Dunlop Aerogel 200 Club.

I should get mine tomorrow hopefully (if the postie can find my house, not that easy for various reasons), hoping it feels quite head light (stats say it is but that doesn't always add up in terms of feel for some reason, that could just be my ineptitude though.)
 
Got mine today. Brand new in nice head cover with string dampener, also got a free mug!??. Feels nice, strings do seem pretty naff but not hit with it yet, will do later.
 
Hit briefly with the AG200 tonight, a few serves and groundstrokes were enough to know the factory strings are horrible but the racquet feels nice. Will take it to be restrung tomorrow hopefully (will try a multi/poly hybrid I think)
 
Xenakis said:
Got mine today. Brand new in nice head cover with string dampener, also got a free mug!??. Feels nice, strings do seem pretty naff but not hit with it yet, will do later.
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Wow you got a free mug? Is it a Dunlop aerogel 4d mug?????? lol
 
Hit some serves with my now properly strung AG200 today (Alu power mains, Babs Conquest crosses, 56/57.)

I like it, headlight and solid and not that heavy overall really (not compared to a couple of other racquets I have with lead on them anyway.)

Was going to do some drills and doubles sets with it tonight but it rained a lot so I used my Head FXP prestige instead (a more well weathered racquet, didn't want to 'blood' my brand new and shiny AG200 in the cold and rain.)

Intend to hit with it as soon as there is a dry day/night session.
 
For you guys who like AG 200,i bought a couple of those AG 200 with the 16x19 L5.I liked the way it looked,they are still brand ,new imported from Europe.If anybody wants leave your contact. I will be getting hold of the 4D 200 T in about 10 days,if anybody wants $250 for each,1 L3,and 1 L4.They're still unavailable in US.
let me know
 
First day with Aero200, 18x20, strung at 55 with 15 gauge nylon.
Obviously, similar to my two Mfil 200's, but the head is definetely stiffer. Not bad, not necessarily good. It's a 5/8th, as are my Mfils, but feels smaller. Need thick overgrip for me.
Not any lighter, both 18x20's here, but possibly slightly head heavier. All OK, Mfils were great and I still use them.
 
LeeD said:
First day with Aero200, 18x20, strung at 55 with 15 gauge nylon.
Obviously, similar to my two Mfil 200's, but the head is definetely stiffer. Not bad, not necessarily good. It's a 5/8th, as are my Mfils, but feels smaller. Need thick overgrip for me.
Not any lighter, both 18x20's here, but possibly slightly head heavier. All OK, Mfils were great and I still use them.
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Hi LeeD
I just bought one AG200 unstrung, I usually play full poly bed on my Fischer M-speed #1.
What would recommend for the Aerogel? nylon as you did? Any reason for that or looking for a low budget string? thanks
 
blackfrido said:
Hi LeeD
I just bought one AG200 unstrung, I usually play full poly bed on my Fischer M-speed #1.
What would recommend for the Aerogel? nylon as you did? Any reason for that or looking for a low budget string? thanks
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As with any new racket, you should first string it up with your usual set-up or something familiar. At least then you have a common point of reference.

If the racket doesn't play as you like, then tweak the tension +/- 10%. If it still doesn't play as you want, then change the string to something different.
 
DennisK said:
As with any new racket, you should first string it up with your usual set-up or something familiar. At least then you have a common point of reference.

If the racket doesn't play as you like, then tweak the tension +/- 10%. If it still doesn't play as you want, then change the string to something different.
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that's a good idea to start. Especially when you have a set-up that you like, it's not my case (I've been trying different strings for years). The closest I found to my likes is Signum Poly Plasma.
thanks
 
Buckethead said:
For you guys who like AG 200,i bought a couple of those AG 200 with the 16x19 L5.I liked the way it looked,they are still brand ,new imported from Europe.If anybody wants leave your contact. I will be getting hold of the 4D 200 T in about 10 days,if anybody wants $250 for each,1 L3,and 1 L4.They're still unavailable in US.
let me know
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$179 online here in US
 
Gugafan said:
Intresting...I tried SPPP 1.18 in a MG PRESTIGE MP and it played very flat and board like at the same tension. It's also a very stiff string.
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The MW200G's are very flexible and have a soft feel, which complements the full poly well.
 
OK, 15 or so days with my Aero200.
Still seems stiffer than my Mfil, still seems head heavier than Mfil.
All 18x20's, strung at 55 (Aero) and 62 (Mfil), with the same strings.
 
1hbhBUX said:
10ACE, any idea how much your leather grip added to the static weight? Did you use the thinner or thicker version?
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I use the thinner version, wider width, I also have the thinner version thinner width on one stick.

Static Weight I am not positively sure--However, with the lead in the head at 12 and the leather grip it gave me the polarization I was looking for. The weight in the head gave me the plow through I thought I was lacking from my backhand side, and the leather grip gave me the stability/sturdiness I needed in the handle.

Hope that helps!
 
AG200 18x20 - getting sweeter by the month. It's slowly pushing both my excellent Prince Speedport Tours into the reserve slot...
 
Just picked up a new AG2004d 16x19 and the weather here is so bad I probably won't get to hit for at least a week, it's killing me! Ive been playing with a tecnifibre 320 VO2 for the past 9 months or so, I like it just looking for something a little different. The specs on this one peaked my interest so hopefully it's what I'm expecting.
 
10ACE said:
I hit with the 4DAG200, and did not like it. It felt muted to me. The thickness in the throat, with the 4D took away some feel, in my opinion.
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Interesting. I can see that though. I barely need a dampener with the 4D.

It seems like they both weigh the same and swing the same besides the new tech, so the weight differences are pretty subtle. It's just a feel thing.
 
Power Player said:
Interesting. I can see that though. I barely need a dampener with the 4D. It seems like they both weigh the same and swing the same besides the new tech, so the weight differences are pretty subtle. It's just a feel thing.
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PowerPlayer I know you have some experience with the 320VO2. How would you compare the 4dAG200 with that stick? I cant wait to give mine (the 16x19 version) a test drive.
 
Well I don't have the 16x19 AG200. I am switching to an 18x20, and I think the 2 sticks have different weights, but I could be wrong.

But, the TF has a more hollow feel that you would expect from a tweener stick. It is much stiffer also. I never got more spin in my life then with the V02. I learned more and more that I don't need that much spin for my game since I can produce it with about any racquet. I needed a stick that puts the ball out at a lower trajectory and plays very consistent. That is what the 4D 200 does for me.

The 4D that I have is much more demanding then the V02 was. The V02 was out of the box taking my game to the next level. The only problem was that I had a lot of bad habits I could keep getting away with when I used it. The 4d simply does not allow those bad habits to result in a good shot. I am at the point where I like that and play better because of it.

The touch of the 4D is far better. Slices are far better..Volleys are 100x better. Power is a lot less. BUT you crush a heavy ball with a lot of power as long as your form is good. With the V02 I crushed more topspin shots that were not as accurate. I can paint the lines with the 4D for clean winners. The accuracy is there, so even if you are just hitting back a return to keep a point going, the 4d allows the shot to be placed deep and accurately over and over. The V02 was more of a kill stick. This is nice on paper, but I win more matches by setting up the kill shot with accuracy then just bombing people over and over.
 
Just strange my Aero200Tour 18x20 is LONGER and heavier than my two Mfil200 18x20's. All L-5's, considering one more Aero200Tour to balance out the heavier sticks.
 
Is the 4D 200 Tour supposed to be a baseliner's racquet with those specs? Or is it sufficiently HL to be enjoyed by a S&V'er?

I would expect it to have nice plow-through on serves and stability on volleys.
 
Power Player said:
But, the TF has a more hollow feel that you would expect from a tweener stick. It is much stiffer also. I never got more spin in my life then with the V02. I learned more and more that I don't need that much spin for my game since I can produce it with about any racquet. I needed a stick that puts the ball out at a lower trajectory and plays very consistent. That is what the 4D 200 does for me..
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The TF feeling a bit hollow is definitely one of the reasons I picked this stick up. The 16x19 is lighter than the 18x20, so hopefully it doesnt disappoint and provides that feel I'm looking for.
 
I have one AG200 (2 Mfil 200's) and I string them all up with cheapo PrinceTourneyNylon. Even the confirmed Lux users, when they try my rackets for a hit, say it's "pretty good". I hate their expensive strings, feeling tinny, moving lots, and wearing out quickly. 55lbs for me, mostly, but for first serves, 62. For groundies, maybe 49. I'm mostly S/V lefty.
 
^^^Try a poly at lower tension Gugafan. 22kgs is a good one, or even super low as I've been doing recently, 14kgs/30lbs.

That frame would cope with it well I reckon and you'd definitely get more power/spin.

I'm trying RIP Control at 14kgs tomorrow in my Vantage. Just strung it up.

BTW I haven't forgotten I still owe you a quid/2 overgrips.
 
I have been hitting with the M-fil at 56#s full poly. It has massive power. I prefer my 4ds, but they all need to be strung. When I use full poly, I tend to hit loopier shots then I prefer. Anyway, I personally dont think you need to string much lower then 52 i you go full poly on the 200s. I would have no control, but everyone has different strokes.
 
Gugafan said:
PP, I also find I get more spin with a full poly setup. In terms of power, would full poly be less powerful than poly/syn gut.
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I think so. For example, I get a lot of power with a hybrid at 60#s. Whereas with full poly, I drop that tension to 54-56#s. What happens then is I need to use more spin to keep the ball in the court, hence the loopier shots. I prefer to hit flatter winners, and the tighter hybrid gives me more control for that.
 
Just got my two AG200s.
Replaced the Hydramax Tour grip by a TW Leather grip and a tournagrip and strung it with Cyberflash/OGSheep 23kg/23.5kg.

At the start i was having problems with the high tension after 30minutes it becamed sweet and i played for three hours always matchplay.
If i don't get arm problems tomorrow or later i think i have a great racquet for my game.

But next time i will lower the tension 1 or 2 kilos.
 
^^^Hey THESEXPISTOL,

I just got a set of Polystar Energy and wanted your opinion on how it plays and how you like it. I normally use CyberFlash at 53lbs. Is it similar? I have the ag200 18x20.

-Jon
 
MomentumGT said:
^^^Hey THESEXPISTOL,

I just got a set of Polystar Energy and wanted your opinion on how it plays and how you like it. I normally use CyberFlash at 53lbs. Is it similar? I have the ag200 18x20.

-Jon
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Hey, i just got my ag200s yesterday and didn't had the time to test them with polystar energy yet. But from the 4 months i've been playing with Polystar Energy all i can say is that they are a good matchup. I don't know what's your playing style but with my gamestyle (agressive baseline, S&V) they are the best poly out there. They have touch, they are the most comfortable poly i've ever tried and they got lots of power what for me in ag200 is a good thing because the racquet is a little low powered for my tastes. Spin is good but not as much as other top polys, but unless you have a full western grip it won't be an issue.

I would recommend you to go 1kg or even 2kg tighter with polystar than with cyberflash. That was my rule for the head extreme pros.

If you need something else just post or send me a PM.
 
THESEXPISTOL said:
I don't know what's your playing style but with my gamestyle (agressive baseline, S&V) they are the best poly out there. They have touch, they are the most comfortable poly i've ever tried and they got lots of power what for me in ag200 is a good thing because the racquet is a little low powered for my tastes. Spin is good but not as much as other top polys, but unless you have a full western grip it won't be an issue.

I would recommend you to go 1kg or even 2kg tighter with polystar than with cyberflash. That was my rule for the head extreme pros.

If you need something else just post or send me a PM.
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Okay thanks! I had a feeling the Polystar Energy would be soft, but I didn't think it be that soft vs CyberFlash. I would consider myself an aggressive baseliner like yourself, but would only S&V in doubles lol.

-Jon
 
I have used a lot of Dunlop frames in the past. From a Max300i (great frame) in high school, the Revelation 200g, the Hotmelt 200g.

I have always liked 200 series frames. So, I ordered an Aerogel 200 just to have it. I was using Prince Diablos at the time, so although I hit with the 200 a few times, it basically sat in my bag for a long time.

Fast forward one year, and I'm demoing all sorts of frames looking for a new stick for summer season. Had to play recently and had sent all my demos back (having not made a decision) and really didn't have anything lying around the house to use other than a bunch of old frames. So, I whipped out the Aerogel 200 and for the first time played seriously with it.

Really a great, great frame. Solid, stable, great groundstrokes, serve, slices, insane control. Definitely softer than the Revelation or the current Aerogel 4d (which I also like but not as much), and defintely stiffer and much more stable than the Hotmelt. Perfect weight and balance. And, it would only take a small amount of lead to make it even more of a beast (though it's great as is).

I really have nothing bad to say. I guess since I'm so familiar with 200 series frames, it immediately felt comfortable. And, for some reason, the 18x20 pattern on the 200 series always produce nice spin for me. Maybe I subconsciously change my swing slightly. Regardless, the spin is there if you want it.

And, I say all of this when the 200 was strung simply with Prince Syn Gut Duraflex 16g (which, IMO is actually a great string, especially when fresh). I think the frame would suit a lot of strings (hybrids, full poly, a thinner guage), providing even more spin, power, control -- whatever the user is seeking.

All in all, a great frame that I slept on.

The 4D 200 (regular version) was also a very nice frame, but felt a bit (just a bit) sluggish and didn't serve as well IMO. But, I only used it for one day, so who knows.

The 4D 200 Tour (16x18) is going to make some very strong, big hitters very happy. A nice beefy frame in stock form that has a healthy SW and plenty of plow through and stability. But, it was too much for me, especially over multiple sets.
 
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