Dustin Brown: Disgrace

[Fabresque]

Taking your anger out on the umpire, fine. Taking your anger out on your opposition? Crossing the line, bang out of order. Not even Nick Kyrgios has done that. Yes, he’s COMPLAINED about Nadal to the umpire, but never did he berate Nadal and constantly ask him questions. Vatutin has absolutely no obligation to answer this clowns questions. Argue with the umpire, berate him, swear at him all you’d like. But don’t try and fight with the opposing player. Also:

Very upstanding professional. I know he doesn’t HAVE to concede the point, but it’s still grimy.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s disliked in the locker room. Just because he showboats doesn’t give him excuses to act like this.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Imagine being that mad over a trivial match that no one is there for

 

[Terenigma]

Who cares? Career nobody with no titles and his only claim to fame is beating Nadal at Wimbledon during a period where Nadal was losing to everyone on grass. Call me when someone who is worth talking about has a meltdown.

 

[tonylg]

Brown is indeed acting like an idiot. He should know most clay courters are cheats and just accept it.

 

[Fedbump]

Who cares? Career nobody with no titles and his only claim to fame is beating Nadal at Wimbledon during a period where Nadal was losing to everyone on grass. Call me when someone who is worth talking about has a meltdown.

LOL! a period where Nadal was losing on grass? Try 2012-2017 that included 3 other mugs

 

[vex]

LOL! a period where Nadal was losing on grass? Try 2012-2017 that included 3 other mugs

.... I don’t think anyone is disputing that he has a terrible run on grass

 

[Deleted member 768841]

It was a very smart idea to place the benches across the room from each other. Brown was acting inappropriate. Also with the second clip, that one is weird. Due to the camera angle it’s hard to tell what the call is, but when the umpire said it was probably out, that got me. What does that mean? No call?

 

[Fedbump]

.... I don’t think anyone is disputing that he has a terrible run on grass

Like that is the only surface he's had terrible runs on LMAO. One trick pony unless it's given to him on a silver platter.

 

[FatHead250]

He was right though - the point was played out

 

[Deleted member 768841]

Like that is the only surface he's had terrible runs on LMAO. One trick pony unless it's given to him on a silver platter.

Oh yeah, 2008 never happened, nor 2010. 2010 I can get but 2008 just does not apply to what you are putting down.

 

[Fedbump]

Oh yeah, 2008 never happened, nor 2010. 2010 I can get but 2008 just does not apply to what you are putting down.

He was great on grass for a short period. He couldn't maintain it though. Not at ATG level. He failed on grass overall for someone who is a so called GOAT candidate. You can't suck at Wimbledon from age 25-30 and be taken seriously.

 

[Deleted member 768841]

He was great on grass for a short period. He couldn't maintain it though. Not at ATG level. He failed on grass overall for someone who is a so called GOAT candidate. You can't suck at Wimbledon from age 25-30 and be taken seriously.

He hasn’t really sucked, just faced opponents who are better on grass. 2011 he got to the finals, but wasn’t having an amazing year. Same with 2018/2019, got close to finals but was bested by an opponent who gets better results on grass. Take Djokovic or Federer out of the picture once, and maybe Del Potro and Nadal has a high chance of winning.

 

[beard]

Who cares? Career nobody with no titles and his only claim to fame is beating Nadal at Wimbledon during a period where Nadal was losing to everyone on grass. Call me when someone who is worth talking about has a meltdown.

But Nadal can't be goat, he lost to Dustin... Kyrgios style...

 

[Fedbump]

He hasn’t really sucked, just faced opponents who are better on grass. 2011 he got to the finals, but wasn’t having an amazing year. Same with 2018/2019, got close to finals but was bested by an opponent who gets better results on grass. Take Djokovic or Federer out of the picture once, and maybe Del Potro and Nadal has a high chance of winning.

Look at Federer and Djokovic results after they officially arrived. There is no true lull like the one Nadal has had at Wimbledon. The most prestigious tournament in the history of the sport. He can never be GOAT.

 

[Fedbump]

But Nadal can't be goat, he lost to Dustin... Kyrgios style...

You can say that again.

 

[Deleted member 768841]

Look at Federer and Djokovic results after they officially arrived. There is no true lull like the one Nadal has had at Wimbledon. The most prestigious tournament in the history of the sport. He can never be GOAT.

The same could be said about Djokovic and Federer at RG, they had a much tougher opponent on their favorite surface. Fed got lucky and managed to get one RG. Nadal still has won Wimbledon more than AO, arguably imo the least respectable slam (no offense Aussies) but to say he can’t be a GOAT because he hasn’t won the most prestigious tournament more than 2-3 times?

 

[megamind]

how i felt watching the first video

 

[Fedbump]

The same could be said about Djokovic and Federer at RG, they had a much tougher opponent on their favorite surface. Fed got lucky and managed to get one RG. Nadal still has won Wimbledon more than AO, arguably imo the least respectable slam (no offense Aussies) but to say he can’t be a GOAT because he hasn’t won the most prestigious tournament more than 2-3 times?

Federer and Djokovic haven't sucked a double s at RG like Nadal did at Wimbledon during his prime years. Wimbledon is what counts the most in the end along with HC slams when evaluating resumes. Being really great at RG isn't enough. No one cares.

 

[beard]

You can say that again.

Rookie, you don't understand, it's joke about Kyrgios delusions...

 

[Fedbump]

Rookie, you don't understand, it's joke about Kyrgios delusions...

Is 2-0 a delusion?

I think not

 

[Mainad]

how i felt watching the first video

You felt like wearing a silly blue hat?

 

[zuluzazu]

Federer and Djokovic haven't sucked a double s at RG like Nadal did at Wimbledon during his prime years. Wimbledon is what counts the most in the end along with HC slams when evaluating resumes. Being really great at RG isn't enough. No one cares.

Who in this universe only counts wimbledon and hard court slams while evaluating resumes. Have all non- fed fans been killed by corona because last I remember only fed fans evaluate resumes using cherry picked stats. This is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Because of fans like you I just hoped that fed would never win RG and then we could have listened to more of salty excuses and new definitions of evaluating resumes.

 

[killerboss]

4-2 , 2-4? The hell is going on up in here lmao. Even most exhos I have seen have more than 4 games a set. As for Brown, don't know much about him but from what I have seen he normally seems pretty relaxed. Will have to see more than 1 meltdown before I can call him a disgrace.

 

[Deleted member 22147]

Taking your anger out on the umpire, fine. Taking your anger out on your opposition? Crossing the line, bang out of order. Not even Nick Kyrgios has done that. Yes, he’s COMPLAINED about Nadal to the umpire, but never did he berate Nadal and constantly ask him questions. Vatutin has absolutely no obligation to answer this clowns questions. Argue with the umpire, berate him, swear at him all you’d like. But don’t try and fight with the opposing player. Also:

Very upstanding professional. I know he doesn’t HAVE to concede the point, but it’s still grimy.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s disliked in the locker room. Just because he showboats doesn’t give him excuses to act like this.

Can someone tell me why Americans always use "locker room" in place of "off-court"? It's not like professional players only see each other in a locker room. Seems odd.

 

[ibbi]

Nice of him to still sweep the courts in spite of how outraged he is

 

[RaulRamirez]

Well, he wasn't doing it to egg on the crowd.

OP, why is it okay to take your anger out on the umpire?

 

[mike danny]

The same could be said about Djokovic and Federer at RG, they had a much tougher opponent on their favorite surface. Fed got lucky and managed to get one RG. Nadal still has won Wimbledon more than AO, arguably imo the least respectable slam (no offense Aussies) but to say he can’t be a GOAT because he hasn’t won the most prestigious tournament more than 2-3 times?

Omly Fed got lucky? What about Djokovic?

 

[Steve0904]

Thiem will not be paying him. That is for sure.

 

[Steve0904]

He hasn’t really sucked, just faced opponents who are better on grass. 2011 he got to the finals, but wasn’t having an amazing year. Same with 2018/2019, got close to finals but was bested by an opponent who gets better results on grass. Take Djokovic or Federer out of the picture once, and maybe Del Potro and Nadal has a high chance of winning.

Yes he's really sucked. You're sugarcoating it. For a player of Nadal's caliber to have the kind of drop off on grass is frankly inexcusable. I don't care what it says about whatever GOAT status he may eventually be anointed with. I'm simply saying you can't lose to Rosol, Darcis, and Brown (and then Kyrgios and Muller) and expect a majority of people to give him a total pass by saying he hasn't sucked. Nadal fans maybe (and only the crazy ones at that), but no one else is going to totally ignore that and they shouldn't have to.

They aren't better than Nadal on grass either. He has 2 Wimbledon titles and they have a combined zero. And to his great credit he's bounced back on grass and came perhaps within a single BP conversion of winning the title in 2018, but he was still horrible during the 12-17 period.

And no Federer and Djokovic's results at RG aren't similar. The worst player Fed has lost to at RG is Gulbis, and only one year there. The rest of his losses are easily acceptable. Way above the Rosol, Darcis, Brown tier of players. Same with Djokovic.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

Nice of him to still sweep the courts in spite of how outraged he is

das ist exactlich what I took from this vid... glad to see i'm not the only one able to focus on what really matters
(that... and 4-games sets ?!)

PS: oh, and his denadalizations were wonderful...

 

[Sysyphus]

That's that good old Bob Marley mellowness right there

 

[RaulRamirez]

Yes he's really sucked. You're sugarcoating it. For a player of Nadal's caliber to have the kind of drop off on grass is frankly inexcusable. I don't care what it says about whatever GOAT status he may eventually be anointed with. I'm simply saying you can't lose to Rosol, Darcis, and Brown (and then Kyrgios and Muller) and expect a majority of people to give him a total pass by saying he hasn't sucked. Nadal fans maybe (and only the crazy ones at that), but no one else is going to totally ignore that and they shouldn't have to.

They aren't better than Nadal on grass either. He has 2 Wimbledon titles and they have a combined zero. And to his great credit he's bounced back on grass and came perhaps within a single BP conversion of winning the title in 2018, but he was still horrible during the 12-17 period.

And no Federer and Djokovic's results at RG aren't similar. The worst player Fed has lost to at RG is Gulbis, and only one year there. The rest of his losses are easily acceptable. Way above the Rosol, Darcis, Brown tier of players. Same with Djokovic.

Agree in part...and how did this get to this thread.
Rafa had a bad stretch at W, for sure. But overall, he has an 82% win percentage at W, five finals and two titles. Not bad. And there are reasons why he is not as successful (relatively) at W - which we all know.

Somewhat interestingly, from 2006-11, Rafa made five straight finals of the 5 years he played.

In the 2012-17 period, he also played five times, and did not advance to the QF.

 

[mbm0912]

The guy plays tennis in a toboggan. That's all you need to know.

 

[Steve0904]

Agree in part...and how did this get to this thread.
Rafa had a bad stretch at W, for sure. But overall, he has an 82% win percentage at W, five finals and two titles. Not bad. And there are reasons why he is not as successful (relatively) at W - which we all know.

Somewhat interestingly, from 2006-11, Rafa made five straight finals of the 5 years he played.

In the 2012-17 period, he also played five times, and did not advance to the QF.

Sorry. I know it was off topic and I tried to ignore it, I really did, but I've honestly never seen that justification for Nadal's struggles on grass. That "he didn't suck, he just played players that were better than him." It makes absolutely no sense to me.

Anyhow, like I said earlier, looks like Mr. Brown won't be getting any bailout money from Thiem.

 

[RelentlessAttack]

Look at Federer and Djokovic results after they officially arrived. There is no true lull like the one Nadal has had at Wimbledon. The most prestigious tournament in the history of the sport. He can never be GOAT.

Hate to pull a Lew here, but if you’re gonna be a hater then GOAT candidates also don’t get owned by their main rival prime to prime and dethroned on their preferred surfaces. They also don’t blow MPs against major rivals multiple times

 

[Deleted member 768841]

Federer and Djokovic haven't sucked a double s at RG like Nadal did at Wimbledon during his prime years. Wimbledon is what counts the most in the end along with HC slams when evaluating resumes. Being really great at RG isn't enough. No one cares.

B

Omly Fed got lucky? What about Djokovic?

djokovic didn’t?

 

[mike danny]

B

djokovic didn’t?

Djokovic had the same luck as Federer. I don't see why you have to only single out Fed here.

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

That's that good old Bob Marley mellowness right there

"Shut up and smoke that." - Bill Hicks.

 

[Deleted member 768841]

Djokovic had the same luck as Federer. I don't see why you have to only single out Fed here.

Well, as I see it, Fed got lucky in 2009 because Nadal got out early, but after that either Djokovic faced an opponent in their peak (Stan) or got a semi difficult opponent like Murray, or Nadal.

 

[mike danny]

Well, as I see it, Fed got lucky in 2009 because Nadal got out early, but after that either Djokovic faced an opponent in their peak (Stan) or got a semi difficult opponent like Murray, or Nadal.

Federer also faced an opponent at his peak, Del Potro, in 2009 and managed to win.

Djokovic in 2016 got lucky because Nadal withdrew early in the tournament and he also got to avoid Stan too, the guy who had beaten him in 2015. He avoided 2 difficult opponents compared to just 1 for Fed and Djokovic didn't get lucky? Yeah, right.

 

[StrongRule]

Well, as I see it, Fed got lucky in 2009 because Nadal got out early, but after that either Djokovic faced an opponent in their peak (Stan) or got a semi difficult opponent like Murray, or Nadal.

Djokovic's strongest opponent in RG 2016 was Bautista Agut. That was one of the easiest draws. Federer had a much tougher draw in 2009.

 

[prostaff1]

Good for Brown sticking up for himself.

Horribly late call and the umpire did nothing.

 

[stringertom]

Djokovic's strongest opponent in RG 2016 was Bautista Agut. That was one of the easiest draws. Federer had a much tougher draw in 2009.

You’re ignoring that his final was vs Murray, who had routined (3&3) Joe Kovic in the Rome final just three weeks before their RG final.

 

[Devilito]

Not sure how a late call even matters. If the ball was out, it was out and you lost the point not matter what followed afterwards. It's 2020, we need to just go to fully automated line calls to avoid all of this BS.

 

[Fedbump]

Who in this universe only counts wimbledon and hard court slams while evaluating resumes. Have all non- fed fans been killed by corona because last I remember only fed fans evaluate resumes using cherry picked stats. This is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Because of fans like you I just hoped that fed would never win RG and then we could have listened to more of salty excuses and new definitions of evaluating resumes.

There's a surface distribution thread right now about Nadal and Djokovic combining AO and UO LOL! Then there's the 9-6 in slams crap that goes around. I don't want to hear it, bud. Can't win 70% of slams on one fackin court and be goat. Bye.

 

[Fedbump]

Brown GOAT.

Nadal pigeon.

 

[N01E]

"This one is in, the other one was probably out" is one of my all time favourite tennis quotes.

 

[asifallasleep]

Yawn

 

[asifallasleep]

Brown is indeed acting like an idiot. He should know most clay courters are cheats and just accept it.

I mean they aren't called "dirt ballers" for nothing!!

 

[zagor]

An disgrace.