I discovered a neat little technique for the EBH pronation serve. Eastern Backhand Grip = EBH Normally a beginner will wonder how the heck can one hit a serve with such a grip. It is so closed that it is hard to even square the face to the target standing still. It actually hurts the arm unless you put the arm behind you and stand with a closed or square stance. So for years now I have been focussing on snapping the forearm/wrist to get the ball over the net. Tossing it farther back also helps. One little technique that "CoachKyril" on youtube advocates is tossing a bit left and letting the elbow come backwards towards you. This lets the arm remain comfortably bent. Well today I was fooling around, experimenting, and I wondered what would happen if I took the natually closed face [hard to square up] that results from this grip [EBH] and closed it even more. Acasuso does this when he sets up for serve with his hitting face pointing to the sky. The arm must rotate even more to get to square. So I deliberately closed the face going back by suppinating my forearm so the hitting face ended up looking almost at the back fence. Then on the forward swing I rotated the forearm [pronated] as much as I could to get back to hit the ball squarely. To my amazement, I crushed it in. The sound was almost that of a slap. I repeated this time and time again with no problem getting it in the box with huge pace. Hitting up on it gave it some awesome spin. WOW .... a new weapon !! I did not have time to experiment with toss positions. But I will soon. Hope this is interesting to someone.