Easter Bowl 2013?

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The cuts to the National tournament schedule for 2014 include the Easter Bowl.
The USTA reasoning being that some kids have different school vacations in April and therefore some kids have to miss school to play this tournament.

"Eliminating the USTA National Spring Championships in 2014 to avoid a major national championship
being contested during the school year"

Of course, then their logic to get rid of Winter Nationals at Xmas makes zero sense,
as regardless of what your religion is or what school you attend, everyone in the country is off for Xmas vacation.

Ok, well I digressed. It is looking a little like Easter Bowl for 12-16 has disappeared too for next spring, 2013.
It is not on any schedule, but I do see the one for the 18's ( which is an ITF I believe).

Does anyone know anything about this?


Per Colette -

There is no reference to the Easter Bowl, other than the ITF Grade B1, but note the calendar says, "the intent is to sanction the BG18 Easter Bowl ITF and To Be Named Event at the same site." This is a 32-draw for 12s, 14s, and 16s, but it appears a third "Masters" for the 14s and 16s has been introduced that wasn't in the proposal I linked to back in February. If it is held concurrently with the To Be Named event, it obviously weakens the TBN event and further segregates players at an age when breakthroughs from one level to another are common.

I can't see how this furthers the goal of making the system "more efficient, effective and affordable," and I don't understand what problem that particular scheduling is solving.


The comment above refers to 2014 where it will be a small tournament for 32 kids ( with probably 1/2 wild cards in), and that simultaneously there will be other tournaments for juniors. Her opposition being that there will be no cross play within the same age group which is a shame for the 12's, 14's and 16's as that is the time when juniors are still moving up and down, and now there will be no opportunity for that to occur.

However, I am asking about 2013. Does anyone out there on our board see it on their sectional calendar?
 
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An interesting thing about the schedule changes is that it sort of reintroduces the 'birthday problem'. With kids aging up in their birth month, and national tournaments spread relatively equal throughout the year, the birth day problem was largely eliminated. Now, the new schedule has the major tournaments heavily concentrated in the summer, with winters and springs reduced, and clays moved from May to July. If the player is born in September, this is not a problem, but for kids born in say, June, they just got shafted.
 
Alohajrtennis said:
An interesting thing about the schedule changes is that it sort of reintroduces the 'birthday problem'. With kids aging up in their birth month, and national tournaments spread relatively equal throughout the year, the birth day problem was largely eliminated. Now, the new schedule has the major tournaments heavily concentrated in the summer, with winters and springs reduced, and clays moved from May to July. If the player is born in September, this is not a problem, but for kids born in say, June, they just got shafted.
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Interesting point.
Also, an issue if the junior has an injury during the summer.
They will either have to skip the only two Nationals or play through an injury and make it potentially worse.

Winters is a small team event, basically sounds like an invite as it was 40% wild card in last time I saw info, and you don't leave when you lose, but stay and work with the USTA PD coaches.

Boys 18's Easter Bowl stays as it is an ITF,
but the 12-16's is a 32 draw, so a lot of Blue chips won't play either.
 
chalkflewup said:
I fully support cutting the Winer Nationals. Too much going with family and relatives during this time.
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But nobody was forced to go. Winter works better for some people than summer for some people, to each his own. The old schedule at least had a reasonable distribution of evens through the year, and maybe it was too spread out given the realities of the school year, but I think the new schedule is an overreaction and swings the pendulum too far the other way.
 
chalkflewup said:
I fully support cutting the Winer Nationals. Too much going with family and relatives during this time.
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say what?

That's like me saying i fully support cutting out the zoo because my wife's birthday is that week.

I agree with others who have a problem with the only two L1s being 3 weeks apart. (& then an 11 month gap).

Plus, i like Az in Dec. & unlike a L1 in April, i don't have pull my kid out of school.


Back to the OP.....I think the massive changes will take place in 2014, with the only change next year being an Oct tournament for the chosen few (16 draw), and the July L3 being whacked down from 64 this year to 32 next year.
 
hound 109 said:
say what?

That's like me saying i fully support cutting out the zoo because my wife's birthday is that week.

I agree with others who have a problem with the only two L1s being 3 weeks apart. (& then an 11 month gap).

Plus, i like Az in Dec. & unlike a L1 in April, i don't have pull my kid out of school.


Back to the OP.....I think the massive changes will take place in 2014, with the only change next year being an Oct tournament for the chosen few (16 draw), and the July L3 being whacked down from 64 this year to 32 next year.
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I think another change for 2013 is the Super Nats during summer being reduced from 192 to 128 and the wild cards double from 8 to 16.

But, ok, you hear EB is on for 2013. That is encouraging....
I was looking at sectional endorsements and only read about it for 18 ITF EB.
 
tennis1970 said:
Rancho las palmas said 2012 was the last year they are holding it. So if it exists in 2013 it is at another venue
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Thanks tennis 1970,

So, am I correct that Rancho las Palmas always held it in the past....

Is it possible they got rid of this, and didn't tell anyone?
 
Alohajrtennis said:
An interesting thing about the schedule changes is that it sort of reintroduces the 'birthday problem'. With kids aging up in their birth month, and national tournaments spread relatively equal throughout the year, the birth day problem was largely eliminated. Now, the new schedule has the major tournaments heavily concentrated in the summer, with winters and springs reduced, and clays moved from May to July. If the player is born in September, this is not a problem, but for kids born in say, June, they just got shafted.
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:confused: Clays have always been in July..
 
It was going to be moved to Memorial day, I think, becuase of the elimination of the May opens. I think they then changed their mind, the final list of changes to the 2014 schedule included this statement: "Although the date of the USTA National Clay Court Championships is not included in the USTA regulations, the revised tournament calender for 2014 and Beynd shows the tournament has been moved from the Memorial Day Weekend to July.

Point stays the same, September birthday, good. July birthday, Bad luck.
 
Alohajrtennis said:
It was going to be moved to Memorial day, I think, becuase of the elimination of the May opens. I think they then changed their mind, the final list of changes to the 2014 schedule included this statement: "Although the date of the USTA National Clay Court Championships is not included in the USTA regulations, the revised tournament calender for 2014 and Beynd shows the tournament has been moved from the Memorial Day Weekend to July.

Point stays the same, September birthday, good. July birthday, Bad luck.
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Yes, correct. It was moved to May ( Memorial Day weekend) in preliminary notes, but then kept in July with a reduced draw and an increase in wild cards.

Plus, most of the kids here will need sectional endorsement for clay and hards, but the USTA kids will not. Which I find beyond incredibly unfair.
 
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