***Dunlop Aerogel 1hundred (AG100) club***
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bad_call
Legend
don't say much, just give it to them to hit. then they utter positive comments...like DANG this setup is DOPE!!
KLE
Rookie
I concur with bad_call. Just gave my stick to a friend to try out cuz he was searching for a new stick to improve his game. He then ordered his the following day with overnight delivery. He kept on thanking me every time we met for a match.
Hewex
Semi-Pro
I've found this too...even my friend a pro said it was too small for him. But, he praised my play with it. This is the best I have ever played. The 4d100 feels like an extension of my arm. It's night and day between this stick and any other racquet I've tried.
eidolonshinobi
Professional
ruh roh raggy!
Hi,
I have my 4d100 modded to 12.2oz. leather grip + 5g @ 3/9. The racket is amazing in all aspects, the only issue i have with it is stability. I feel it twists a lot. Obviously that is due to me not hitting the middle, but compared to my blx90 and my APD, it has a lot more instability in that area. Anyone else experience this issue? How did you got about resolving it?
Thanks!
I have my 4d100 modded to 12.2oz. leather grip + 5g @ 3/9. The racket is amazing in all aspects, the only issue i have with it is stability. I feel it twists a lot. Obviously that is due to me not hitting the middle, but compared to my blx90 and my APD, it has a lot more instability in that area. Anyone else experience this issue? How did you got about resolving it?
Thanks!
bad_call
Legend
lead at 12, faster racquet head speed and hitting closer to the throat does the trick for this player.
actually have 2.5grams at 12. i do notice less rotation when contact closer to throat.
The Dampener
Professional
Twisting is usually a stability issue associated with volleys. Is that what you're referring to?
I can see adding weight at 12 for groundies. But if you're looking for torsional stability, 3 & 9 is the place to weight up.
I can see adding weight at 12 for groundies. But if you're looking for torsional stability, 3 & 9 is the place to weight up.
I did. Even though I've had a lot of experience over the years with adding weight to racquets, the 100 was the one stick I was not successful with. And I made many attempts, I can tell you.
Each attempt seemed to compromise some aspect of the racquet's performance and in the end I just went back to stock because that provided the blend of playing characteristics that was optimum for me.
Others have had great results, though, which is great.
I do wish Dunlop would produce a 100 Tour -- about 10-15 grams heavier, the extra weight evenly distributed, sw up around 325, and everything else the same. That would be some kind of stick!
I've tried adding lead at 3&9, but can't seem to get it not to twist if I'm off the sweet spot by a little. Guess I'm just trying to get it to be a bit more forgiving in the stability arena.
The Dampener
Professional
3&9 should do the trick, but someone here might come up with something that will work. It's a little strange, because most of us find the 100 to be very forgiving.
I did. Even though I've had a lot of experience over the years with adding weight to racquets, the 100 was the one stick I was not successful with. And I made many attempts, I can tell you.
Each attempt seemed to compromise some aspect of the racquet's performance and in the end I just went back to stock because that provided the blend of playing characteristics that was optimum for me.
Others have had great results, though, which is great.
I do wish Dunlop would produce a 100 Tour -- about 10-15 grams heavier, the extra weight evenly distributed, sw up around 325, and everything else the same. That would be some kind of stick!
very true, could not agree more... and i had the same experience about the lead...
dadozen
Hall of Fame
That's nice to see some frequent activity in here!
Some weeks ago I tried to use it in stock form, after almost a year using it with 5g @3&9, and although I liked the racquet speed off the baseline, I felt a big lack of stability on volleys and overheads.
I just got used to the higher SW. I'm using 6g now
Btw, I'll try a new stringjob: SPPP 1.18 x Tornado 1.17.
I feel that hybrids stringjobs, even poly x poly ones, help the mains move more freely. I once strung MSX Hepta Twist in the crosses and it seems that shaped polys in the crosses give a very low coefficient of friction, so since the webstore I usually buy string from doesn't carry MSV HT reels, I decided to test Tornado to check if it gives the same playing characteristcs.
I also playtested SPPP 1.18 @ 43lbs yesterday and it felt too boardy for me. Tornado seemed much softer while stringing( stretched more ) and it might give a better feel.
While my SPPP Pure 1.18 reel doesn't show up at my door, I'll be using regular SPPP. I think that SPPP Pure will give me a even better feel since it's known for being a little softer than SPPP.
Some weeks ago I tried to use it in stock form, after almost a year using it with 5g @3&9, and although I liked the racquet speed off the baseline, I felt a big lack of stability on volleys and overheads.
I just got used to the higher SW. I'm using 6g now
Btw, I'll try a new stringjob: SPPP 1.18 x Tornado 1.17.
I feel that hybrids stringjobs, even poly x poly ones, help the mains move more freely. I once strung MSX Hepta Twist in the crosses and it seems that shaped polys in the crosses give a very low coefficient of friction, so since the webstore I usually buy string from doesn't carry MSV HT reels, I decided to test Tornado to check if it gives the same playing characteristcs.
I also playtested SPPP 1.18 @ 43lbs yesterday and it felt too boardy for me. Tornado seemed much softer while stringing( stretched more ) and it might give a better feel.
While my SPPP Pure 1.18 reel doesn't show up at my door, I'll be using regular SPPP. I think that SPPP Pure will give me a even better feel since it's known for being a little softer than SPPP.
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Hewex
Semi-Pro
I saw Damp is selling some 100's. I hope he isn't abandoning us...lol.
I got my second 4d100 yesterday. It's strung at 60/56 goosen/syn gut. My pro just put Genesis Heptonic at 55 in my first one. That's the bottom of the range listed. Since I hit the ball very flat I may want to bump it up. I'm not sure about the string yet. But, he wanted me to try it out.
I got my second 4d100 yesterday. It's strung at 60/56 goosen/syn gut. My pro just put Genesis Heptonic at 55 in my first one. That's the bottom of the range listed. Since I hit the ball very flat I may want to bump it up. I'm not sure about the string yet. But, he wanted me to try it out.
bad_call
Legend
Damp is selling his AG100s, but will keep the 4D100s
wise decision...
The Dampener
Professional
I'm not going anywhere. I just don't need all these racquets.
Hewex
Semi-Pro
Ugh, I got killed, 6-0, 6-3. It was colder on my side of the court and the wind shifted against me everytime we changed ends....and the net was higher for me too....uh yeah, that's the ticket....
I played the first set with the Goosen and couldn't do anything right. But, truthfully, it was me not the string since I like that set-up indoors. Plus, my opponent was on with his serve and I was toast with mine.
The Heptonic felt a lot better. I was able to keep the ball in the court swinging out and my serve was jumping, the first half of the set anyway. My opponent was serving at 0-2, love-30 before I started giving the set and match away. In fact, I lost the last 12 points in a row. Of course, it wasn't the string, it was all me. I just got beat by a better player.
I'm going to give these both a longer try-out when I get back from San Diego next week.
I played the first set with the Goosen and couldn't do anything right. But, truthfully, it was me not the string since I like that set-up indoors. Plus, my opponent was on with his serve and I was toast with mine.
The Heptonic felt a lot better. I was able to keep the ball in the court swinging out and my serve was jumping, the first half of the set anyway. My opponent was serving at 0-2, love-30 before I started giving the set and match away. In fact, I lost the last 12 points in a row. Of course, it wasn't the string, it was all me. I just got beat by a better player.
I'm going to give these both a longer try-out when I get back from San Diego next week.
KLE
Rookie
Thanks for the updates.
KLE
Rookie
I like it though. Playing tennis is this thread all about and playing with 4D 100 racket
Hewex
Semi-Pro
I like it though. Playing tennis is this thread all about and playing with 4D 100 racket
Thanks man and I agree. I can't wait to get back out on the court. I even bought a 3 racquet 4D Aerogel bag....Plus my buddy used a Dunlop stencil on my strings. What a noob I am!
Anyone else have any other Dunlop items besides the 100?
bad_call
Legend
a good string job can keep the score a bit closer.
dadozen
Hall of Fame
Guys, this weekend I tested one of my 4D100s with a new setup:
SPPP 1.18 mains and Tornado 1.17 crosses. Also, I raised the weight in the hoop, going from 5g @ 3&9 to 6g @ 3&9 plus 2g @12.
I also removed the TW leather grip and put 13g of lead tape on the bare handle, and then finished the job with 3 overgrips( 2 Tourna original and a Gamma Dermagrip on the top ).
I really loved how the racquet performed, the added weight gave me great stability and the stringjob performed as I expected, with great control, controllable power and excellent spin - the Tornado on the crosses help the SPPP on the mains to move freely and snap back. Also, the tension stability in this setup is far better than what I was used to, so I'm probably keeping this stringjob. I have a reel of SPPP Pure coming, so I'll start using that instead of SPPP, but it will take a while yet.
I also loved how the extra 2g @12 helped me on the groundstrokes, but I think that 8g total is too much, so I'll play with 5G @ 3&9 and 2g @ 12 next time. I decided to raise the weight because I felt that the racquet was lacking a bit of mass and thus I was "overswinging" the racquet, especially on groundstrokes. I recently started playing during the weeks and working with weights at home and that must have made me handle the racquets easier.
Btw, I removed the leather grip and went with 3 OGs because I wanted to have a thinner grip, but still keepping the feel. Really liked it!
So, decided to inject 13g of silicone inside the handle, instead of using 13g of lead tape on the bare handle. You know, 13g x 5 racquets = 65g. That's almost 4 packages just to go on the handle, while silicone is much cheaper.
It's a bit hard to handle in the beginning, but when I did my second racquet it was much easier.
I still need to inject the silicone in 3 more racquets, but when I finish the job I'll be able to say that I have 5 Pro Stock 4[D]100s. :lol:
SPPP 1.18 mains and Tornado 1.17 crosses. Also, I raised the weight in the hoop, going from 5g @ 3&9 to 6g @ 3&9 plus 2g @12.
I also removed the TW leather grip and put 13g of lead tape on the bare handle, and then finished the job with 3 overgrips( 2 Tourna original and a Gamma Dermagrip on the top ).
I really loved how the racquet performed, the added weight gave me great stability and the stringjob performed as I expected, with great control, controllable power and excellent spin - the Tornado on the crosses help the SPPP on the mains to move freely and snap back. Also, the tension stability in this setup is far better than what I was used to, so I'm probably keeping this stringjob. I have a reel of SPPP Pure coming, so I'll start using that instead of SPPP, but it will take a while yet.
I also loved how the extra 2g @12 helped me on the groundstrokes, but I think that 8g total is too much, so I'll play with 5G @ 3&9 and 2g @ 12 next time. I decided to raise the weight because I felt that the racquet was lacking a bit of mass and thus I was "overswinging" the racquet, especially on groundstrokes. I recently started playing during the weeks and working with weights at home and that must have made me handle the racquets easier.
Btw, I removed the leather grip and went with 3 OGs because I wanted to have a thinner grip, but still keepping the feel. Really liked it!
So, decided to inject 13g of silicone inside the handle, instead of using 13g of lead tape on the bare handle. You know, 13g x 5 racquets = 65g. That's almost 4 packages just to go on the handle, while silicone is much cheaper.
It's a bit hard to handle in the beginning, but when I did my second racquet it was much easier.
I still need to inject the silicone in 3 more racquets, but when I finish the job I'll be able to say that I have 5 Pro Stock 4[D]100s. :lol:
KLE
Rookie
and what kind of silicone & purchase it where? Thx DAD12.
Dominik
Rookie
What I would do is tare the scale with the racket on top of it already. Then inject (you can take it off each time or leave it on), making sure to stop when the scale hits 13.
NOTE: You need a postage scale for this (or similar).
dadozen
Hall of Fame
Hood, I injected the silicone little by little, and kept weighing the racquet in between. The silicone came in 50g tubes, so I couldn't weight it before injecting.
KLE, I live in Brazil so the product name is different, but you can use any silicone glue. You have to leave it curing for a while
KLE, I live in Brazil so the product name is different, but you can use any silicone glue. You have to leave it curing for a while
The Dampener
Professional
What happens when you want to remove the silicone?
The Dampener
Professional
But I'm pretty sure about what I'm doing
Famous last words of the racquet tweaker.
dadozen
Hall of Fame
My girlfriend would agree with you, Damp
But since I decided to give up on leather grips, I wanted to compensate the loss of weight with silicone.
The Dampener
Professional
Does the weight of the silicone change as it cures?
Nextman916
Professional
dadozen you injected silicone to only the handle? Not into the entire frame right?
dadozen
Hall of Fame
Not at all Damp. It remains the same.
Only inside the handle. I just hope it doesn't get all over the racquet, but I've used cotton balls before injecting the silicone to prevent that.
KLE
Rookie
I always put some overgrip on therefore I don't care one grip's brand from another. The reason to replace it with leather grip is to raise the racket overall weight. DAD12 just came up with a new way to increase racket weight without using leather grip. Damned ... more pressure now to follow DAD12 's foot steps
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Hewex
Semi-Pro
I always put some overgrip on therefore I don't care one grip's brand from another. The reason to replace it with leather grip is to raise the racket overall weight. DAD12 just came up with a new way to increase racket weight without using leather grip. Damned ... more pressure now to follow DAD12 's foot steps
I'm not huge on leather or overgrips for that matter. I just went away from the latter and while I may use them again at some point, for now I'm playing without them.
On the silicone....I would likely destroy my 100's, LOL...so I'll leave that for the experts.
