***Dunlop Aerogel 1hundred (AG100) club***

A couple of follow up points regarding an earlier discussion about how the AG100 and 4D100 compare. I realize now that the 4 1/2" handles for each racquet are the same. Both my of my two AG100s have HydraMax grips installed without the tan adhesive tape strip ( not without the gray cushion strip, as I said earlier). That underlying, tan adhesive strip seems real thin, but it definitely effects the feel of, and perceived size of the grip. With the same grip setups the AG100, and 4D100 4 1/2" handles feel the same to me. Further, matching the grip setups brought the balance of the demo 4D100, and the one AG100 of mine I measured, much closer to each other - to within a 1/16" , or so. The demo 4D is still just slightly more headlight, but the AG100 of mine I measured is strung with what i think are slightly heavier strings ( VS Gut with Lux BB Original in crosses vs synthetic ). Both results make me happy as for me the AG100 4 1/2" handle with a HydraMax Tour grip - sans adhesive strip, and a VS Original overgrip (=very thin) is close to ideal, and I've been liking the AG100's balance pretty well. I'm glad to know I can still have both attributes in the 4D100.
 
Since my last post I compared the demo 4D100 and my Ag100 as to racquet length. To my surprise the 4D100 is a good 1/8" longer than either of my AG100s! Has anyone else noticed this difference?
 
Can anyone who has seen a Bio100 in person, up close, comment on whether you can still see a glimpse of the carbon fibre showing through the paintjob near where the throat meets the handle like you can on the 4D100?
 
jack hoyer said:
Since my last post I compared the demo 4D100 and my Ag100 as to racquet length. To my surprise the 4D100 is a good 1/8" longer than either of my AG100s! Has anyone else noticed this difference?
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lol. i noticed that it's a bit longer too, that is why it appears to be narrower than the AG100. but the width is the same tho.
 
Yes, the the demo 4D is longer than either of my AG100s, but its' more narrow hoop is not just an illusion. When I hold the 4D up against either of my AG100s with the AG100 on top I can see I/8" of the 4D hoop on the left and right sides. The 4D demo hoop is about 1/4" narrower than the hoop of either of my AG100s. It is also longer. If I align the tops of the hoops, and turn the racquets the over so the 4D is on top I can see about 1/4" of the bottom of the AG100 hoop. It has been suggested that these observed differences could be due to differences in string jobs. Maybe, but I'm not convinced. My two Ag100s are strung a bit differently from each other with different strings, and they both show the same hoop shape. They both differ from the 4D to the same extent, and in the same way. I suppose the demo 4D might have an extreme, or unusual, string job that has distorted it. If others that have both racquets could hold them against each other, and align them, and report on what they see, it would be helpful.
 
Bigtime said:
Can anyone who has seen a Bio100 in person, up close, comment on whether you can still see a glimpse of the carbon fibre showing through the paintjob near where the throat meets the handle like you can on the 4D100?
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To answer your question, no there is no carbon fibre showing through on the Bio100 like on the 4D. The paintjob is matte black with green and gray decals on top of that.
 
I JOIN YOU!

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Damp, I've definitely moved on( sold all my 4D100s ).

Although I miss playing with the 4D100s, the BM200s fit my game much better. The confidence is back:)
 
Can anyone do a comparison of the ag100 and kblade tour? Would you say its more demanding? I'm looking for a midsize frame with an open string pattern.
 
I still have my 100's, but am experimenting with some other racquets. My results this summer are so bad that I have to try something else. The funny thing is that the 100's feel amazing, and when I hit them well there is nothing that compares. The problem is I'm not consistent enough to get the full benefit of this beauty. I'm not leaving the club because I love these too much. I just need some confidence back and a more forgiving frame should do that for me.
 
^ technique and court positioning need to be spot on to get the best results from the 4D100. can be a bit demanding in that regard.
 
Absolutely my technique and footwork are lacking and unfortunately my results don't reflect how great this stick is. I'm holding onto the two I have, but am going to experiment with a few 95si sticks.
 
Hey AG100 fans, I'm looking to expand my collection - can anyone give me some direct compare/contrast input between the 4D100 and any of the frames I currently own:

Head Pres Mid
PK Redondo C93
KPS88

Thanks!
 
I have two AG 100's (Non-4D!) on the way. Can't wait to hit with them and join the club.

I am playing with the MG Prestige Mid now, but I think the lower weight and more open string pattern will be good for my game (and my shoulder). Very excited to try these out. I'm thinking about starting out with a BHBR 17g hybrid or full bed in the mid 50's.
 
mrtrinh said:
I look forward to it! since the 4D100 are on sale might pick up a pair:twisted:
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PROS of the KBT:
pinpoint accuracy/control
outstanding at net (volleys & half-volleys)
very little string movement

CONS of the KBT:
a little hard on my shoulder
can't get much serve velocity
feels heavier to swing than 4D100
just slightly too demanding for me (underpowered)

PROS of the 4D100:
huge sweetspot for a small frame
plenty of serve velocity
just right balance of power to control
better access to topspin (more forgiving aiming for depth)

CONS of the 4D100:
little more string movement
needs lead to be more solid (especially for volleys)

DISCLAIMER: Your results WILL vary!
 
I'm in. Just bought a 4D 100 from a local store because it was on sale (and always curious about this beauty). I know I should demo first but I couldn't help myself. Will take it out tomorrow and report back.
 
Sadly I've had to leave this club :( I did like this frame a lot but unfortunately I was not able to custom it/string it to my satisfaction. It really is just me and not the racket. I think I'm strangely more suited to heavier rackets like the KPS 88 and the PS 85 (both of which I shall be using for the time being). But I shall pop in and "lurk" every once in a while to see what you guys are up to :) Debate still to be decided- which version of the 1hundred is the best?
 
Just picked up a Biomimetic 100 a few weeks ago (had to get it over seas since its going to be a while for it to hit the states) and really like it. As expected not a big difference in performance from the AG100 or the 4D100. The cosmetics are definitely strange, the surface reminds me of lizard skin.
 
Sanford said:
Just picked up a Biomimetic 100 a few weeks ago (had to get it over seas since its going to be a while for it to hit the states) and really like it. As expected not a big difference in performance from the AG100 or the 4D100. The cosmetics are definitely strange, the surface reminds me of lizard skin.
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Can you elaborate a bit more on any differences you're noticing between the Biomimetic 100 and the AG100 and 4D? How do they compare as to feel - both on ball impact and to swing? Thanks, Jack
 
String Tension For 4D100

I'm going to grab at least one more 4D100 while the price is right. I've been using full Klip Legend 16g for the past few years and have had good success.
I've had the mains & crosses strung same tension (57 lbs-ish).

What are your opinion(s) about having differing tensions between the mains & crosses?
Which way would reduce string movement, and which way would provide more/less power vs. more/less control?
How much difference in tension might I try?

(Remember, I'm asking about full bed of gut, not hybrid). I know :oops: I'm "old school".
 
i flared my first 4D100 grommets a while back and now finally got to hit with it last week for the first time. feels great! feels about the same as the AG100 especially when hit right on. i feel like i would appreciate this frame more if i was playing at the 5.0 level, too bad i don't. more noticeable dampening than the AG100 too. make me feel like i need to get another while i can.
 
got an AG100 and strung it up with B5E/(test poly) at 48/52. only briefly hit but was impressed with the pop and spin. think the 4D version beats the AG version in stability but maneuverability goes to the AG. need match play with the AG but like it thus far.

btw - both leaded at 12 (personal preference) and weigh the same on the scale.
 
bad_call said:
got an AG100 and strung it up with B5E/(test poly) at 48/52. only briefly hit but was impressed with the pop and spin. think the 4D version beats the AG version in stability but maneuverability goes to the AG. need match play with the AG but like it thus far.

btw - both leaded at 12 (personal preference) and weigh the same on the scale.
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Good to know. I'll let you know how my BHBR/MCS plays. How much lead do you have on your AG100? I like how maneuverable this racquet is in stock form, but I think I will need lead for more stability. I just got 2 AG100's and I just put 1/4" lead tape from the 6th cross down to the 13th cross down on one of them. I haven't played with it yet, but I'm going to throw a Babolat Leather grip and an OG on and see how it goes. :)
 
The Djoker said:
Good to know. I'll let you know how my BHBR/MCS plays. How much lead do you have on your AG100? I like how maneuverable this racquet is in stock form, but I think I will need lead for more stability. I just got 2 AG100's and I just put 1/4" lead tape from the 6th cross down to the 13th cross down on one of them. I haven't played with it yet, but I'm going to throw a Babolat Leather grip and an OG on and see how it goes. :)
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think it's like 3 grams at 12...two strips 3" long laid on top of each other.
 
bad_call said:
got an AG100 and strung it up with B5E/(test poly) at 48/52. only briefly hit but was impressed with the pop and spin. think the 4D version beats the AG version in stability but maneuverability goes to the AG. need match play with the AG but like it thus far.

btw - both leaded at 12 (personal preference) and weigh the same on the scale.
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Check the SW?

Maybe thats why the AG feels more maneuverablee
 
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I remember that TW listed the SW of the AG100 at 312 and of the 4D at 308.

The 4D100 indeed felt more maneuverable, while more stable and a tad stiffer than the AG100. Both were great racquets though.
 
dadozen said:
I remember that TW listed the SW of the AG100 at 312 and of the 4D at 308.

The 4D100 indeed felt more maneuverable, while more stable and a tad stiffer than the AG100. Both were great racquets though.
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recall seeing the 312 for the AG. racquetfinder has 324...tend to think the 312 is correct.
 
hoodjem said:
^^^Any greater weight or more stability to the AG4D100?
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both my AG100 and 4D100 has the same lead setup around the hoop; difference is my 4D100 has leather and my AG100 doesn't which alter the feeling of the sw a lot for me. my 4D100 is 4g heavier and so far stability seems the same (at my level) but don't know about maneuverability since i didn't spend much time at net as i should. once in a while we all experience our 5.0+ hit moments, so for me 4D100 feels much much more stable at a higher swing speed. overall i prefer the 4D100.
 
CHOcobo said:
...so for me 4D100 feels much much more stable at a higher swing speed. overall i prefer the 4D100.
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having similar experience tho it could be the strings. going to match string setups between the 4D and AG for more testing.

The Djoker - any thoughts on your BHBR/MCS string setup?
 
Hello AG100 club,

Can't wait to hit my new 4D100, just waiting for strings to arrive. The stick feels great in my hands, but what's up with the PJ? Even as a guy, I can tell that black/gold does not go with the light azure blue (or whatever) color on the top and bottom of the hoop.
 
thug the bunny said:
Hello AG100 club,

Can't wait to hit my new 4D100, just waiting for strings to arrive. The stick feels great in my hands, but what's up with the PJ? Even as a guy, I can tell that black/gold does not go with the light azure blue (or whatever) color on the top and bottom of the hoop.
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maybe didn't consult with Chip Foose...pj ok with me tho.
 
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