Dunlop Aerogel 100?

rosewall4ever

Semi-Pro
5 sq in come on! Has any one made the math on the improved 'accuracy' one gets between 95 -90 and to even notice the difference? AG200 is good but AG100 wouldn't be worlds different. IHMO :)
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
5 sq in come on! Has any one made the math on the improved 'accuracy' one gets between 95 -90 and to even notice the difference? AG200 is good but AG100 wouldn't be worlds different. IHMO :)
I've played with both the AG100 and the AG200 and they are indeed very different. Yes, 5 sq. in. can make a noticeable difference.

Just look at the Prestige Mid and MP.
 

Azzurri

Legend
I've played with both the AG100 and the AG200 and they are indeed very different. Yes, 5 sq. in. can make a noticeable difference.

Just look at the Prestige Mid and MP.
what are the actual sizes for the racquets..I have read that the mid is actually closer to 89.5.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
what are the actual sizes for the racquets..I have read that the mid is actually closer to 89.5.
That's probably true as the hoop on the AG100 is similar in shape to that on the Prestige Mid, and is definitely a bit smaller than on the K90.
 

LafayetteHitter

Hall of Fame
A certain competitor of TW listed the 100 last week on their site with demos available. I have never ordered from them before but thought to myself well TW doesn't have it yet so I will go ahead and try a demo from the other place. I phoned the order to confirm stock. When I called they assured me the demo was in stock and available. This was midweek last week. I e-mailed on Monday morning to check for shipping info and they said it would ship that day. The charge went through on my debit Monday. Now here on Thursday my charge was credited so I called and they tell me, oh the racquet wasn't available. I politely questioned that it was in stock and supposedly logged for my order and she simply said "sorry". Yea "Sorry" is right. She said they should have called. It's pretty pitiful that people run a business in such a manner but it proves why TW dominates and is number 1. From here out I will be giving that competitor the BIRD!
 
Its a shame TW does not have this racquet I had the same issue as you with that competitor I ended up buying the racquet since there were no demos
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Can you elaborate?
This is one case in which the specs tell the whole story.

The AG100 is lighter, swings lighter, is more headlight, has a more open string pattern for more spin, is more maneuverable since it's smaller, thinner, and lighter, etc. It's a good racquet for people used to using 90 sq. in. or under racquets, if not, it may be too demanding due to the small head.
 

Azzurri

Legend
A certain competitor of TW listed the 100 last week on their site with demos available. I have never ordered from them before but thought to myself well TW doesn't have it yet so I will go ahead and try a demo from the other place. I phoned the order to confirm stock. When I called they assured me the demo was in stock and available. This was midweek last week. I e-mailed on Monday morning to check for shipping info and they said it would ship that day. The charge went through on my debit Monday. Now here on Thursday my charge was credited so I called and they tell me, oh the racquet wasn't available. I politely questioned that it was in stock and supposedly logged for my order and she simply said "sorry". Yea "Sorry" is right. She said they should have called. It's pretty pitiful that people run a business in such a manner but it proves why TW dominates and is number 1. From here out I will be giving that competitor the BIRD!
Agree with you. They don't give a crap about their customers. Check the BB and you will see what I mean. They have this policy "ship within 2 days or 48hrs" (one of the 2). I made an order on a Saturday and they shipped Wednesday. They claim it was within 2 days...WTF???:confused: I was so po'd, that I filed a complaint with BBB. How can 5 days be within 2 days? They even claimed to "guarantee" it. The BBB of course did nothing.

Here is their quote:

"All orders shipped out within two business days."

So I order Sat eve and they ship Wednesday the following week.
 
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Bud

Bionic Poster
Agree with you. They don't give a crap about their customers. Check the BB and you will see what I mean. They have this policy "ship within 2 days or 48hrs" (one of the 2). I made an order on a Saturday and they shipped Wednesday. They claim it was within 2 days...WTF???:confused: I was so po'd, that I filed a complaint with BBB. How can 5 days be within 2 days? They even claimed to "guarantee" it. The BBB of course did nothing.

Here is their quote:

"All orders shipped out within two business days."

So I order Sat eve and they ship Wednesday the following week.
They are infamously slow shipping out orders.
 

AlpineCadet

Hall of Fame
I've played with both the AG100 and the AG200 and they are indeed very different. Yes, 5 sq. in. can make a noticeable difference.

Just look at the Prestige Mid and MP.
I've also played with both sticks, and I don't think it's the 5 square inches that makes most of the difference between the two frames in comparison to the string density/static weight. The AG100 feels pretty lively and maneuverable, while the AG200 feels more solid and subdued.
 

Azzurri

Legend
I've also played with both sticks, and I don't think it's the 5 square inches that makes most of the difference between the two frames in comparison to the string density/static weight. The AG100 feels pretty lively and maneuverable, while the AG200 feels more solid and subdued.
I agree. Its more about the weight, string pattern and SW then the .5 sq inches. I have played many 98 in racquets and I shank just as many.
 

AlpineCadet

Hall of Fame
The Aerogel 1Hundred is a classic player's racquet, loaded with feel and control. The open string pattern offers excellent bite on the ball and provides a surprisingly large sweetspot for a midsized racquet. From all areas of the court this racquet provides excellent stability. Players with long, fast swings will love the way this racquet ploughs through the ball. At net the racquet feel mobile thanks to its head light balance, yet there's ample mass to punch volleys with power and to withstand heavy passing attempts. A must demo for advanced level players (NTRP 4.5+) seeking the utmost control and feel from their stick.
:)
 

Azzurri

Legend
The Aerogel 1Hundred is a classic player's racquet, loaded with feel and control. The open string pattern offers excellent bite on the ball and provides a surprisingly large sweetspot for a midsized racquet. From all areas of the court this racquet provides excellent stability. Players with long, fast swings will love the way this racquet ploughs through the ball. At net the racquet feel mobile thanks to its head light balance, yet there's ample mass to punch volleys with power and to withstand heavy passing attempts. A must demo for advanced level players (NTRP 4.5+) seeking the utmost control and feel from their stick.
:)
What do you think about the highlighted statement(red)? Most people that have tried this racquet seem to like it, but most, if not all said it was too light and lead needed to be added. I don't see how a lighter racquet in 90 sq in. form plows through anything..but I could be wrong.:)
 
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Automatix

Hall of Fame
I have to say that I haven't hit with the Pure Storm Limited but I'm sure the AG100 has more plow through than that Babolat. The swingweight is low on the AG 100 as well as the static weight but the sw from what I've read is so low on the Bab that the 100 although lighter will have more plow through.

I consider the AG 100 as a platform or a mid fo someone who is just getting to know midsized frames. Really liked the feel and the overall performance.

I wouldn't play seriously with the AG100 stock... a leather grip and some counterweight on 3&9 o'clock is a must. It would give the Dunlop a nice boost in the stability department.

But that's just me...
 

Azzurri

Legend
I have to say that I haven't hit with the Pure Storm Limited but I'm sure the AG100 has more plow through than that Babolat. The swingweight is low on the AG 100 as well as the static weight but the sw from what I've read is so low on the Bab that the 100 although lighter will have more plow through.

I consider the AG 100 as a platform or a mid fo someone who is just getting to know midsized frames. Really liked the feel and the overall performance.

I wouldn't play seriously with the AG100 stock... a leather grip and some counterweight on 3&9 o'clock is a must. It would give the Dunlop a nice boost in the stability department.

But that's just me...
That is what I have been reading. The stock form is just too light. Is the new Babolat out yet?
 
The pro shop by me just got one. The first thing the pro (who is a purist) did is to put on a leather grip. The guy keeps it real. He strung it up and let a few of us hit with it last night (3 of us w/ the pro).

It's a touch lighter than my ag200s, but it still rocks. The open pattern did not blow me away. The smaller headsize was hardly noticeable, except down at the throat...if you look pretty carefully.

Re: plow through...I like it. I could see adding 6 to 10 grams in the head. I nailed some large serves with it.

I'd rate is as one of my 3 favorite sticks out right now, along with the Babolat PS Ltd and the ag 200. I'm leaning ag200 or Ltd, since the 95 head appeals to me when dealing with big servers.
 

AlpineCadet

Hall of Fame
What do you think about the highlighted statement(red)? Most people that have tried this racquet seem to like it, but most, if not all said it was too light and lead needed to be added. I don't see how a lighter racquet in 90 sq in. form plows through anything..but I could be wrong.:)
Plow-through is subjective. If you're coming from a lighter frame, say the Dunlop AG700, then the AG100 would def. feel very stable, with plow-through.
 

routine125

New User
62 stiffness vs. 63 stiffness

hey bp,

we had a thread a little earlier regarding the stiffness of the dunlop aerogel 100s. it seems like tw got the "european" batch of dunlop aerogel 100s. in our earlier thread i brought up there were 2 different stiffness specs on the ag 100s. one with a 62 stiffness (tw's batch) and the other a 63 stiffness (the one we thought was spec'd for the USA). the one with a 63 stiffness also had a "US Patent NO" sticker on the throat as well, the 62 stiffness did not.

i know you said there wasn't a difference in playing with each of the racquets, but after further play testing of both sticks, i feel that the 62 stiffness racquet felt a little flimsy compared to the 63 stiffness racquet (not much but noticable to me), and the grip on the 62 stiffness racquet felt a little smaller than normal. the 63 stiffness racquet's grip felt true to size.

routine125
 

samster

Hall of Fame
hey bp,

we had a thread a little earlier regarding the stiffness of the dunlop aerogel 100s. it seems like tw got the "european" batch of dunlop aerogel 100s. in our earlier thread i brought up there were 2 different stiffness specs on the ag 100s. one with a 62 stiffness (tw's batch) and the other a 63 stiffness (the one we thought was spec'd for the USA). the one with a 63 stiffness also had a "US Patent NO" sticker on the throat as well, the 62 stiffness did not.

i know you said there wasn't a difference in playing with each of the racquets, but after further play testing of both sticks, i feel that the 62 stiffness racquet felt a little flimsy compared to the 63 stiffness racquet (not much but noticable to me), and the grip on the 62 stiffness racquet felt a little smaller than normal. the 63 stiffness racquet's grip felt true to size.

routine125
huh? you just confused the heck out of me! :)
 

Azzurri

Legend
Plow-through is subjective. If you're coming from a lighter frame, say the Dunlop AG700, then the AG100 would def. feel very stable, with plow-through.
stupid me..was not thinking that way. I use only those "player racquets" and forget I am in the minority.:)
 

Azzurri

Legend
hey bp,

we had a thread a little earlier regarding the stiffness of the dunlop aerogel 100s. it seems like tw got the "european" batch of dunlop aerogel 100s. in our earlier thread i brought up there were 2 different stiffness specs on the ag 100s. one with a 62 stiffness (tw's batch) and the other a 63 stiffness (the one we thought was spec'd for the USA). the one with a 63 stiffness also had a "US Patent NO" sticker on the throat as well, the 62 stiffness did not.

i know you said there wasn't a difference in playing with each of the racquets, but after further play testing of both sticks, i feel that the 62 stiffness racquet felt a little flimsy compared to the 63 stiffness racquet (not much but noticable to me), and the grip on the 62 stiffness racquet felt a little smaller than normal. the 63 stiffness racquet's grip felt true to size.

routine125
There are 2 types on AG100's??
 

Harry24

Rookie
I'm sorry for my silliness. I was only making a observation. I have hit with a midsize frame, the K90. I hated it because it was hard for me to hit the sweetspot every time. I know that better stroke mechanics and footwork would remedy that, but until then I personally need a more forgiving racquet. My point was that I have seen many players (especially juniors) with the same problem, but think that they are perhaps too good for a larger headsize.
Im sorry but I had to post on this even though its old. Im only fifteen and have playing since I was seven. My current racquet is a Babolat AeroProDrive+(no cortex).Anyway my point is taht I demoed all the kfactors and the kblade and loved every one of em. I have been playing for a while and more strokes are fairly good so it paid off to have a little weight behind my shots and tons more control from a mid-size frame.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
There are 2 types on AG100's??
No, I think there's only one. It's just that some are marked with "RA 62" and some with "RA 63" on the spec label on the frame. I've owned both and noticed no difference at all between the two. I think they just re-measured and corrected or updated the stiffness rating. TW has measured several frames and they averaged RA 62 according to the spec table on the product page.
 

routine125

New User
Hey BP,

I had 2 of each of the 62 and 63 and my feedback has come from play testing both of them for a while. I know maybe 2 of the 62's are maybe not enough to solidfy my results, but it's better than one. I'm going to give TW a call tomorrow and ask what stiffness rating is printed on the racquets. I'd also be curious to know what feedback/results the TW team had with this racquet.

routine125
 

routine125

New User
Another marked spec that is different between the 62 stifness and 63 stiffness ag 100 racquet is that in the throat were it is marked CONSTRUCTION.

On the 62 RA stiffness, the CONSTRUCTION says "M-FIL/AEROGEL"

On the 63 RA stiffness, the CONSTRUCTION says "AEROGEL/M-FIL"
 
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