Effect of nadal's loss his rankings

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Deleted member 55539

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So he had 6585 before he entered AO.. now he lost 840 points.. which makes his current standing at 5745.,,, the current standing of all the players below him with the highest possibility of taking over his ranking.. all of them are still in the AO :

Kei Nishikori 5205

Milos Raonic 4845

Andy Murray 4675

Tomas Berdych 4660

Do you see this happening in the next few months? It will be very interesting if nadal falls to number 5 or something and faces joker in QF..
 

clayqueen

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So he had 6585 before he entered AO.. now he lost 840 points.. which makes his current standing at 5745.,,, the current standing of all the players below him with the highest possibility of taking over his ranking.. all of them are still in the AO :

Kei Nishikori 5205

Milos Raonic 4845

Andy Murray 4675

Tomas Berdych 4660

Do you see this happening in the next few months? It will be very interesting if nadal falls to number 5 or something and faces joker in QF..

I don't think Djoker would like that either.
 

Russeljones

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The permutations are quite a few. Murray is certainly licking his chops. Not even he could have predicted such a route to the final. He is Nadal's biggest threat in terms of ranking in the first half of the year, I feel.
 
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Deleted member 55539

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I did not have time to check who is defending what in the coming weeks..

but if anyone has an idea it would be interesting to see what is coming up..

maybe nadal quickly goes down to 8 or something.. ;)
 

MichaelNadal

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I did not have time to check who is defending what in the coming weeks..

but if anyone has an idea it would be interesting to see what is coming up..

maybe nadal quickly goes down to 8 or something.. ;)

:lol: Nadal played 2 matches after Wimbledon. His ranking will be top 4 fairly easily at the end of the year if he plays the full season.
 

SystemicAnomaly

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It appears that any of these 4 guys could take the #3 spot with with a win here at the AO final. Kei, or maybe one of the others, might do it just by getting to the final. Wining in the QF won't get any of them enough points but it will certainly put them in striking distance.

http://live-tennis.eu/
 

Harry_Wild

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Roger Federer could be affected too since he drop one round earlier then Nadal did. But who knows until the tournament is over what the standing will be.

Rafa could stay the same or go down one or two to 4 or 5 or 6 from 3!
 

zep

Hall of Fame
Nadal does not have a lot of points to defend in the clay season. If he can get back to his normal clay court level, ranking does not matter as long as he is not facing Djokovic early. After a successful clay season he would be back on top (~3/4).
 

kOaMaster

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Nishikori could become #3 with a final, the others would need a win.

Nadals loss might have big consequences on his ranking, depending on what he achieves until the French Open.
Out of his 5745 points post-AO, he won 550 since the FO (including the 360 for the AO QF).
His ranking breakdown until the FO is:
26.05.2014 Roland Garros W 2,000 08.06.2015
04.05.2014 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Madrid W 1,000 11.05.2015
11.05.2014 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Rome F 600 18.05.2015
19.03.2014 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Miami F 600 30.03.2015
13.04.2014 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Monte Carlo Q 180 20.04.2015
06.03.2014 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Indian Wells R32 45 16.03.2015
17.02.2014 Rio de Janeiro W 500 23.02.2015
21.04.2014 Barcelona Q 90 27.04.2015

@Harry Wild: No, the furthest Nadal could drop post AO is number 5 in a scenario where Nishikori loses the final to either Berdych or Murray

@zep: Not a lot points to defend in the clay season? Assuming he plays the same tournaments like last year, the maximum amount of points possible to win is 6000 (GS, 3xMasters, 2x500). He did win 4250 last year! I don't think we can expect a lot more, even by his standards. And no, he most likely won't be number 3, even if he repeats last seasons clay success. Number 4 could be, but I wouldn't say it's realistic. Murray and Raonic have very few points to defend until the french open, Nishikori could improve too.
 
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Russeljones

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Nishikori could become #3 with a final, the others would need a win.

Nadals loss might have big consequences on his ranking, depending on what he achieves until the French Open.
Out of his 5745 points post-AO, he won 550 since the FO (including the 360 for the AO QF).
His ranking breakdown until the FO is:
26.05.2014 Roland Garros W 2,000 08.06.2015
04.05.2014 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Madrid W 1,000 11.05.2015
11.05.2014 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Rome F 600 18.05.2015
19.03.2014 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Miami F 600 30.03.2015
13.04.2014 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Monte Carlo Q 180 20.04.2015
06.03.2014 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Indian Wells R32 45 16.03.2015
17.02.2014 Rio de Janeiro W 500 23.02.2015
21.04.2014 Barcelona Q 90 27.04.2015

@Harry Wild: No, the furthest Nadal could drop post AO is number 5 in a scenario where Nishikori loses the final to either Berdych or Murray

@zep: Not a lot points to defend in the clay season? Assuming he plays the same tournaments like last year, the maximum amount of points possible to win is 6000 (GS, 3xMasters, 2x500). He did win 4250 last year!

Excellent breakdown. A year ago I'd have sworn Grigor's name would pop up in a discussion like this. :'(
 
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Nadal does not have a lot of points to defend in the clay season. If he can get back to his normal clay court level, ranking does not matter as long as he is not facing Djokovic early. After a successful clay season he would be back on top (~3/4).

He has 3600+ bro.

2000 RG W
1000 Madrid W
600 Rome F
And some from MC and Barcelona.
 

zep

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He has 3600+ bro.

2000 RG W
1000 Madrid W
600 Rome F
And some from MC and Barcelona.

I was talking about tournament before RG. It depends on his level. But of he can get back to his usual clay court level then he can maintain the current ranking post RG even if he does not win it. After that it is a free run.
 
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I was talking about tournament before RG. It depends on his level. But of he can get back to his usual clay court level then he can maintain the current ranking post RG even if he does not win it. After that it is a free run.

600 from Miami, and a handful from IW.

He will need to win IW and make the final of Miami again to stand much chance of keeping his points intact going into the second half of the season.
 

tennisfan87

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600 from Miami, and a handful from IW.

He will need to win IW and make the final of Miami again to stand much chance of keeping his points intact going into the second half of the season.

It's only a third round and 45 points; where did you get 'handful' from? And I think he can certainly improve from a QF loss in both Monte Carlo and Barcelona.
 

zep

Hall of Fame
Did you see the Tim Smyczek match? Nadal is going to put all his eggs in one basket. The RG basket. The rest of the season will be about recuperation and damage control.

Oh and I thought my calculation was wrong. I guess we will see. :)
 
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Deleted member 55539

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So majorly nadal is defending a final in Miami.. and a win in Rio.. does anyone know if he is playing Rio this year? I would be surprised if he did..

But i guess the other guys are not defending much.. especially murray..

maybe he has a decent shot at taking over nadal..

I want to see if 2 guys can take over him before RG.. so that he is ranked 5 and would be his toughest RG to date..
 

reaper

Legend
The result has minimal impact on Nadal's ranking. He goes down to number 4 at worst I would think. Further losses in tournaments where he's defending points would obviously affect his ranking...that's what happens when other players are better than you...your ranking drops.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Roger Federer could be affected too since he drop one round earlier then Nadal did. But who knows until the tournament is over what the standing will be.

Rafa could stay the same or go down one or two to 4 or 5 or 6 from 3!

Federer's standing is secure for now. He'll still have 9245 pts at the end of the AO. If Kei should win the AO, he'll get 6845 pts. No one else can get any more than that with an AO win (except Novak, of course).
 

kOaMaster

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The result has minimal impact on Nadal's ranking. He goes down to number 4 at worst I would think. Further losses in tournaments where he's defending points would obviously affect his ranking...that's what happens when other players are better than you...your ranking drops.

Or, in Nadals case: When you don't play.
 
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