Edberg Lendl US Open 1991 semi stats

[abmk]

Edberg def. Lendl 6-3,6-3,6-4

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From the ATP site :

1st serve %:
Edberg : 55/82 (67.1%)
Lendl : 42/85 (49.41%)

1st serve points won :
Edberg : 40/55 (72.72%)
Lendl : 27/42 (64.29%)

2nd serve points won :
Edberg : 14/27 (51.85%)
Lendl : 18/43 (41.86%)

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Aces :
Edberg : 4, Lendl : 4 (including one 2nd serve ace in the 1st set)

DFs:
Edberg : 4, Lendl : 2

SWs:
Edberg : 1, Lendl : 0

FHW:

Edberg : 4 (including 2 passing shots, 1 return and 1 half-volley)
Lendl : 4 (including 1 return passing shot and 1 passing shot)

BHW :

Edberg : 2 (including one return winner)
Lendl : 5 (including 2 return passing shots and 3 passing shots)

FH wing UEs:

Edberg : 7 (including 3 volley errors)
Lendl : 2

BH wing UEs:

Edberg : 10 (including 6 volley errors and 3 return errors)
Lendl : 9 (including 2 volley errors)

FH wing FEs:
Edberg : 10, Lendl : 7

BH wing FEs:
Edberg : 24, Lendl : 41

FHV :
Edberg : 13, Lendl : 5

BHV :
Edberg : 7, Lendl : 1

OH :
Edberg : 2, Lendl : 1

Net points :

Edberg : 69/98 (70.4%)
Lendl : 20/23 (86.96%)

SnV points:

1st serve :
Edberg : 36/51 (70.59%)
Lendl : 4/7 (57.14%)

2nd serve :
Edberg : 13/22 (59.09%)
Lendl : 1/1 (100%)

Unreturned serves (excluding aces and service winners):

1st serve :
Edberg : 24, Lendl : 11

2nd serve :
Edberg : 9, Lendl : 3

All unreturned serves :

1st serve :
Edberg : 29, Lendl : 14

2nd serve:
Edberg : 9, Lendl : 4

Unreturned serve% :

Edberg : 38/82 (46.34%)
Lendl : 18/85 (21.18%)

BP chances:
Edberg : 6/9, Lendl : 2/7

Games with BP chances :
Edberg : 6/7, Lendl : 2/3


Out of the 48 errors that Edberg forced from Lendl :
31 from serve
4 from forehand
8 from backhand (including 5 from slice BH - that includes net approaches, 1 one of those slice BHs was a return)
2 from forehand volley
3 from backhand volley

Out of the 31 errors that Lendl forced from Edberg :
12 from serve
9 from forehand (including 3 returns)
10 from backhand (including 1 slice BH, 4 returns and 1 lob)

In summary,

Winners:
Edberg : 33, Lendl : 21

UEs:
Edberg : 21, Lendl : 13

FEs:
Edberg : 31, Lendl : 48

Points :
Edberg : 94, Lendl : 73

Note: There was one first serve of Lendl that was not returned by Edberg, but the footage was cut off. To me, it looked like it was probably a body serve and forced return error of the BH wing, going by Edberg's position at the end when the footage came back. That's what I've marked it down as. This was in the 2nd set, Lendl serving at 2-5,30-15. If someone has some other footage and coverage of that point and can confirm, that'd be good.

 

[abmk]

Aces :

Edberg : 0,0,4 .....Total = 4
Lendl : 3,0,1 ....Total = 4

DFs:

Edberg : 1,0,3 .....Total = 4
Lendl : 1,1,0 ....Total = 2

SWs:

Edberg : 0,1,0 ....Total = 1
Lendl : 0,0,0 .....Total = 0

FHW:

Edberg : 2,2,0 ....Total = 4
Lendl : 1,2,1 ....Total = 4

BHW :

Edberg : 2,0,0 ....Total = 2
Lendl : 2,0,3 ....Total = 5

FH wing UEs:

Edberg : 1,4,2 ....Total = 7
Lendl : 1,0,1 ....Total = 2

BH wing UEs:

Edberg : 5,2,3 ....Total = 10
Lendl : 4,1,4 ....Total = 9

FH wing FEs:

Edberg : 4,2,4 .....Total = 10
Lendl : 4,2,1 .....Total = 7

BH wing FEs:

Edberg : 6,7,8 ....Total = 24
Lendl : 14,12,15 .....Total = 41

FHV :

Edberg : 1,6,6 ...Total = 13
Lendl : 0,2,3 ....Total = 5

BHV :

Edberg : 2,2,3 .....Total = 7
Lendl : 0,1,0 .....Total = 1

OH :

Edberg : 2,0,0 ....Total = 2
Lendl : 0,0,1 ....Total = 1

Net points :

Edberg : 21/30,23/34,25/34 ....Total = 69/98 (70.4%)
Lendl : 3/4,6/8,9/11 .....Total = 20/23 (86.96%)

SnV points:

1st serve :
Edberg : 10/14, 11/17,15/20 ....Total = 36/51 (70.59%)
Lendl : 0/1,0/1,4/5 ....Total = 4/7 (57.14%)

2nd serve :
Edberg : 3/5,5/9,5/8 ....Total = 13/22 (59.09%)
Lendl : 0/0,1/1,0/0 ....Total = 1/1 (100%)

Unreturned serves (excluding aces and service winners):

1st serve :
Edberg : 9,7,8 ....Total = 24
Lendl : 3,1,7 ....Total = 11

2nd serve :
Edberg : 3,2,4 ....Total =9
Lendl : 1,0,2 .....Total = 3

All unreturned serves :

1st serve :
Edberg : 9,8,12 ....Total = 29
Lendl : 5,1,8 ....Total = 14

2nd serve:
Edberg : 3,2,4 ....Total = 9
Lendl : 2,0,2 ....Total = 4

BP chances:

Edberg : 3/5,2/2,1/2 ....Total = 6/9
Lendl : 1/2,1/1,0/4 .....Total = 2/7

Games with BP chances :

Edberg : 3/4,2/2,1/1 ....Total = 6/7
Lendl : 1/1,1/1,0/1 ....Total = 2/3

In summary,

Winners:

Edberg : 9,11,13 .....Total = 33
Lendl : 6,5,10 ....Total = 21

UEs:

Edberg : 7,6,8 ....Total = 21
Lendl : 6,2,5 ....Total = 13

FEs:

Edberg : 10,9,12 ....Total = 31
Lendl : 18,14,16 .....Total = 48

Points :

Edberg : 33,27,34 ....Total = 94
Lendl : 23,20,30 ....Total = 73

 

[abmk]

Comments :

An excellent match from Edberg. Not as good as the final vs Courier where he was near-perfect, but still an excellent one. Served well, returned well, approached well and volleyed well. Match was a masterclass in how to approach the net in particular, IMO.

In the 1st set and until 1-5 in the 2nd set, Lendl was passive. Don't understand why he wasn't hitting his groundstrokes harder.
Only after he went down 1-5 in the 2nd set, Lendl started playing like we know he could, hitting his FH/BH harder/crisper.
His low 1st% in the match also let him down.

In the 1st set, Edberg broke Lendl with a great game, then got broken back in a UE filled game. Then Edberg broke 4 more times (twice in the 1st set and twice in the 2nd set) and was dominant until 1-5 in the 2nd set. Then Lendl started playing well. broke back once in the 2nd set with a pretty good , but Edberg closed it out on the next attempt.

Edberg could sense by then that Lendl had raised his game. Started going for a little more on his serves, some fist pumps after winning some good/crucial points.
Just one slightly below par service game from Lendl in which he got broken separated them in the 3rd set. Edberg saved 4 BPs in one game in the 3rd set.

Lendl came in at good moments to the net and volleyed well in the match.

 

[abmk]

These 2 shots are a must-watch :

1 shot from behind the back from both. Pay attention to Lendl's words after Edberg does the same.

 

[Moose Malloy]

So the serve stats at ATP are correct for this match? 46% unreturned serves may be the highest I've seen for Edberg. I had him at 43.58% unreturned vs Lendl at 89 YEC. Guess Lendl had trouble returning his serve at times. 70% at net is pretty great as well. Haven't tracked net stats on many of his matches.

 

[abmk]

So the serve stats at ATP are correct for this match? 46% unreturned serves may be the highest I've seen for Edberg. I had him at 43.58% unreturned vs Lendl at 89 YEC. Guess Lendl had trouble returning his serve at times. 70% at net is pretty great as well. Haven't tracked net stats on many of his matches.

yep, ATP stats are correct for this match. My total no of points won matches up for both Edberg and Lendl with that on the ATP site.
The double counting problem is for slams from 92-99 and the 92 Year Ending Championships.

Added SnV stats.
Also added a note about one point which was partially cut-off.

Yes, pretty good% at the net for Edberg. Might start a thread for collecting & posting net stats for Edberg. (maybe one for Mac too)

As far as unreturned serves go, yeah, high% for Edberg. Lendl just wasn't making the fine adjustments required to return/pass well in this match nor was he hitting hard/crisply until he was down 1-5 in the 2nd set.

 

[dgold44]

These 2 shots are a must-watch :

1 shot from behind the back from both. Pay attention to Lendl's words after Edberg does the same.

I recall they both his behind their back. First lendl then a few games later it was EDBERG lol.
Show the Edberg one , too.

Lendl was passed his prime by 1991 and looked nowhere the player he was only a few years ago.

 

[IowaGuy]

Yes, pretty good% at the net for Edberg. Might start a thread for collecting & posting net stats for Edberg.

Would be interesting to see how Edberg's net stats differ between his service games (where he's generally at the net following a serve) and his return games (where he's generally following in either a chip & charge, a slice approach, a topspin approach, or sometimes just a good deep shot that pulls his opponent off-court).

Also would be interesting to see how his net stats differ from volleys following a 1st serve vs. a 2nd serve.

In watching many of his videos (but not tracking percentages), it seems as if he gets more put-away volleys on his serve, and generally faces tougher volleys when he approaches, especially on his slice approaches (which of course, makes sense). But he was such a great returner in general, that the return game net percentages must have been pretty decent!

 

[Gizo]

With all eyes on Connors and his magical semi-final run, Edberg's march to his first US Open final flew very much under the radar that year. But this was a cleaning thrashing from Edberg, with excellent approaches, returning and volleying. I hadn't realised that Lendl's net stats were so good in this match as well. Like most people I much prefer to watch close competitive matches than one sided blow-outs, but I didn't mind those one-sided blow-outs so much when it was Mac or Edberg dishing them out in an artistic and picturesque style.

Obviously I couldn't track h2h records using the internet back then, so I was actually surprised that the Edberg h2h Lendl finished so evenly poised at 14-13 to Edberg, as for a while it seemed to me that Edberg was always beating Lendl.

The contrast between Edberg's 1991 and 1992 US Open titles was certainly fascinating.

In 1991 he was in zone during his each of his last 4 matches and won them all easily. Things really clicked into gear for him during his 4th victory over Chang when he was excellent, which was more one sided than the scoreline suggested, and from then on he seemed to get better and better with every match.

4th round: def Chang 7-6(2) 7-5 6-3
Quarter-final: def Javier Sanchez 6-3 6-2 6-3
Semi-final: def Lendl 6-3 6-3 6-4
Final def Courier 6-2 6-4 6-0 (just a flawless demolition)

With this run, he also regained the world no. 1 ranking from Becker, and had conquered his US Open demons in style, as previously he had always seemed to save his worst tennis for Flushing Meadows, looking uncomfortable with the planes flying overhead, the windy conditions, the bright lights, night matches etc. He had failed to reach the quarter-finals in his previous 3 appearances there; going down to Krickstein in 5 sets in 1988 (one of the rare occasions when his temper was on show), getting annihilated by a 37 year old Connors in 1989, and getting straight setted by Volkov in the 1st round in 1990 after winning 21 matches in a row and claiming the world no. 1 ranking (and to make matters worse Volkov allegedly tanked his R2 match against Todd Witsken to fly back to Germany to fulfil a contractual obligation to play Bundesliga team tennis).

In 1992 he of course needed to show a lot more resilience, grit and fitness to defend his title, spending 16 hours and 40 minutes (1000 minutes in total) on court during his last 4 matches:

4th round: def Krajicek 6-4 6-7(6) 6-3 3-6 6-4
Quarter-final: def Lendl 6-3 6-3 3-6 5-7 7-6(3)
Semi-Final: def Chang 6-7(3) 7-5 7-6(3) 5-7 6-4
Final: def Sampras 3-6 6-4 7-6(5) 6-2

I guess another similar comparison would be Borg easily winning his first Wimbledon title in 1976 without dropping a set, and then defending his title in 1977 after coming through titanic 5 set matches against Edmondson in the 3rd round, Gerulaitis in the semi-finals and Connors in the final.

 

[abmk]

Would be interesting to see how Edberg's net stats differ between his service games (where he's generally at the net following a serve) and his return games (where he's generally following in either a chip & charge, a slice approach, a topspin approach, or sometimes just a good deep shot that pulls his opponent off-court).

Also would be interesting to see how his net stats differ from volleys following a 1st serve vs. a 2nd serve.

In watching many of his videos (but not tracking percentages), it seems as if he gets more put-away volleys on his serve, and generally faces tougher volleys when he approaches, especially on his slice approaches (which of course, makes sense). But he was such a great returner in general, that the return game net percentages must have been pretty decent!

you have the 1st serve (1a) and 2nd serve SnV(1b) stats above.

you have the total net stats.(2)

Do 2 -(1a+1b) to get stats on the approach shots in this match.

Good luck getting stats like those in other matches though. (unless someone specifically charts those).

 

[Moose Malloy]

Here are stats on their 1986 USO SF
Lendl d Edberg 76(6), 62, 63

Edberg
61% 1st serve
0 aces
7 double faults
67% 1st serve pts won
47.5% 2nd serve pts won
24 non service winners
30% unreturned serves(this is a more typical rate for Edberg)
0-2 on break points

Lendl
70% 1st serve
4 aces
1 double fault
83% 1st serve pts won
68% 2nd serve pts won
34 non service winners
28.7% unreturned serves
3-8 on break points

Lendl won 111 points, Edberg 86. The average points per game was 6.56 while in '91 it was 5.96

 

[abmk]

Note that in this match, Edberg SnVed on every 1st and 2nd serve. Did not stay back on any point.

 

[IowaGuy]

Note that in this match, Edberg SnVed on every 1st and 2nd serve. Did not stay back on any point.

Edberg was really feelin' it in 1991! Straight-sets over Lendl and then Courier.

Seems like when he smelled blood (opponent not playing well), he just upped the pressure (come in on all 2nd serves, and often in return games as well).

Unfortunately there will likely never be another Edberg, unless surfaces and/or technology changes to favor that sort of style again. He is one of my favorites to watch! Thanks for charting all the stats!

 

[Moose Malloy]

Lendl's run to the semis in 91 was pretty impressive. He was down 2 sets to love in the first round to Krajicek, was down 2 match points at 6-5 in the 4th and saved them both with return of serve winners. Was also down 4-2 in the tiebreak. It was brutally hot and 19 year old krajicek lost the 5th set 6-0. In the 4th round Lendl beat 20 year old ivanisevic in 4 sets. In the QF he beat the new Wimbledon champion Stich in a match played over 2 days. He was down 2 sets to 1, and 3-0 in the 4th set tiebreak. This was the first year there was a radar gun at the USO, I remember how amazed people were at the mph krajicek was getting on his serve.

 

[abmk]

Edberg was really feelin' it in 1991! Straight-sets over Lendl and then Courier.

Seems like when he smelled blood (opponent not playing well), he just upped the pressure (come in on all 2nd serves, and often in return games as well).

Unfortunately there will likely never be another Edberg, unless surfaces and/or technology changes to favor that sort of style again. He is one of my favorites to watch! Thanks for charting all the stats!

I think he came in when he was feeling good and knew he could put the opponent under pressure.
and you welcome !

 

[Vincent-C]

Edberg def. Lendl 6-3,6-3,6-4

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From the ATP site :

1st serve %:
Edberg : 55/82 (67.1%)
Lendl : 42/85 (49.41%)

1st serve points won :
Edberg : 40/55 (72.72%)
Lendl : 27/42 (64.29%)

2nd serve points won :
Edberg : 14/27 (51.85%)
Lendl : 18/43 (41.86%)

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Aces :
Edberg : 4, Lendl : 4 (including one 2nd serve ace in the 1st set)

DFs:
Edberg : 4, Lendl : 2

SWs:
Edberg : 1, Lendl : 0

FHW:

Edberg : 4 (including 2 passing shots, 1 return and 1 half-volley)
Lendl : 4 (including 1 return passing shot and 1 passing shot)

BHW :

Edberg : 2 (including one return winner)
Lendl : 5 (including 2 return passing shots and 3 passing shots)

FH wing UEs:

Edberg : 7 (including 3 volley errors)
Lendl : 2

BH wing UEs:

Edberg : 10 (including 6 volley errors and 3 return errors)
Lendl : 9 (including 2 volley errors)

FH wing FEs:
Edberg : 10, Lendl : 7

BH wing FEs:
Edberg : 24, Lendl : 41

FHV :
Edberg : 13, Lendl : 5

BHV :
Edberg : 7, Lendl : 1

OH :
Edberg : 2, Lendl : 1

Net points :

Edberg : 69/98 (70.4%)
Lendl : 20/23 (86.96%)

SnV points:

1st serve :
Edberg : 36/51 (70.59%)
Lendl : 4/7 (57.14%)

2nd serve :
Edberg : 13/22 (59.09%)
Lendl : 1/1 (100%)

Unreturned serves (excluding aces and service winners):

1st serve :
Edberg : 24, Lendl : 11

2nd serve :
Edberg : 9, Lendl : 3

All unreturned serves :

1st serve :
Edberg : 29, Lendl : 14

2nd serve:
Edberg : 9, Lendl : 4

Unreturned serve% :

Edberg : 38/82 (46.34%)
Lendl : 18/85 (21.18%)

BP chances:
Edberg : 6/9, Lendl : 2/7

Games with BP chances :
Edberg : 6/7, Lendl : 2/3


Out of the 48 errors that Edberg forced from Lendl :
31 from serve
4 from forehand
8 from backhand (including 5 from slice BH - that includes net approaches, 1 one of those slice BHs was a return)
2 from forehand volley
3 from backhand volley

Out of the 31 errors that Lendl forced from Edberg :
12 from serve
9 from forehand (including 3 returns)
10 from backhand (including 1 slice BH, 4 returns and 1 lob)

In summary,

Winners:
Edberg : 33, Lendl : 21

UEs:
Edberg : 21, Lendl : 13

FEs:
Edberg : 31, Lendl : 48

Points :
Edberg : 94, Lendl : 73

Note: There was one first serve of Lendl that was not returned by Edberg, but the footage was cut off. To me, it looked like it was probably a body serve and forced return error of the BH wing, going by Edberg's position at the end when the footage came back. That's what I've marked it down as. This was in the 2nd set, Lendl serving at 2-5,30-15. If someone has some other footage and coverage of that point and can confirm, that'd be good.

Nice work, abmk! Thank you.