***Dunlop Aerogel 1hundred (AG100) club***

Would love to take it off your hands, but we're different grip sizes. Care to comment at all on the stick's performance?[/QUOTE]

Damn-what is your grip size?
The racket is fairly string sensitive but I find it to be ideal for flat hitting and the racket is control orientated but with plenty of power when you swing right. My favourite stroke with this racket is the serve- previously a lot of my serves would land just out and now they just sneak in!
 
geese_com said:
I strung my own racquets up, but Cyberflash in the mains and PSGM in the crosses at around 50lbs was only lasting me 4-5hours tops. It was getting old, stringing these up several times a week.
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Yeah, that seems extreme. I use 18s in my frame and get more time out of them than that. I'm guessing you're a fairly heavy hitter.

bowchikawow said:
Damn-what is your grip size?...The racket is fairly string sensitive but I find it to be ideal for flat hitting and the racket is control orientated but with plenty of power when you swing right. My favourite stroke with this racket is the serve- previously a lot of my serves would land just out and now they just sneak in!
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4-1/4. And your description makes the BM100 sound just like its predecessors.

bad_call said:
had 3 different racquets in the bag when playing. hit with all three but it took the 4D100 to win the set...go figure.
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That's what friends are for.
 
The Dampener said:
Yeah, that seems extreme. I use 18s in my frame and get more time out of them than that. I'm guessing you're a fairly heavy hitter.QUOTE]

Yeah, I guess you can say that I am a pretty heavy hitter. People I play with always tell me that I should work the point more. The issue is I don't have THAT much endurance, so I prefer to go for winners. :)
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Played doubles yesterday and my opponent commented on my 100. He said that he didn't see many 100's around and complimented my McEnroe-like volleys. I thanked him for ignoring my 2.5-like returns of serves...He recently switched from the 4d Aerogel 500 back to the 200. Not sure which which version he had....it was blue and white, very light blue and their appeared to be more white than blue. It's fun to run into fellow Dunlop fanatics because they seem to know their gear better than most.
 
That must be the 16 x 19 version of the 200, the predecessor of the Bio Lite; wonder how it plays. The Lite has been garnering lots of positive reviews of late.
 
Time for new string

I am getting close to needing my first re-string of my 4D100. Ordered from TW originally last August with Klip Legend 16g, I think @ 59 lbs.

I'm hoping to reduce string movement (I hate that) and get just a little bit more control. Any opinions/advice on whether to:

(1) stay with 16g and just up the tension? IF SO, How much?

(2) switch to 15g or 15L? IF SO, How much tension?

ps: I usually get 6-12 months from Klip Legend full bed (playing 1-2 times per week year round).

Thanks in advance for any input!
 
Bigtime, I've never used 15s, so I can't comment on that. But you can reduce movement and increase control with higher tension. Though your tension is already at the higher end of what most AG100s use. Try a few pounds higher, and see how it works. You can also choose a stiffer string. I use nylon in my crosses and soft polys in the mains, and that helps a lot with string movement.
 
geese_com said:
I am sad to say that I traded my last AG100. It was an excellent racquet, I just couldn't keep strings on there long enough to make it worth it.
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yes! thats my problem too. i strung mine with cf 16/ogsm 17 at 46/45 and i had to string it weekly for optimal performance. i have no problem after it gets bad and all springy but i'm going to try at higher tension to see how well it plays after it settles down.

have you consider trying multi or sg instead of changing rackets?
im doing addiction 16/osgm 17 at 49/49 right now and after it settles it feels pretty tight but the same time too springy. too much elasticity. im not liking the string movements on this setup.
 
how much are ag100s selling for these days? I just bought one off the bay for under 30 pounds. Have they really depreciated in price that much!?
 
That's actually a pretty good price for one Ag100. Given the fact that there are already two newer iterations available in Europe, the price will end up being much lower than it was released.
 
I guess the jury is still out re which is the "best" version of this racket? Since now there are three versions of the 1 hundred.
 
Thanks Damp.

I think I'll stick with the 16 and just up the tension by only 1-2 lbs., for just a touch more control. I'm thinking my string movement issue is cropping up due to the existing string job being near the end of it's lifespan.
 
I just got myself a secondhand Biomimetic 100 strung with Signum Pro Tornado - dunno about its gauge and string tension, but by comparing to my friend's Tornado I think they are 18 and 57 lbs. I also dunno about how the racquet was used before, but it was still in perfect condition for my Bio100. Does that mean Bio100 is less sensitive to string tension?

Btw, is this a proper place for Bio100 player owner to discuss things? I couldn't find a Bio100 club thread.
 
roundiesee said:
Yes, I would like to know too. My AG 100 seems very string sensitive and tension sensitive as well; great in one session but not so great when the tension drops at the next session. :(
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the B5E hybrid is holding up ok but can already see notching on the mains. no worries tho cause "on demand spin" troubles the opponent and usually gets the point. i'll take the wins over string durability at this point. ;)
 
sepidoel said:
Glad to hear that, thanks. :)

Then as I have eastern FH and 1 HBH, can anyone give me opinion which one is more suitable for Bio100: full bed multi, full bed poly or hybrid (main poly cross multi OR main multi cross poly)?
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With an eastern FH grip, it sounds like heavy topspin is not a big part of your game. Besides, the 100s can generate excellent spin in its own right. So full poly is unnecessary, imo.

In increasing order of spin potential and decreasing order of comfort:

- full multi
- multi mains/poly crosses
- poly mains/multi crosses

I've tried #1 and #3 in my AG 100s and liked them.
 
Bigtime said:
I am getting close to needing my first re-string of my 4D100. Ordered from TW originally last August with Klip Legend 16g, I think @ 59 lbs.

I'm hoping to reduce string movement (I hate that) and get just a little bit more control. Any opinions/advice on whether to:

(1) stay with 16g and just up the tension? IF SO, How much?

(2) switch to 15g or 15L? IF SO, How much tension?

ps: I usually get 6-12 months from Klip Legend full bed (playing 1-2 times per week year round).

Thanks in advance for any input!
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I'm using Head Tournament 15L (a cheap nylon) at 50 lbs and it feels great. Don't be afraid to try thicker gauges on this racquet.
 
Damp, that's exactly the point. With thinner strings, I got so much bite that the ball trajectory was unpredictable sometimes. So I used thicker gauges( such as 1.22 ) to solve that.
 
dadozen said:
Damp, that's exactly the point. With thinner strings, I got so much bite that the ball trajectory was unpredictable sometimes. So I used thicker gauges( such as 1.22 ) to solve that.
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I had a similar experience, especially coming from the KBlade Tour. I used 17 gauge for that, and there was still nowhere near as much spin as my current setup (15L on a 4D100).
 
So if that is the case, then what good will thinner string bring for Dunlop 100 series?

Keifers said:
With an eastern FH grip, it sounds like heavy topspin is not a big part of your game. Besides, the 100s can generate excellent spin in its own right. So full poly is unnecessary, imo.

In increasing order of spin potential and decreasing order of comfort:

- full multi
- multi mains/poly crosses
- poly mains/multi crosses

I've tried #1 and #3 in my AG 100s and liked them.
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Yesterday I cut the 4th case (full poly, which gave me shoulder pain) and installed the 1st case (Prince Premier Softlex 17 @60lbs). The result was great feel, comfort and power, but minimal spin that caused a lot of long shots. Today I cut the string and strung my racquet with 3rd case (using the used Prince and Polystar Energy 17 @60lbs). Initial result by hitting on the wall was very good,wish it's also the same on court.

Thanks for sharing. :)
 
sepidoel said:
So if that is the case, then what good will thinner string bring for Dunlop 100 series?
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Sep, guess it all depends on what we're looking for. Unlike our friends above, I like the added spin. I use 18s, and my control doesn't seem to suffer at all. In fact, one of the 100s primary benefits is its control. I've never felt out of control, using 16s, 17s, or 18s.

But that's just me.
 
sepidoel said:
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Yesterday I cut the 4th case (full poly, which gave me shoulder pain) and installed the 1st case (Prince Premier Softlex 17 @60lbs). The result was great feel, comfort and power, but minimal spin that caused a lot of long shots. Today I cut the string and strung my racquet with 3rd case (using the used Prince and Polystar Energy 17 @60lbs). Initial result by hitting on the wall was very good,wish it's also the same on court.

Thanks for sharing. :)
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Hope that works well for you.

As a side note, many of us 100 players ended up preferring tensions in the mid-50s -- more comfort and feel but still plenty of control. We found higher tensions made the stringbed feel very boardy.

So I strung #1 at 55 and #3 at 51/53. Do you think lower tensions might make the Bio 100 even better for you?
 
Thanks for your guys input.

The Dampener said:
Sep, guess it all depends on what we're looking for. Unlike our friends above, I like the added spin. I use 18s, and my control doesn't seem to suffer at all. In fact, one of the 100s primary benefits is its control. I've never felt out of control, using 16s, 17s, or 18s.

But that's just me.
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I've been using 17s all this time and and never felt anything out of control (thanks to the 100), and as like yours I got great spin out of it. Well then I don't think I have the need to change the gauge.

Keifers said:
Hope that works well for you.

As a side note, many of us 100 players ended up preferring tensions in the mid-50s -- more comfort and feel but still plenty of control. We found higher tensions made the stringbed feel very boardy.

So I strung #1 at 55 and #3 at 51/53. Do you think lower tensions might make the Bio 100 even better for you?
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Yesterday when I used full bed Premier @60 (multi) it didn't feel boardy at all. But before, when I used full bed Tornado (poly) @57 (approximate), I got shoulder pain (it wasn't to the point of being boardy, but quite stiff). So I think the string greatly impact the stiffness, and if I'm not wrong Dunlop suggest to use multi instead of poly.

I tried to use #3 @50/52 on my Prince Rebel before (Wilson Hollow Core Pro & Luxilon Adrenaline) and I must say that setup just isn't for me. It felt good after freshly strung, but when the tension dropped I felt the string bed to be too loose (I got poor feel instead of great comfort). So my conclusion is to have at least 55 lbs tension and I can get great setup for quite a while.
 
false-logic said:
I'm using Head Tournament 15L (a cheap nylon) at 50 lbs and it feels great. Don't be afraid to try thicker gauges on this racquet.
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Thanks for the encouragement to try thicker strings. I love the ultra control of my KBT, however it's hard on my shoulder, and I can't get near the pop on serves. Hopefully 15L in my 4D100 will be just the right combination of power and control. I'm also wanting to drastically reduce string movement as well.
 
Bigtime said:
Thanks for the encouragement to try thicker strings. I love the ultra control of my KBT, however it's hard on my shoulder, and I can't get near the pop on serves. Hopefully 15L in my 4D100 will be just the right combination of power and control. I'm also wanting to drastically reduce string movement as well.
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Want minimal string movement (i.e., having to straighten strings) but still great playability?

Try a hybrid with a very smooth-surface gut in the mains and a very smooth-surface poly in the crosses, the crosses ~4 lbs lower tension.
 
The Biomimetics Are Coming?????

I noticed several retailers just simultaneously dropped the price on 4D 100s to $99.

My guess is the BM100s aren't far behind...
 
Wow, now this new price is tempting. I already have the AG100 though - is it worth picking up the 4D as an extra if only because I have such a good impression of the AG100? :D
 
gocard said:
Wow, now this new price is tempting. I already have the AG100 though - is it worth picking up the 4D as an extra if only because I have such a good impression of the AG100? :D
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Yes, it is. I'd get another, but I have plenty. Still have 2 AG100s as well.
 
I'm quite certain that the 100 line is "the one" frame for me. And now that the Bio 100 has the paintjob I've been waiting for, that's the one I want to stock up on with extra frames. HOWEVER, at the reduced price, I may just have to get at least one more 4D100, just in case I don't like the Bio100 as well.
I'm sure the Bio will play just as well, the only thing that I'm slightly concerned about is the feeling of the AeroSkin in my off hand while in the ready postion.
 
Bigtime said:
...the only thing that I'm slightly concerned about is the feeling of the AeroSkin in my off hand while in the ready postion.
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Shoot, I never thought of that, BT.

Suddenly, I'm a little concerned about the feeling of the AeroSkin in your off hand as well.
 
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The Dampener said:
Shoot, I never thought of that, BT.

Suddenly, I'm a little concerned about the feeling of the AeroSkin in your off hand while as well.
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Hey all, I've been patiently waiting for the Bio100 myself since it was released in Europe such a long time ago...

As for the Aeroskin in the off hand; it actually feels really cool! I'm not sure if anyone else has any reptilian pets, but it feels basically like that. Very smooth, but a little bumpy. It's like petting little lizards between every point! :D (I play with the Bio300Tour right now)

Trust me, it's really not as noticeable as I make it sound LOL! You don't really even notice it, but I think it's a cool little feature regardless.

-Fuji
 
I totally agree with Fuji. IMO the Aeroskin is one of the nicest feature of BM, and I kinda think that also brings a little more stability in swing.
 
OK, you're right, I'm sure the AeroSkin will be fine. My love of the color green will most likely out-weigh the slight difference in feel anyway.
 
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