Ecuador Open Quito - ATP 250

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Exhaused from AO + Clay = Lopez not winning IMO.

Verdasco is the safe pick.
 

speedysteve

Legend
Has the clay season started already:)

Back to the wonderful ATP tour.
I'm going with Lopez or Verdasco;)
Would say Lopez would be exhausted, he's has a long enough rest but who knows...
 

Gizo

Hall of Fame
It's nice to see Ecuador hosting an ATP event again. It is one of my favourite countries on the planet, with it boasting arguably the most diverse landscape/scenery in South America, and in such a relatively small area as well. Plus the warrior Nicolas Lapentti is one of my favourite tennis players of all time.

I would love to see Falla winning his 1st title this week after finishing as the runner-up to Karlovic at Bogota in 2010 and to Federer at Halle last year, but the Spaniards are the favourites.
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
Hoping Lindell can pull through and win this tournament. He needs to win qualifying final first though.
 

tenisdecente

Hall of Fame
Awful line-up of players, but this is expected I guess since it is its first year in the tour. Not a lot of players to watch unfortunately
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
Not looking good for Lindell though. I think the high altitude is working against him. He's looking very tired
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
Damn shame, can't see how Lindell can come back after this. Really took a lot out of him this set.
 

papertank

Hall of Fame
Love that Ecuador has a 250 now. Hopefully it has a great turnout. I'd personally like to see Verdasco win, it's been a while since he's had a good result so this could get him back on track. Verdasco is super-entertaining when playing well.
 

speedysteve

Legend
Yes, all the top players should play there and treat it as paid for altitude training:)

I wonder if they use the Madrid balls or even more so spec?

Do the players see the Quito writing on the court or is that just added to the video feed?
If they see it, I would be saying to myself, "don't Quito, don't Quito", over and over.
 
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Mustard

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Didn't Nadal himself complain about the altitude in Madrid?

Rafael Nadal didn't enjoy playing as much in Madrid as playing in Paris, Monte Carlo and Rome, and the higher altitude was a reason. However, Madrid is not high at all when compared to the examples listed below.

Thomas Muster won 4 years in a row in Mexico City from 1993-1996, which is at a high altitude. This tournament was later moved to Acapulco, on the Pacific coast, in 2001. Muster won at Bogota in 1996, which is the highest altitude event that he ever played in. Quito is even higher than Bogota.

I might go with the best of the draw from a high altitude country...Giraldo.

Not so much the country, but only parts of it. Places in Ecuador like Guayaquil and Manta, are not at altitude at all. I know somebody who lives in Guayaquil and he finds going to Quito to be a real challenge.

There are many challenger and futures events in Manta, and it's only 6m above sea level. The conditions couldn't be more different to somewhere like Quito.
 
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Algo

Hall of Fame
Jarry through to second round after beating Escobar in a very Karlovic way, no baseline game at all today.
Will play Lajovic now. If he happens to win, I'm looking forward for a match with López already.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Quito is at a high altitude. To think that some people moan about Madrid's altitude.

Anything past ~ 1000m (~ 3300ft) is high altitude in my book. I have played at 1500m and it's pretty difficult. I can't imagine doing it at 2800m
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Anything past ~ 1000m (~ 3300ft) is high altitude in my book. I have played at 1500m and it's pretty difficult. I can't imagine doing it at 2800m

What did you find difficult, the fitness side of it or the fact that the air is thinner and the ball flies through the air so much more? Was it in Denver or somewhere, where you played at that elevation?

Madrid is at 667m elevation (high by European standards)
Mexico City is at 2,250m elevation (moved to Acapulco in 2001 at 30m elevation)
Bogota is at 2,640m elevation
Quito is at 2,850m elevation
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
What did you find difficult, the fitness side of it or the fact that the air is thinner and the ball flies through the air so much more? Was it in Denver or somewhere, where you played at that elevation?

Yeah, Denver. It's mostly fitness, I was gassed pretty quickly.
 

JanowiczJ

Professional
I hear American players and jornalists talking about Denver's altitude all the time and I always laugh at that. Once I went to La Paz to watch my team play there (The Almighty Corinthians) and you got problems just WALKING. and I was very fit at the time. It's simply just absurd to do sports there.

Actually, the airplane landing already makes you think you are going to die lol. First step out of the airplane you feel dizzy. Haha.

I believe an NFL kicker could drill a 100 yards field goal in La Paz. haha.

Anyways, Bellucci loves clay tournaments on high altitude cities. Suits his game almost perfectly. The problem is that he already played 2 3-sets games and his fitness is always a problem;

If not for that I'd say he'd make to the final.
 

vive le beau jeu !

Talk Tennis Guru
What did you find difficult, the fitness side of it or the fact that the air is thinner and the ball flies through the air so much more? Was it in Denver or somewhere, where you played at that elevation?

Madrid is at 667m elevation (high by European standards)
Mexico City is at 2,250m elevation (moved to Acapulco in 2001 at 30m elevation)
Bogota is at 2,640m elevation
Quito is at 2,850m elevation
it's not on the main tour but there has been some challenger or future events in la paz, hasn't it ?
(although i suppose the tournament location is not in el alto !) ;)

here's a women one:
http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/women's-tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1100027187

also, there's this:
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i didn't find a view of the court... but they claim this is the highest lawn tennis court in the world, at 3500 m in Leh, in Ladakh (Himalaya) !
or, on the fun side:

and... a good moment to bump this thread (even higher) ?
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=406485
 
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Mustard

Bionic Poster
I hear American players and jornalists talking about Denver's altitude all the time and I always laugh at that. Once I went to La Paz to watch my team play there (The Almighty Corinthians) and you got problems just WALKING. and I was very fit at the time. It's simply just absurd to do sports there.

Actually, the airplane landing already makes you think you are going to die lol. First step out of the airplane you feel dizzy. Haha.

it's not on the main tour but there has been some challenger or future events in la pas, hasn't it ?

La Paz is at an even higher altitude than Quito. La Paz is at an elevation of 3,640m, which is 1,000m higher than Bogota and around 2,000m higher than Denver. They call Denver "the mile high city", well La Paz is more than 2 miles high.
 
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terpito

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So much for my pick...gone in his first match to the ancient Montanes!:cry:
Brutal tiebreak on the 1st set from Giraldo. Just too many unforced errors and not all there mentally. The talent is there, but he needs the drive to match. Story of his career :(
 

vive le beau jeu !

Talk Tennis Guru
La Paz is at an even higher altitude than Quito. La Paz is at an elevation of 3,640m, which is 1,000m higher than Bogota and around 2,000m higher than Denver. They call Denver "the mile high city", well La Paz is more than 2 miles high.
actually, la paz is spread over a relatively large range of altitudes (it's a bit "on the edge" of the altiplano) from 3200m to 4100m, in el alto, where there is the airport (technically: a different municipality, but part of the agglomeration)... so it can be considered even higher than lhassa !

now the question is... donde estan las canchas de tenis ? ;)
 

-snake-

Hall of Fame
actually, la paz is spread over a relatively large range of altitudes (it's a bit "on the edge" of the altiplano) from 3200m to 4100m, in el alto, where there is the airport (technically: a different municipality, but part of the agglomeration)... so it can be considered even higher than lhassa !

now the question is... donde estan las canchas de tenis ? ;)


You're the Goat Vive :lol:
 

JanowiczJ

Professional
actually, la paz is spread over a relatively large range of altitudes (it's a bit "on the edge" of the altiplano) from 3200m to 4100m, in el alto, where there is the airport (technically: a different municipality, but part of the agglomeration)... so it can be considered even higher than lhassa !

now the question is... donde estan las canchas de tenis ? ;)


yeh, they joke that the airplane in La Paz doesn't 'take off' it 'takes down' :)

Terrible sensation. I'll never go there again. After I left the airport I thought I was having a seizure and panicked calling for a doctor and some local lady offered me some tea and then I started to feel better.

Only after I calmed down that my friend laughed at me and told me that was a Cocaine Tea. :shock:

Amazing friendly people there, tho.
 

Avles

Hall of Fame
yeh, they joke that the airplane in La Paz doesn't 'take off' it 'takes down' :)

Terrible sensation. I'll never go there again. After I left the airport I thought I was having a seizure and panicked calling for a doctor and some local lady offered me some tea and then I started to feel better.

If you ever think of going back there, you might want to consider taking Diamox... I took a little the morning before flying from Miami to La Paz and I think it helped with the transition to altitude. I did feel a little short of breath for the first couple of days but after that was totally fine. Then again they say some people are more susceptible to altitude sickness than others-- maybe I was just lucky.

I never managed to play tennis in while staying in La Paz but did play some racquetball and volleyball (actually wallyball) without difficulty. Once my lungs got used to the altitude it was just like being at home.

Only after I calmed down that my friend laughed at me and told me that was a Cocaine Tea. :shock:

Amazing friendly people there, tho.

Coca tea isn't really anything like cocaine... it's very innocuous (you used to even be able to buy it on Amazon, but it looks like that's no longer the case).
 
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