1 runaround FH, 3 return-approaches & 1 drop-return
- 17 Errors, comprising...
- 9 Unforced (3 FH, 6 BH), including 1 runaround FH
- 8 Forced (1 FH, 7 BH)
- Return Rate (67/85) 79%

Gasquet made...
- 76 (27 FH, 49 BH), including 2 drop-returns
- 2 Winners (1 FH, 1 BH)
- 27 Errors, comprising...
- 13 Unforced (2 FH, 1 BH)
- 14 Forced (4 FH, 10 BH)
- Return Rate (76/108) 70%

Break Points
Federer 2/3 (2 games)
Gasquet 0/5 (3 games)

Winners (excluding serves, including returns)
Federer 33 (11 FH, 2 BH, 11 FHV, 1 FH1/2V, 5 BHV, 3 OH)
Gasquet 20 (8 FH, 7 BH, 1 FHV, 2 BHV, 2 OH)

Federer's FHs - 1 cc pass, 3 inside-out (1 at net), 4 inside-in, 1 inside-in/cc, 1 longline/inside-out and 1 running-down-drop-shot dtl at net
- BHs - 1 dtl pass and 1 drop shot

- 3 from serve-volley points - all first volleys (1 FHV, 1 BHV, 1 OH)

- 3 other, swinging FHVs
- 1 other OH came off net chord

Gasquet's FHs - 3 cc (1 return, 1 pass), 3 dtl (2 passes - 1 possibly not clean) and 2 inside-out
- BHs - 2 cc (1 pass), 3 dtl (1 return, 1 pass), 1 longline/inside-out and 1 drop shot

- 2 from serve-volley points - a first volley, FHV and a second volley, BHV

- 1 other OH was on the bounce

Errors (excluding serves and returns)
Federer 50
- 36 Unforced (15 FH, 16 BH, 2 FHV, 3 BHV)... with 2 FHs at net (1 running-down-drop-shot), 1 BH at net and 1 non-net, swinging FHV
- 14 Forced (2 FH, 9 BH, 1 FHV, 1 BHV, 1 BH1/2V)
- Unforced Error Forcefulness Index 49.7

Gasquet 40
- 24 Unforced (11 FH, 11 BH, 2 FHV)
- 16 Forced (8 FH, 8 BH)... with 1 FH running-down-drop-shot at net
- Unforced Error Forcefulness Index 47.5

(Note 1: all half-volleys refer to such shots played at net. Half -volleys played from other parts of the court are included within relevant groundstroke counts)

(Note 2: the Unforced Error Forcefulness Index is an indicator of how aggressive the average UE was. The numbers presented for these two matches are keyed on 4 categories - 20 defensive, 40 neutral, 50 attacking and 60 winner attempt)

Net Points & Serve-Volley
Federer was 35/50 (70%) at net, including
- 4/5 (80%) serve-volleying, comprising...
- 2/3 (67%) off 1st serve and...
- 2/2 off 2nd serve
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- 1/3 (33%) return-approaching

Gasquet was 16/23 (70%) at net, including..
- 5/5 (100%) serve-volleying, all 1st serves
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- 1/2 forced back

Match Report
This is also not a good match with the stats, if anything, flattering quality of play. Essentially, its an odd-bad-game/who-wins-odd-important-point match. Usually, you don't get this type of match on clay, where serve isn't too dominant. It only turns out to be so dominant here because of weak play by returners

Not only is is strange that the loser Gasquet has better of play for most of match, but that the most even of play set is the third, which is the only set with no breaks

Note break point numbers. Federer 2/3 in 2 games, Gasquet 0/5 in 3. Also, Federer serving 112 points to Gasq's 88 indicating that the winner had a significantly harder time holding serve

Federer ends up -3 on winners/UE score, Gasquet -4. Good numbers clay. Better then they look

The basic serving numbers look more like grass than hard court, let alone clay. Fed winning 75% off 1st serve points and 71% of second, Gasquet 79% and 60%. Again, nothing in conditions to justify these types of numbers

Fed grabs early break to move ahead 2-0. A good game from him with 3 winners, with Gasquet seemingly a bit nervous. Rest of set is an error fest from both, especially Fed - who looks to attack somewhat and makes errors regularly trying, while Gasquet makes more routine errors. Rally lenght is on short-ish side

Gasquet holds serve easily for rest of set. Fed is pushed to deuce twice, having to save 3 break points in one game. For the set, Fed has 14 UEs to Gasquet's 6, but also 10 winners to Gasq's 1. Net play serves Fed well - from the baseline, he misses sloppily

second set is more of the same. Gasquet serves a bit harder - his serve had been averagely non-descript in first set - and occasionally takes to stepping in and taking big cuts returning. Fed looks to play BH-BH, and usually comes of second best (i.e. is more error prone) of that side. On top of regular BH-BH rallies, he also looks to entice Gasq to net with short slices - neither play works too well for him. He's pushed to deuce 3 times while Gasq holds easily. Fed serves 44 points in the set, to Gasq's 29

A little bad patch from Gasquet settles the set, with Fed winning 10 points in a row to end it

Fed has his foot treated at end of set. Third set is best of bunch. Starting from late in the second set, Gasquet had looked to attack more, mostly with drop shots. He continues doing so with success in the third and soon shifts to winding up and hitting point endingly powerfully groundies (he'd been mostly neutral for two sets). Fed also shaves his errors and attacks via net play, largely in conjunction with strong serving

Set is even and Fed edges tiebreak to seal match
 

Waspsting

Hall of Fame
Serve & Return
The returning is more at fault than the serving is creditworthy for the heavily serve-dominated numbers

Fed serves decently, certainly not exceptionally well. Was significantly better the previous year. Just 4 aces somewhat hints at this - but his unreturned rate is a hefty 29%

That's mostly due to Gasquet's inconsistency on return. Note 13/27 return errors being marked unforced. For clay, that's not actually a bad ratio, but he's missing more than conditions justify. Gasq mixes up his returns. Occasionally, he falls back and less often, steps in to whack returns early

Fed's left with initiative after the return usually. There's a lot of 'delayed' serve-volleying from him to weak returns

Gasq's serve is on the soft side of average, with little threatening in it. 0 aces, just the 1 service winner. He does serve relentlessly to BH, directing 87% serves there

Fed's return is about average. 79% return rate isn't high for what he's up against. As is his way, he seems to struggle with consistency against average serving more than he does against powerful ones. Gasquet's serve is the kind that a strong returner could take apart. Nothing remotely close to Fed doing so - he just puts returns in play, usually neutralizingly (and Gasquet generally doesn't look to command third ball)

In this light, 79% first serve points won is a ridiculously high figure for Gasquet - almost entirely discredit Fed for it but thats' mostly about play, not the serve or return

Play - Baseline & Net
Gasquet is better player from the back, though not to the extent stats might suggest

He has fewer FH UEs (11 to 15), fewer BH UEs (11 to 16), more BH winners (7 to 2) and trails only on FH winners (8 to Federer's 11)

FEs are near equal (Gasq 16, Federer 14)... more of Gasquet's would have been forced by an at net opponent

That looks clear enough. Where its deceptively exaggerated is in the nature of Federer's approaches. Fed's at net 50 times, winning 70% (Gasq is there about half that amount, but with same winning rate). Most of Fed's approaches flow organically from taking charge from baseline. In other words, he -

- overpowers from baseline
- comes in to finish off

... as opposed to coming in from neutral situation. Fed's success at net is a product of choice baseline superiority

Fed does not play well. He looks to play hard hitting, beat down tennis, similar to the '04 final. And doesn't do it well, with errors coming at much higher rate than he draws errors. Gasquet hangs in to play solidly... he's not bad at it, but primarily, discredit Federer here

Then, for reasons best known to himself, Fed looks to keep play BH-BH. Its about equally obvious that Fed is FH > BH player and Gasquest is the opposite... why look to play BH-BH? Probably trying to make some egotistical statement. That or just very poor strategy. In any case, he comes of second best in such rallies and again, more discredit him than credit Gasquet - both for strategy and play

If he were looking to break down Gasquet's BH, one imagines FH inside-out would be a good way to start (as well as attack). He rarely does, usually going inside-in. That's quite smart since Gasq's FH looks relatively vulnerable, but doesn't fit with the strategy of playing BH-BH rallies

One way of looking at the match might be Fed playing throw-away, careless tennis in return games, the way attacking players might do on faster surfaces where regularly threatening to break isn't likely. That doesn't appear to be the case because he gets into plenty of trouble playing the exact same way on his service games too

Gasquet mostly counter-punches and looks to stay solid in face of Fed's hard hitting approach. He's good at it, with the BH in particular looking strong. He has a phase of hitting drop shots, which isn't such a good idea and he loses more than he wins doing it

In final set, Gasquet is at his most attacking and launches a number of big cut shots. In that set at least, play is even (no break points and both players serve 36 points), with Fed playing at his most consistent for the match, and taking net regularly

The big positive for Fed in the match is his net play. And more broadly, the versatility it demonstrates. Its not his day from the baseline and he regularly misses his attacking shots (note very high 49.7 UEFI). For many players, that would be that. Federer though, just switches to coming to net to give his game necessary teeth. He did something similar earlier in the year in the Miami final against another teenager Rafael Nadal

Fed actually has far more forecourt winners (20) than back court ones (13). Counting the FH1/2V as a FHV, he even has more FHV winners than FHs. This is one of his better volleying displays. Doesn't miss many (5 UEs) and is decisive in his finishing - both short and deep. It should be added that Gasquet isn't too strong on the pass and isn't able to give Fed many difficult volleys from neutral approach situations, partially due to Fed covering the net well. All credit Fed at net, just a little note about Gasq's passing not amounting to discredit

Summing up, not a good match though a competitive one. Play is riddled with loose errors, especially from Federer, whose hard hitting, BH led approach fails, while Gasquet is the more solid from the back. Good net play from Fed picks up the slack and along with advantage in serve, puts him over

Stats for pair's '06 Canadian Open final - https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...r-vs-gasquet-canadian-open-final-2006.669811/
Stats for '07 final between Federer and Rafael Nadal - https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...t-federer-vs-nadal-hamburg-final-2007.645163/
Stats for '08 final between Federer and Nadal - https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...t-nadal-vs-federer-hamburg-final-2008.672373/
 
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