Dunlop Aerogel 300 vs 300 tour

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Hey I was just wondering for anyone who hit with either or even better, both; which one you prefer and why and what their pros and cons are. Btw, I already know their specs so yes i know a 16x19 pattern will hit more spin than the 18x20 and the 18x20 will have more control. But I'm mainly asking about user experience, not so much what obvious information is from the specs. And yes, I've used the search tool, and no I haven't found anything than people stating the obvious spec relationships to general information.

Thanks.
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
I like the more open pattern, but I also like the heavier weight.

I ended up with the Euro version that has both: 16 x 18, 11.7 oz.
 
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cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Thanks for the info. I just played with an aerogel this past week and that thing is a serious weapon. I forgot to ask the person which version it was and it's killing me.
 

ryze

New User
I hate to talk about specs but isn't the Euro version 16 x 18? :confused:
The Euro Version is indeed a 16x18 and is my current stick. I moved from the hotmelt 300g to the aerogel 300 16x18 because it felt more solid and offered a bit more clearance over the net for my 1hbh as well as more pop on my serve. Have not tried the 18 x 20 4d aerogel 300 but the specs do look similar to the euro version
 

gmorera

Rookie
I've played with both aerogel 4d 300 and 300T. I'm a 5.0, flat hitter, long swing, 1 hbh, using continental grip for all, isospeed control 16g at 24 kg , so i liked the 300 T the most as provided me with an amazing control. I've played 3 years with it, really nice racquet in all aspect specially i liked on my really flat cross forehand.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
i currently use the 4D 300, and with good modifications (some lead here and there), it's just an excellent classic stick that i am very pleased with (over a year now)..
(i'm a 4.0- 4.5)
 

taiketsu

Rookie
I used the 4d 300 tour. Great racket! I felt like it played like a more user-friendly and maneuverable version of the prestige. With that said, it's definitely more of a control racket - there is no "free" power. I have yet to play with anything that gave me better touch. I think it worked particularly well for the flatter shots, even though I generally use plenty of spin on my groundstrokes.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Ah, thanks for the feedback guys. Yeah I just recently tested it randomly from a hitting partner and was blown away at the penetration it has. I never really experienced that in any other racquet before (including prestige mp's).

Just wanted to hear some direct user experiences and not fall too much into specs relations. As people can claim that 18x20 are more controlled and don't have as much spin, but those rules can be broken as I found the speed mp IG 18x20 to have massive spin as well as the Blade 98 18x20. So just really interested in hearing more on user experiences rather than spec relations.

THanks Everyone!!!
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
I'm a day late and a dollar short.
I also have 2 4DAero300's and 2 Bio300T's.
Less strings, more easy power. T's, if you don't put forth the effort, it rewards me with little, except a short weak ball.
I like them both, and alternate between them and a few other rackets, like Aero500's, MGRadOS, and a Prince03SharkOS, and a few Dunlop Aero and Mfil 200's.
 

anirut

Legend
I have just the Bio 300 Tour. I only don't like the hollow, non-solid feel. Otherwise it's a good stick.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
I"ve added 12" of 1/4" lead tape to the head on both of mine, no weight in the handle, and use strings around 50lbs., but will go lower for sure on the next restring. Probably down to 43, for a more solid feel.
I use 47 on the 4D300's. Tighter strings feel hollow and tinny.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
I have just the Bio 300 Tour. I only don't like the hollow, non-solid feel. Otherwise it's a good stick.
I heard the bio line is a bit disappointing. Have heard good things about the hotmelt and muscle weave line. But have heard great things about the aerogel line. Apparently, people also speak very highly of the aerogel 100. That is supposed to be a sleeper among racquets. But I've never hit with it. I did have a chance to hit with the hotmelt 200g and that hit very sweet. Everything about it was very positive.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
I"ve added 12" of 1/4" lead tape to the head on both of mine, no weight in the handle, and use strings around 50lbs., but will go lower for sure on the next restring. Probably down to 43, for a more solid feel.
I use 47 on the 4D300's. Tighter strings feel hollow and tinny.
Leed, was there anything that you did not like about the 16x19 300? Was it giving you too much power from the open pattern? Was it hard to control? Was the spin minor or considerably higher compared to the 18x20?
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Oh boy, I"m not much of a touch and feely guy, I"m a hammerhead.
They play close enough, as does the Aero500's I have weighted to 320 SW, some with handle weight, some without. I can feel stiffness differences, and the softer is easier on my shoulder. I like the dwell of softer rackets, don't feel the Bio300T's have much real power, but they serve just as good as anything I've ever served with.
Today was mostly hitting with MGRadMid, and LMRadMids, as I didn't bring my 300's, only a 500 and a 03SharkOS.
Sorry, nobody ever accused me of having feel. I played varsity football two years in high school at 110 lbs.
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
I"ve added 12" of 1/4" lead tape to the head on both of mine, no weight in the handle, and use strings around 50lbs., but will go lower for sure on the next restring. Probably down to 43, for a more solid feel.
I use 47 on the 4D300's. Tighter strings feel hollow and tinny.
Yeah see I think stringing plays a big part with these racquets.

The recommended tension range for the Bio300 is 55 to 65, so I started with 60, went down to 55 and am considering going a bit lower. Its not an overly stiff racquet, but the tighter strings make it feel a bit boardy.
 

eelhc

Hall of Fame
If you like the 4D 300 tour, try the 4D 200 if you can find one... Now there's a control racquet.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Hate the swingweight of even my LMRadMids, around 325, just too much, and sluggish. Hate even more the SW of 337 on my 2 Mfils, and 344 on my Aero200's.
MGRadMid is very nice, just like my 4DAero300's, but more strings, wider frame, less tall. I can't serve beans with the MG, while the 300 serves huge.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
If you like the 4D 300 tour, try the 4D 200 if you can find one... Now there's a control racquet.
Yeah I got my nose on some older stuff. I can't say they are vintage because for me that goes back to the 80's and 90's. But the aerogel was maybe 8-10 years old. But I don't understand when a company makes something good, and then for the next few generations they churn out crap. Like the graphene stuff. I just tried the GRP and that thing is exactly what people say it is.

Do you have any other suggestions for dunlop?
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
The new releases, Hotmelt and Max, seem OK.
200 Lites were OK.
200 +'s were very good.
Yeah I'm gonna try to pick up the 16x19. If that doesn't do it for me, I'll wait till an 18x20 comes along. The MGRad MP is a little underpowered. You should try out the oversize. But try it with the stock strings they give you. For some reason those stock strings are pretty good. I like them for the pocketing, feel and crispness.

But for now, I think I'm slowly migrating over to dunlop and see what they have to offer.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Thanks, I bought my MGRadOS back in August, stock strings.
My bud's, a brand new MGRADMID, is strung with some syn gut, white, and very similar to the stock strings.
I always said, MGMids have little serve power, OS has little serve power. LMRadMids ( I have two, my bud as 7) serve great, but demand a strong fast swing every time, or I don't get ANY power.
I like the 4DAero300 the best, and possibly a T if the T has strings softer than 45 lbs.
My two Bio300T's have Ice17 at 51 and Silk 16 at around 58.
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Yeah I got my nose on some older stuff. I can't say they are vintage because for me that goes back to the 80's and 90's. But the aerogel was maybe 8-10 years old. But I don't understand when a company makes something good, and then for the next few generations they churn out crap. Like the graphene stuff. I just tried the GRP and that thing is exactly what people say it is.

Do you have any other suggestions for dunlop?
I've tried Mfil, Aerogel, Aerogel 4D, and Biomimetic Max 200 and Bio 100 racquets. (I have not tried the present Biomimetic F/M/S lines.)

My favorite (by a little) are the AG4D racquets: AG4D100, AG4D 300, AG 300 Tour, Mfil 200.
 
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