Elbow problems when hitting with a western FH

[Quadium]

I'm starting to get elbow troubles once i started hitting again with a western FH grip. I've been using the semi-western but i'm not generating enough topspin. After a set of using a western grip, my arm feels like rubber and is very sensitive to hits. Please give me some pointers.

 

[supineAnimation]

While the change in grips will change the angle of the racquet face during your swing, changing to a more western grip, in and of itself, is not going to make you hit effectively with more topspin. Look how much top Federer gets on the ball using an eastern grip. Topspin is a product of swing path and the wrist/forearm action that occurs in the stretch shortening cycle as the wrist extends and flexes and the forearm supinates and pronates. Work on improving those aspects of your stroke with the grip you're most comfortable with and you will develop the ability to produce more topspin than you will be simply changing your grip.

 

[Quadium]

While the change in grips will change the angle of the racquet face during your swing, changing to a more western grip, in and of itself, is not going to make you hit effectively with more topspin. Look how much top Federer gets on the ball using an eastern grip. Topspin is a product of swing path and the wrist/forearm action that occurs in the stretch shortening cycle as the wrist extends and flexes and the forearm supinates and pronates. Work on improving those aspects of your stroke with the grip you're most comfortable with and you will develop the ability to produce more topspin than you will be simply changing your grip.

alright, thanks for the tip.

 

[LeeD]

Dude, why do you want to hit with more topspin?
You just swing too fast for your physiology and ruin your body.
Why not learn to hit thru the ball with SW grip and get all the topspin to keep it in the court if you control the ball height over the net?
Don't loop 7' over the netcord, instead hit it 3' over the net cord with a slower swing, but a flatter, faster moving ball.

 

[Slazenger07]

The amount of topspin you can generate really isnt influenced by the grip you use, like has been said already it has to do with swing path and wrist action. I personally use an Eastern Grip Forehand but I generate ALOT of topspin my typical forehand, I have a lot of wrist action and a very loopy swing, those are the keys. Then you must have a good feel for brushing the ball, once you get those things down you can generate ridiculous amounts of topspin with an Eastern, Semi-Western, or Western grip.

 

[Slazenger07]

Dude, why do you want to hit with more topspin?
You just swing too fast for your physiology and ruin your body.
Why not learn to hit thru the ball with SW grip and get all the topspin to keep it in the court if you control the ball height over the net?
Don't loop 7' over the netcord, instead hit it 3' over the net cord with a slower swing, but a flatter, faster moving ball.

He doesnt want to do this because this is the way most people hit, he should use his loopy shots and drive the people he plays crazy trying to time their shots off of his high arching, heavy spin shots.

If it works for Nadal, it'll work for us.

 

[Quadium]

The amount of topspin you can generate really isnt influenced by the grip you use, like has been said already it has to do with swing path and wrist action. I personally use an Eastern Grip Forehand but I generate ALOT of topspin my typical forehand, I have a lot of wrist action and a very loopy swing, those are the keys. Then you must have a good feel for brushing the ball, once you get those things down you can generate ridiculous amounts of topspin with an Eastern, Semi-Western, or Western grip.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll try this when i go hit later today. Are their any good video tutorials on a nice fh?

 

[86golf]

You could be pronating too early or too much, especially if you are trying to "force" some top on the ball. At contact, is your racquet head below or above your handle?
First thing you need to do is understand what part of the elbow is getting inflammed. Go to your tool box and get a hammer out. Hold the hammer about 2 inches from the bottom of the handle and rest your wrist on your knee in a sitting position. With the hammer head pointing straight up, roll your forearm clockwise until the hammer is parallel to the floor then roll back counterclockwise until the hammer is perpendicular to the floor. Then do the same thing in the other direction. If the first motion hurts but not the second one then you have golfers elbow. If the second motion hurts but not the first you have tennis elbow.

GE can get inflammed from heavy pronation hitting forehands and even more so from serving. Also, hitting late can cause problems as well as not enough separation to the ball.

TE is usually related to hitting one handed backhands.

 

[papa]

The amount of topspin you can generate really isnt influenced by the grip you use, ..............

Your not exactly correct on this because the angle of the racquet face on impact does influence topspin along with the path of the racquet.

 

[Quadium]

Your not exactly correct on this because the angle of the racquet face on impact does influence topspin along with the path of the racquet.

Thats what i though too.