ektelon stringing machine...questions.

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  1. gvsbdisco

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    Hi Everyone

    I came across an Ektelon stringer on a local ad site. I currently have a drop weight stringer and all my stringing experience is on that machine. I know nothing about the lock out machines.

    The person selling the machine doesn't seem to know a lot about it and I don't know the back story.

    Based on the pictures (link below) what can people tell me:

    1. Model?
    2. when I go to look at it what should I be looking for?
    3. Anything and everything I should consider before making an offer...I am flying blind.

    Pictures can be found here:
    https://imgur.com/a/H9vTnoT

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  2. Steve Huff

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    How much are they paying you to haul it off?
     
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  3. gvsbdisco

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    lol...that bad?
     
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    I like the cabinet
     
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  5. dak95_00

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    1) I’d guess it is a Model DE. The nameplate is shown in the second picture where the blue paint on the arm. The good news it has the Model H upgrades so it’ll mount any and all racquets. The bad is the throat side appears to be missing but could be in one of those boxes.

    2) Are all of the pieces there? It needs both long glide bars and both clamps. They can be found if not there. I have extras. The one pictured has a NEOS clamp on it so that means it was upgraded. The upgrades are very good news!

    Can you mount a racquet to it? Are the parts there?

    3) If everything is there it would be a bargain at $300. I’d buy it based upon the pictures for $75-125 without hesitation. If most things are there but it’s a little sketchy as to if all pieces are there, I’d go no higher than $150.

    If it was perfect and had everything and shown to be working correctly, it would be worth as much as $600 at the very top end of the market. Recap: $300-600 if complete and proven functional. $75-125 and you can part it out on eDay and make money.
     
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  6. dak95_00

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    Upon another look, the throat bar is there. Are the retainer clamps there to mount the frame. It’s really just the precursor to the NEOS 1000. Find a video analysis of it and you’ll be able to see what and how it works.

    My $$$ amounts haven’t changed. I bet it’s all there.
     
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  7. PBODY99

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    I would mount a frame ,check for the clamps and rails both being present, a pair of short rails for the crosses is nice but not necessary.
    I agree with Dak95
     
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  8. MAX PLY

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    Agree with dak—you may need to buy a few parts and you definitely will need to invest some sweat equity to spruce it up (do a search on how to clean one of these up). I’d start at $120 but based solely on the pic might go as high as 250. The seller is almost going to have to sell locally. It’s really quite cost prohibitive to ship.
     
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    Thank you everyone for your detailed replies. All very helpful. I am going to get hold of a manual first and then go check it out.
     
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  10. dak95_00

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    @maxply has the manual for these. He is an expert on the ins and outs of the machine. I’ve owned and resold many from the D, DE, F and the Neos 1000. That cabinet is great. I believe it was an upgrade for the H. I have the cabinet and use it with my Neos 1000 which is the machine I use today with a Wise tension head.

    If you really need an expert analysis, contact the famous JC from tennismachines.com because he IS THE AUTHORITY on all machines Prince/Ektelon.
     
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  11. gvsbdisco

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    thank you for this. Another question. Assuming this machine checks out is it a good machine to upgrade with a wise tension head. thanks
     
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  12. dak95_00

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    The Wise was invented with THIS machine in mind!
     
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  13. Steve Huff

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    If local, have the seller mount and string a racket. The lack of a mounting arm is what has me concerned most.
     
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  14. dak95_00

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    It’s there in the third photo right in front of the box inside the cabinet on the top shelf.
     
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    so I pulled the trigger and bought the machine. The seller really didn't know much and nor did I so it was a bit of a leap of faith.

    Some questions about images here:
    https://imgur.com/a/sXN1LSy

    1. first image shows all I could find wrt racquet mounting items. Feels like there is some stuff missing. If so, what is it (the only machine I know is an alpha pioneer dc plus)?

    2. in the fourth image, there is a slot on a cylinder...seems when you turn the cylinder it locks the frame mount thingy down. So it seems like I am missing a piece that fits in the slot to allow for easy turning. Is that right? The other 'side' has a lever that locks the frame thingy down

    3. the rest of the pics are other stuff that came with it. So the glide bars with the clamps; an old floating clamp; those half sized glide bars (not sure what those are for)...one has a clamp on it one doesn't; then some older clamps (maybe the originals?); one broken clamp (not shown); and finally a tool that I have no idea what it is for (grommets?)...it is a yonex tool. THe whole package came with some other random metal pieces and knobs in plastic bags; a couple tool kits one with a bazillion grommets (badminton I think) and hundreds of small round pads (some leather some synthetic).

    Anyway, lmk your thoughts. Thanks everyone.

    Oh, and there was also an ektelon tension calibrator.
     
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  16. dak95_00

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    It looks nearly complete. This video is not me and is not great but it should work to answer many questions you have.

     
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  17. dak95_00

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    The small glide bars are for crosses if you wanted to use them. Most experienced strings just use a single long bar when doing the crosses.
     
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  18. Steve Huff

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    Don't throw the half-length glide bars away. They really come in handy when stringing an ATW (around-the-world) pattern, which you may need to do on some rackets. The "thingy" you referred to that holds to racket down have a post that fits into the hole on the mounting arm. Inside the lower part are "dogs", which pull the post down to tighten it into place to hold the racket firmly. It looks like you'll need a mounting arm, the one you adjust for racket length. Most of this you can do yourself if you get the parts. Still, I hope you didn't pay too much for the machine.
     
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  19. dak95_00

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    @Steve Huff
    Look at the pictures he just posted. That mounting arm is there. Don’t confuse him. What he needs to find are the white plastic cylinder pieces that hold the head of the racquet and possibly a few other throat retainer pieces.

    It’s easier to do an ATW with a floating clamp than using the short bars IMO.
     
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  20. MAX PLY

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    Send me your e-mail and I can send you an H manual (or a Neos manual, or both). The manuals will give you a good idea of all the parts so you can take inventory. Most of the parts you will need (like tip plugs) can be procured at tennis machines dot com. But before you order make sure of what you need--I also suggest mounting a racquet to make sure the racquet clamps and bulldogs work properly. Also take a good gander at the clamps--looks like they are the later H version which are very similar to the Neos clamps to see if you need an upgrade. Hopefully your calibrator works as well. Not sure what you paid but it looks like you got an almost complete machine with the cabinet. Looks like it will need some restoring but that process can be fun. Personally, I would clean it up and repaint it (search my posts and you will see a primer on what to do) while you are waiting for your parts to arrive. And, you've got to get rid of that astroturf on the tray-- I don't think the tool tray pad for the Neos will fit that so your options are either bermuda grass, fescue or perhaps just trimming a plastic desk pad or placemat to fit. Enjoy your new find.
     
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  21. dak95_00

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    That’s funny! I can confirm that the Neos pad does not fit.

    OP,
    How much did you pay?
     
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  22. gvsbdisco

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    150
    150 USD
     
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  23. gvsbdisco

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    got the manuals....thanks you for sending them.
     
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    Aftermarket racquet mount upgrades for the Ektelon machines can be found on line by searching for ektelon mount upgrade
     
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  25. dak95_00

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    I can confirm that @David 110 ’s upgrades are great. I can also confirm that you can very simply screw wheels onto the bottom of the cabinet to allow it to roll around.
     
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  26. Steve Huff

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    Dak--I always liked using the short bar (just 1 of them) for ATW patterns. Of course, there are so many ATW patterns used, it may be easier with the floating clamp for the one you use.
     
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    Looking for some assistance. I have cleaned the machine up a bit. During that process I took the 'dogs' apart to soak them in alcohol. However, I am now having problems reassembling. Do others who have done this have some tips? I feel like i am going to damage the springs. @MAX PLY
     
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  28. Steve Huff

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    Call Tennis Machines. He'll probably just walk you through it. I changed mine before I sold it, but its been 15 or more years.
     
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