***Dunlop Aerogel 1hundred (AG100) club***

@morten - so the racquet had .5 g @ 3, .5 g @ 9, .5 g @ the "Y" on the inside of the throat with head tape running from 3 to 9.

My brother really liked it. He said it felt really solid. The instability issues where non-existent. He even took it a step further and said that he likes it better than his 200 which is saying lots as he really enjoys the 200. On the 200 he has OG Micro 17 while the 100s have TNT Touch 17.

Thanks for your time.
 
djNEiGht, sadly, dunlop racquets do not have pallets; they have molded foam handles that are already pretty rounded out, making build-up pretty tough.
 
@The Djoker - bad for me but good for my brother that he is happy with his 100s now. One guy I hit with buys 1 size smaller on purpose just to build up with a shrink wrap to proper size and added weight. i felt the handle and it wasn't too bad i worked for him. I'm sure a 2 size build up would be too much.

till then...keeping an eye out for one in my size. cheers
 
I just have a head hydrosorb grip and a pacafic xtr OG on my AG100's, and I can barely feel the bevels. it's kind of annoying, but I don't notice too much when i'm playing
 
djNEiGht said:
bad call - how much of a build up would the bevels be compromised?
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haven't had issue with that when using first aid tape that's about the width of each flat side ( < 1/2 inch or so ). apply the strip to a side from the bottom of the handle up to the top lengthwise as needed. note there are a total of 8 flat sides. heat shrink grip sleeves tend to round the bevels where this method doesn't appear to do.
 
Well, I've left my other flings and gone back to this beauty. For the main reason that I've gone old school with my strokes, more low to high and follow through at the target on both sides with an eastern grip. This stick gives me amazing control and more pop than I was getting with larger racquets and a modern approach. In practice with my ball machine, I've gone from hitting 8-12 balls into the net the modern way to 2 balls with my old school approach(flatter). Serves....I'd forgotten how precise and how much spin I could get.

It's like coming home again...
 
Hewex said:
Well, I've left my other flings and gone back to this beauty. For the main reason that I've gone old school with my strokes, more low to high and follow through at the target on both sides with an eastern grip. This stick gives me amazing control and more pop than I was getting with larger racquets and a modern approach. In practice with my ball machine, I've gone from hitting 8-12 balls into the net the modern way to 2 balls with my old school approach(flatter). Serves....I'd forgotten how precise and how much spin I could get.

It's like coming home again...
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re-admission requires demo of the Bio 100 and posted report. :)
 
QUOTE: "It's like coming home again..."

Welcome back!:)

I agree with your comments about "old school" hitting. I'm always reminding myself (after I dump a FH into the net), that I can't hit the Rafa style forehand. The accuracy of the 4D100 works well for more flat hitting.
 
I Can't seem to find the 2 PC Stringing instructions for the Aerogel 4D 100 16X19. Are you starting mains at the head or throat? Thanks for your help
 
My 1st attempt was starting the mains at the head. (Yes, there was a first failed attempt) The mains strung up nicely and tied off at 6H. After that the 1st cross was so blocked that I could not get near the 1st cross hole 7H. Ended up damaging and breaking a main while trying to create an opening. I was hoping someone could give me their 2pc stringing method. Any help would be appreciated.
 
Jdchi said:
My 1st attempt was starting the mains at the head. (Yes, there was a first failed attempt) The mains strung up nicely and tied off at 6H. After that the 1st cross was so blocked that I could not get near the 1st cross hole 7H. Ended up damaging and breaking a main while trying to create an opening. I was hoping someone could give me their 2pc stringing method. Any help would be appreciated.
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You have four covered holes on this frame. Cut yourself four short strings, maybe 6 inches or so, and place them under the mains when stringing. When you get to the crosses, you can slide main covering the covered hole out of the way by pulling on both ends of the short string. Once you've threaded, then simply slip the short string out. It's really easy.
 
Bigtime said:
QUOTE: "It's like coming home again..."

Welcome back!:)

I agree with your comments about "old school" hitting. I'm always reminding myself (after I dump a FH into the net), that I can't hit the Rafa style forehand. The accuracy of the 4D100 works well for more flat hitting.
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I tried to go western with the 4D. Now I'm paying for it. My own fault, though. I started using a western grip on the ball machine, and all that repetitive stress lead to a wrist injury that put me on the shelf for two months now.

Kids, stay in school. Geezers, stay old school. ; )
 
Thanks for the link. Looks like I was on the right track. I'll just have to find a creative way to avoid the traffic/blocked holes after stringing the mains. Thanks again...
 
i just got my 4D100 demo yesterday and played. I'm a SHB and i'm very impressed how this stick can improve my backband returns--it feels like always hitting on the sweetspots!!

I heard the suggested tension 55-65 is too high is that right? Is it more like 50-60?

Also came with the demo is the Djokers' YOUTEK IG Speed. I think this is my first time I tried 18x20 (dont lough me). I'm a flat hitter and heard I should go with 18X2. The forehand of this HEAD stick feels very good.

Now a little bit of dont know which one of these two to choose...any suggestions?

Thanks,
 
Jdchi said:
Great idea jbhungvt. I've been stringing my own racquets for quite some time. I should have gotten one of these a long time ago. It might have saved me from a few headaches..
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An awl is helpful, but that short string method I gave you is bulletproof. Awls are tricky when you string at higher tensions, and when trying to move a tight string with that sharp point, you risk nicking the main.
 
The Dampener said:
You have four covered holes on this frame. Cut yourself four short strings, maybe 6 inches or so, and place them under the mains when stringing. When you get to the crosses, you can slide main covering the covered hole out of the way by pulling on both ends of the short string. Once you've threaded, then simply slip the short string out. It's really easy.
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Thanks for the tip. This sounds like a great way to avoid or minimize the problem of blocked holes. I'm going to try this tonight.
 
an awl is good enough. i spend max time of about 4-5 seconds getting it through.

anyone know a better string setup than cyber flash 16/ogsm 17 (45/47) for the 4D100? i want to try cyber flash 17 next. cf 16 stiffen up a bit.
 
I just got a Bio 100, aqua-black, from Dunlop's booth at Thailand Open. I wanted the green & black but there isn't any 4 3/8. Only the aqua-black was available in 4 3/8.

Holding it in hand feels pretty solid. Have yet to play to comment.

BTW, the promotion was good. It costs me THB 3,500 (about USD 117) and it comes with a big green-black Bio bag (which retails for more than the racket!)
 
I heard the suggested tension 55-65 is too high is that right? Is it more like 50-60?
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I had my last one strung @ 59 lbs.---HOWEVER it is full bed Klip Legend 15L. This is yielding just the right balance of control vs. power for me.

Old school hitting though, (flat, with minimal net clearance).
 
Bigtime said:
I had my last one strung @ 59 lbs.---HOWEVER it is full bed Klip Legend 15L. This is yielding just the right balance of control vs. power for me.

Old school hitting though, (flat, with minimal net clearance).
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BT, you string 15g @ 59? I'm impressed. I string 18g @ 46. Guess that demonstrates the 100's versatility.
 
anirut said:
I just got a Bio 100, aqua-black, from Dunlop's booth at Thailand Open. I wanted the green & black but there isn't any 4 3/8. Only the aqua-black was available in 4 3/8.

Holding it in hand feels pretty solid. Have yet to play to comment.

BTW, the promotion was good. It costs me THB 3,500 (about USD 117) and it comes with a big green-black Bio bag (which retails for more than the racket!)
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anirut, both were available??? Grrrrrr. I really cat figure Dunlop out. Sorry your grip wasn't available. Did you at least hold the two models? Were there ant discernible differences?
 
The Dampener said:
anirut, both were available??? Grrrrrr. I really cat figure Dunlop out. Sorry your grip wasn't available. Did you at least hold the two models? Were there ant discernible differences?
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IMO, the aqua and the green are the same, except for the color. The sticker on the grip of my aqua says: "D TR BIOMIMETIC 100 (2012) G3 HL". I suppose it means 2012 "model".

There was only one of the green on the rack and it was a 4 1/4.

Just took a few rough measurements. The racket, factory strung (around 50 lbs, 16G synthetic) with the grip plastic-wrapped and a dampener wrapped on the grip at top of grip, comes up to 333.3 grams. Not bad. I like the weight. The balance is at 8 pts HL.

If the plastic is removed that would cut off about 2 grams and the dampener roughly another 2 grams. This would make the stick about 329 g. That means once an over grip is added, it would add another 6-7 grams and makes it another 1-1.5 pts HL. Should be sorta very comfy to play spec.

From my experience with the 4D100, it was nice, easy, stable, except for the rather low SW. I think the Bio 100, per spec, has solved the low SW problem. The racket felt substantial enough that it "feels right", feels like what a tennis racket should be. Something like a lighter weight Head Graphite Edge, though not as solid (of course).

(BTW, I sold off the 4D100 as I wanted some cash for my new DSLR.)

Will give it a few hits against the wall with the factory-strung synthetic and let y'all know.
 
anirut said:
I just got a Bio 100, aqua-black, from Dunlop's booth at Thailand Open. I wanted the green & black but there isn't any 4 3/8. Only the aqua-black was available in 4 3/8.

Holding it in hand feels pretty solid. Have yet to play to comment.

BTW, the promotion was good. It costs me THB 3,500 (about USD 117) and it comes with a big green-black Bio bag (which retails for more than the racket!)
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Hey anirut,

Did you happen to ask the Dunlop people why they switched from the lime green to the aqua? I assume that the switch is worldwide and not just limited to certain areas of the world? They must have a valid reason for making the switch since it seems most customers (at least here on TT) prefer the lime-green paintjob over the aqua one. Very strange move by Dunlop since the Bio 100 hasn't been out all that long so it's not like they needed to change the paintjob to refresh an old model or anything.

Thanks. :)
 
BP, I haven't asked them. Sorry for that. But, yes, the lime-green looks great.

Anyway, after hitting against the wall ...

Corrections to my post above regading the Bio 100:

The racket came factory-strung with Dunlop Silk 130. Tension is still a guess at about 50 lbs. The weight, after removing the dampener and its wrapping, 329.6 grams (the grip is still wrapped). The dampener alone is 3 grams. The balance hasn't changed much. So I'll still say its roughly 8 pts HL.

OK, after hitting against the wall, it feels quite stiff, even with the lower tension multifilament. (The tension measured Eb on my piano. My usual 17G synthetic tension hits between F-G). It was neither plush nor crisp. Off center stability was fine. Hitting top-of-head wasn't jarring. It was a thud, no bad vibrations. The control so far was good with a nice grouping of shots on the wall. (I said so far because of the short hitting-distance. Will need more hittings to comment.)

I'm not used to 8 pts HL so it was quite an arm-fatique hitting controlled shots against the wall at 4-5 meters, esp the backhand. This, combined with the lower weight, "commanded" me to put more energy into hitting the ball. I'm saying this because I brought my Redondo, Dunlop HM100 and an old, dead-string PK (strung more than 10 years) to compare. The higher weight of the other rackets allowed me to go more "relaxed" with the controlled shots and didn't fatique my forearm.

The racket, though, was stable and poppy. The added SW felt good, giving it a nice feel during follow-through. Do remember that this is only hitting against the wall at a short distance so I really couldn't go "all out". (And it's the first time I touched a racket after almost four weeks.)

I think once I add an overgrip, or change the grip to leather plus an OG, or somehow make it more like 10-12 pts HL, it should feel more "at home" to me. Oh, also, string it up with Gosen Micro @60 lbs to get that "old-school-string" mood.

Will get back with a more proper comment again after proper string set up and get to play on court, which I don't know when I'll get that opportunity. May be next Friday if I'm lucky.

Cheers!
 
Fascinating stuff.

I could se the Aqua and Lime being the same stick, except for the reported spec differences. Then again, all specs are subject to variance. Your Aqua is reading more like the Lime's reported specs.

As for the color change, it might have something to do with the upcoming 400 models. I followed a link a day or two ago and came across a pic of the 400 and it was, you guessed it, Lime green.

Anirut, the for all the great details. Keep 'em coming as you experiment further with your Aqua.
 
Is anyone using a full set of natural gut in their 4D? I'm having some arm issues and I know it's not the stick...
 
bad_call said:
not quite the one who started it but u did post a nice review.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=131135

btw - u kicked wilson to the curb?
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Hmmm...I beg to differ. That thread didn't cause a "frenzy" over the AG100. Notice that thread only had 38 posts and died only 2 days later? Whereas, my thread had 361 posts and continued the frenzy for over a year? :) In fact, this thread pretty much picks up where my thread left off.

What? We're not allowed to like more than one racquet around here? :wink:
 
If anything created a frenzy, it was probably the racquet.

Still, it's pretty impressive to achieve "fanboy" status. How do you get that? Do you have to apply somewhere?
 
The Dampener said:
If anything created a frenzy, it was probably the racquet.

Still, it's pretty impressive to achieve "fanboy" status. How do you get that? Do you have to apply somewhere?
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Well, of course it was. I posted my enthusiastically positive review many months before the AG100 was available in the U.S. which created a frenzy well before the racquet even hit our shores. If I had totally trashed the racquet, I doubt the anticipation of the racquet's arrival would have been nearly as high. :)
 
Well, I have to confess, I never even read your review. But learning about it now may help explain where my profound overexuberance came from the moment I first laid eyes oh the phrase "Aerogel 100."
 
The Dampener said:
BT, you string 15g @ 59? I'm impressed. I string 18g @ 46. Guess that demonstrates the 100's versatility.
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Versatile! Yes that is a very good word for this frame.

I wouldn't be too impressed, I'm just an "old-school " hitter who doesn't know any better. I've never tried hybrid stringing. I think my arm needs the friendly full bed of natural gut.

The 15L is an experiment. I played a match Saturday and used the 16g (which had more lead mods and leather + old 57# string job) and tried one set with the 15L (freshly strung @ 59#).

The stability and plow through was much better with the weighted-up one of course. I will have to get the weights & balance points more matched to make a final determination.
 
I just ordered a 4D100 and couldnt wait it to arrive. I played couple of times with a demo stick during the past weekend and all I can say is I strongly recommend this stick for 1hbh players. However, i do see i need to watch my forehand with this racquet as it can go long more often. Ordered a NRG2 string with 56 tension and will see how it goes.
 
Hewex said:
Is anyone using a full set of natural gut in their 4D? I'm having some arm issues and I know it's not the stick...
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Yes. See above post(s).

I have been playing with Klip Legend for appx 3-4 years steady, in three different frames (four, if you count the AG100 as different than the 4D100).

The arm issues I've experienced were:
(1) a little bout w/tennis elbow while playing with the Maxply McEnroe
I think it was the stiffnes of that frame added to improper technique
(2) a little sore shoulder while playing with the KBT
a little underpowered for me so I was trying to muscle my serves

I am certainly glad I got in on the AG100 frenzy! No more arm issues, and I'm certain this frame has improved my game. It's so versatile.:)
 
BreakPoint said:
Well, of course it was. I posted my enthusiastically positive review many months before the AG100 was available in the U.S. which created a frenzy well before the racquet even hit our shores. If I had totally trashed the racquet, I doubt the anticipation of the racquet's arrival would have been nearly as high. :)
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Here's a review from a different angle. I just got a Head Speed Pro, and played a set with it. It is a massive weapon that just plows through any shot where you can get the racquet moving. Can't get it moving? Just stick it out and the ball will go. Anyway, after my first match using the SP, I gave it to my hitting partner and we played a few points. I used my 100, and although the swing I needed was much different from the SP, I found its mobility and quickness provided not necessarily a compensation, but a different way of being aggressive. It is so quick through the ball, even with lead. I really liked the SP, but the 100 is also a goat.
 
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