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  1. robbo1970

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    Yeah I still whip out my Bio300 every now and again. Pretty sure it needs re-stringing though.

    I've had it with syn gut at 50lbs, but it seems to be a bit of a launcher. Might try 55lbs to reign it in a bit.

    I'm always interested in what others string theirs at.

    Hopefully the re-release of the MW200G and HM300G in the UK will spark some interest.
     
  2. Roland G

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    Yes I see the MW and HM have been released again. Might just pick up one of each for the hell of it.

    I've just given up on the PS97 and pulled out two old Bio 400 Tours I had.

    I had forgotten what a nice frame they are. Both strung with Cyclone and around 15g of weight added they hit a mean ball! Nice control too for such a powerful frame. Class paint job also
     
  3. FedBeckRas

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    Dunlop Revelation Classic Pro
    Dunlop Muscleweave 200G
    Dunlop Hotmelt 200G
    Dunlop Aerogel 4D 200
     
  4. hoodjem

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    Does anyone know if any of the new Dunlop Force or Biofibre racquets feel like the old Aerogel series?

    (I have still have and play with seven of the Aerogels, but I tried the Bio Max 200G and it did not feel the same.)
     
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  5. CHOcobo

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    I have many Dunlops. All I actually have are Dunlops, about 12 of them. I love them all.

    I hear they're more stiff but still good. Seeing thes specs alone seems like each new line gets stiffer and stiffer and wider and wider. It seems like BioFibre was their last decent line up. iDapt was a total flaw as I knew those removable throat piece gets unstable and loose. Months later I'm seeing post about needing a replacement due to wear and tear.

    Is anyone selling their Bio 200 Tours?
     
  6. cedm

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    Released where?
     
  7. Roland G

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    UK I think. I spotted them on a prominent string suppliers site.
     
  8. un6a

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    Hi Roland,
    I have Bio 400 Tour and want to buy new Bio F3.0 Tour for good prize.
    Can you tell me please if grip size/shape is same on these models ?
    My Bio 400T have grip size 3 and it is perfect, but if F3.0T grip feels even slightly bigger i would have to go with grip size2.
     
  9. robbo1970

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    Yes, definitely in the UK. I have seen them on two sites, both offering pretty bargain prices. £60-£70.
     
  10. BorgCash

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    Dunlop Max 200 G (original - Mac & Steffi) - 7
    Dunlop Power Plus - 1
    Dunlop Muscle Weave 200 G - 1
    Dunlop Hot Melt 200 G - 1
    Dunlop Aerogel 4D 100 - 1
    Dunlop Aerogel 4D 200 - 2
    Dunlop Aerogel 4D 200 Tour - 4
    Dunlop Integra 98 - 1
    Dunlop Maxply McEnroe - 1
    Dunlop Biomimetic Max 200 G - 1

    Totally 20 Dunlop sticks, about 10% of all my racquets.
     
  11. hoodjem

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    Yep. It seems like the latest Force racquets are Babolat wannabees.
     
  12. Roland G

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    Foolishly I sold my f3.0 Tours last year and will probably pick up some more at some stage. Great sticks. From what I remember the grip shape was exactly the same as with the 400 Tour. I used both at the same time and, at least I, didn't notice any difference
     
  13. Ben Prima

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    Greetings, I just saw this thread. I am a new member here, and a die-hard Dunlop fans since the era of McEnroe and Graf. Right now I am using Aerogel 300. Which is old. Any advice what I should go next?
     
  14. CHOcobo

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    According to many post I see here the Hot Melt 300, Bio 300, and the 4D 300 Tour are most popular. The 200 series are also great.
     
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  15. Ben Prima

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    Thank you. I will try both the Bio, as well as F series.
     
  16. LeeD

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    Bio's need at least 16" of lead at 3-9, or 7" at 12, since stock SW is 305-308.
    F3T's SW is close to 320, as is M's.
     
  17. DonDiego

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    F3.0 Tour here (2x)
    They share court time with my BLX Blades 98 black and gold.
     
  18. Chuonfood

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    Is the Bio M2.0 for $59 worth getting and leading with leather grip? To reach 12.4oz 6points HL?
     
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  19. morten

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    I dont think it becomes that heavy just using leather.. I tried, ended at 336grams strung and leathered, dampener and all. But a good racket.
     
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  20. Backhanded Compliment

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    Depends on which leather grip but it is what I do to all of my frames (usually becker or Head's finest calfskin). It is a decent frame and at that price a really good deal. It is a stiffer player's frame option.
     
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  21. Roland G

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    Some might disagree but I found this frame to have a stiffer feel and quite a small sweetspot.
     
  22. Chuonfood

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    Let me clarify, I meant leading up and leathering to reach 12.4 or close to it. Is the racket hollow / tinny feeling stock? What other racket would you compare it to? (some of the mainstream ones)

    I would be using TW leather 1.5mm. Is the stiffness feel similar to APD?

    If I lead 3 and 9, I'm thinking this would open up sweet spot. Do you agree?
     
  23. un6a

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    I have 4D 300 Tour, Bio 400 Tour and Bio 500 Tour. Bio F3.0 Tour is on the way.
     
  24. gmorera

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    I've been as well a dunlop fan all my life. I still have a hotmelt 300 G, 4d 300 T and bio 300 T. I did not personally like any dunlop racquet after the bio 300 t...till now :)
    I picked up a Revolution NT Tour and i'm back in business. Great racquet. Playing with it the last months and i will keep using it. I wrote a small review about it in this forums.
     
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  25. Backhanded Compliment

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    Well it isnt quite as stiff as an apd but getting there... my favorite recent dunlops were the Biomimetic 200, Bio 200tour and Bio 300tour... all nice frames. There is a reason people havent been that excited about their player's frames since and you can get them for good deals.
     
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  26. Chuonfood

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    A couple of questions...

    Is there a trap door on the Bio M2.0 and F3.0 where I can add silicone?

    How do these two racquets compare?

    Why is there no love for the Bio M2.0?
     
  27. LeeD

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    M2 is MUCH stiffer, an 95 with a smaller top of the head.
    F3T is friendlier for me in that it's lighter in SW, wider in the head, and just bigger, while being only around 64 flex. I know, it's listed at 63, but my two Bio3T's are 63, and much softer feeling. My 4DAero300's are 60, and feel exactly that.
    I prefer the old Aero500's, weighted up to 12 oz and 325 SW's. 68-69 flex.
    I got into PureDrive envy, tried at least 6 of my friends, and bought a F5T, which is weighted up to 330 SW's, a bit excessive for me. At 72, it's stiffer and feels more powerful than standard length PD's, but I still have to weight it more in the handle, less in the head, and change tension to mid 30's, which I like for the stiff rackets.
     
  28. Roland G

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    Perhaps. To be fair, I got frustrated with the frame quite quickly (mainly due to the stiff feel) and didn't spend any time tinkering.
     
  29. Ben Prima

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    Any other comment/review on the Revolution NT here? Thanks!
     
  30. Chuonfood

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    I looked up those frames that you mentioned above and the Bio 200 got me intrigued. Have you hit with Ai98 or 6.1 95 16x18? If so, how do they compare? Is it true the Bio 200 is low powered? I'm thinking if I do try it, I would place leather grip for a bit more HL, full bed of synthetic gut @ 58.
     
  31. Backhanded Compliment

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    I dont find the Bio 200 particularly low powered... a lot like the flexy TC95 in many ways. Never hit with the Ai98 but a hitting partner has a 6.1 95 16x18... that is a great stick but it is powerful and solid. night and day approaches to player frames... one flexy and controlled the other is solid and punishing. Both serve well. Everyone should hit with a 6.1 16x18 at least once. Its a really interesting frame. It is stiff-ish but in a good way. The Bio 200 is flexy and kind to the arm but not as plush as the TC95... but similar to be sure. Nice looking stick also. The Bio 200 is like a flexier more powerful version of the Head IG Prestige MP, different feel though. Muted scale = Max200g>TC95>Bio 200T>Bio 200>IGPMP>6.1 95 16x19. All are solid frames.

    Your Bio 200 setup sounds solid.
     
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  32. Chuonfood

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    The plushest racket I hit with for a year was the Tour G330. But that thing was pushing 356g with leather OG. Its stiffness rating is 63. I wonder if the Bio 200 is as plush as this...?
     
  33. Backhanded Compliment

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    at the same weight the Bio 200 will be pretty plush as RA is 58 strung... do you like frames that soft? ... because it is way different from 62 or 63RA, you feel the flex at 58.

    I dont think the Bio 200 is foam filled like my Angell (The bio 200T is) but you can put some foam in the handle if you want more dampening.
     
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  34. CopolyX

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  35. counterpuncher

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    The Force racquets definitely not, they are nice racquets but they are at least 5 RA points too stiff for my liking. My 98 Tour feels stiffer than the APD and PD. The Biofibre seem to have the same specs as the Biomimetic which I also own a few and from memory they feel close to the Aerogel series.
     
  36. goosala

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    Aerogel 100
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    Aerogel 4D 200 Tour
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  37. Roland G

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    See the TW reviews for the Force 98 & 100 Tours are up. Pretty mediocre by the sounds of things. Stiff, uncomfortable seems to be the general consensus
     
  38. Deki

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    Dunlop is drifting in wrong direction with new models. Hope they will start to make again real classics.
    I have a long history with them and also my father played more than 30 years only with Dunlop frames so I tried many D frames which definitely have best qc.
    My frames:
    Relevation Classic Pro MP
    AG200 4D 16x19
    Bio 200
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  39. 6august

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    I'm a diehard fan of Head, and will always be.

    I've experienced Aerogel 300 4D. Didn't like the headshape, not for my 2HBD. Tried the Hotmelt 300g too but that stick performs better at the net than baseline.

    However, recently they offer the Bio 400 Lite at 60$(!) - I love the PJ so decide to try 1. Wow! After some customization, it plays like a young girl in her prime, everything is sweet and smooth. Not board-like stiff at all despite >70RA listed. Solid from the baseline. Fast at the net. Spin friendly. Easy power. Large sweetspot.

    But there're still some small cons: My serve hasn't got used with this stick yet. A little trampoline can be felt on hard-hitting balls.

    Overall: Great stick. Definitely underrated. Worths every single penny (at that price:rolleyes:).
     
  40. 6august

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    [​IMG]

    Great PJ. One of the best PJs in the last 10 years.
     
  41. MotoboXer

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    Is the new Force line really just the idapt racquets connected into a solid stick?
     
  42. Overheadsmash

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    I think the Aerogel and Aerogel 4D lines are the best they have made. I still have an Aerigel 500 tour and a 4D 500 tour but only use them sparingly because I don't want to put a scratch on them. Have two Bio 300 Tours and they are very nice as well. Really wanted to like the F3.0 Tour, but just not enough mass for me plus no feel.
     
  43. LeeD

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    I like the new more than the old, and that's rare for me in any sport.
    F5T is close to perfect, with a bit of lead (9"), in the throat, which I'll remove and shift to the handle and double it's length.
    Aero500's are great also, flex 68, but the smaller tip of the head does cause mishits for me. They get over 33" total of 1/2" lead tape, half in the buttcap area, half along the insides of the head.
    I get to constantly compare because I still rotate thru 2 Mfil200's, 2 4DAero300's, 2 Bio300T's, besides the 5 series rackets.
     
  44. sma1001

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    What is it?
     
  45. Roland G

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    Biomimetic 400 Lite. The 400 Tour from that range looks even better IMO
     
  46. 6august

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    You're right. The 400 Tour is unbelievably beautiful. A masterpiece in design.

    [​IMG]
     
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    What's the closest Dunlop to the Ai 98?
     
  48. un6a

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    Dunlop F3.0 Tour have fairly similar specs as AI98 (although string pattern is different), but i never hit with AI98 so i don't know if their playing characteristics are similar too.
     
  49. Roland G

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    It really is a great looking frame. I still have two of them and enjoy playing them. They absolutely need weight added to the head though. A pretty unique type of racquet - tweener like power with players' frame like control.
     
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  50. un6a

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    I have Yellow Yonex PTP in my Bio 400T and green overgrip, it looks incredible
     

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