#Embarrasing: Stop Making #Stans2015FO All About #Novak

Dan Z

Semi-Pro
its the same as if someone litters their posts with random ASCII characters for no reason. childish and utterly pointless. if she returns perhaps she'll grow up and stop it as sometimes she does make very good posts (disregarding the pointless #'s )
 

PeteUSA

Banned
Djoker got applause after the final. It was unreal. The french crowd is known for being the most rude.

But they gave the player who lost the final standing ovations like Louis XII !!!

REMARKABLE
 

dParis

Hall of Fame
#this.

#it #was #beyond #annoying #and #basically #unreadable.

In that case, thank God no one was making you read her posts. Personally, I probably read about 10% of her posts that I happened to see. Somehow, I remained unbothered, #Miracle?
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
In that case, thank God no one was making you read her posts. Personally, I probably read about 10% of her posts that I happened to see. Somehow, I remained unbothered, #Miracle?

#thecreekdidn'trise

Maybe she wanted to go to a better place. You know, like to share her banishment with Don Kikiote. Can you imagine the poasts if they collaborated???
 
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JRAJ1988

Guest
The fact Novak got pushed by Andy Murray of all people on Clay shows Novak is somewhat overrated within the tennis aficionado community and a beneficiary of a weak era, finally though there is someone for the time being who can expose Novak for the fact his only "real" adversaries are a Scottish mental midget who's scared to beat him and a 34 year old legend who clearly does better in a best of 3 scenario.

Wawrinka was the one who looked like a rock who was destined for glory at the French Open but we didn't see it coming. Beating Federer on Clay is now harder than beating Nadal on Clay given Nadal's plummet, the guy lost to Fognini twice on Clay this year.

We are in a Weak Transitional Era now, all Stan needs to do is be more consistent with his "Inner Stanimal" then he will dominate for a little while.

Federer and Nadal's competition from 2004-2009 was way stronger

Do I dislike Djokovic? No I don't and I will always give him his due like when he won Wimbledon last year.

There's players like Kokkinakis, Coric, Chung and co who're gonna step up. I don't understand why #Angie has been banned either, her posts are more making light of than "let's be offensive for the sake of it"
 
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dParis

Hall of Fame
#thecreekdidn'trise��

Maybe she wanted to go to a better place. You know, like to share her banishment with Don Kikiote. Can you imagine the poasts if they collaborated???��

Maybe #thecreekdidn'trise but #thekikdidrise.

#thekikster has been #resurrected!

#PTL

(Praise The LedZeppelin)​
 
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PDJ

G.O.A.T.
The breath of fresh air, however brief, was quite refreshing.

#tilting@imaginarywindbag

For the record, I don't mind AngieB, quite like her - and we had quite a few run ins, indeed as she knows (I told her) I was instrumental in her first ban when she went too far. The # doesn't bother me at all- she sees it as her 'signature' and possibly realises it winds people up so does it all the more.
Kiki, I always thought was harmless until I read his political views. Beyond mad.
But no ban seems permanent. Although Chico never resurfaced so I can only assume he chose not to come back?
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
For the record, I don't mind AngieB, quite like her - and we had quite a few run ins, indeed as she knows (I told her) I was instrumental in her first ban when she went too far. The # doesn't bother me at all- she sees it as her 'signature' and possibly realises it winds people up so does it all the more.
Kiki, I always thought was harmless until I read his political views. Beyond mad.
But no ban seems permanent. Although Chico never resurfaced so I can only assume he chose not to come back?

Multiple offenders do receive permabans if they really cross the line too far. I don't mind AngieB so maybe she'll get a major in minor bans.
 

RFGOAT1992

Semi-Pro
If he keeps winning one slam per year until a dominant young player comes along, he will be viewed as a transitional champion.

he is a transitional champ, fed and nadal are the true champs of this era. reason novak even stayed at the top cus nadal and fed are declining.
2013 for example novak was winning everything till nadal stormed back and denied him, and took the#1 spot from him
 

Tiger8

Semi-Pro
he is a transitional champ, fed and nadal are the true champs of this era. reason novak even stayed at the top cus nadal and fed are declining.
2013 for example novak was winning everything till nadal stormed back and denied him, and took the#1 spot from him

A player can't be a transitional champion if he's had 3 YE#1 (and 4th one likely coming). A transitional champion is someone who is at the top for a short period of time. Now if you think 150 weeks is a short time, than I guess you have a point.
 

AngieB

Banned
BUT: for me it is fair to say that Novak really didn't choke. He had a chance to break again in the 4th set, Novak up 0/40 on Stan's serve. At the moment Stan played some of the most amazing tennis I've ever seen. He went into god-mode.

Stan played some of the most amazing tennis today that I've seen in years. So full credit to Stan for his magnificent play today!
#STANISLAS, as inexperienced as he might be in grand slam finals, had absolutely no problem putting forth his #best effort in the two finals he played against the two best of his generation. He clearly knows and values those #chances, in spite of not being a top player day-in and day-out.

I do applaud your efforts in mitigating the damage which has been done to #NOVAK's psyche by losing so many times in the latest stages of the largest, #major tournaments in tennis. I am beginning to come around to your line of thinking. #NOVAK didn't choke. He lost the match before stepping on the court because of his previous failings in #Paris. This was his #last, best chance of winning the #FO.

My hope is that #STANISLAS will take this victory and make an effort to become more consistent and go deep into the main draw of grand slam events, comforted in the knowledge that if he meets #NOVAK in another #GS final, his chances of winning again exponentially increases. #Lord willing but the creek don't rise.

#AngiesLyst
 

AngieB

Banned
And a fresh glass of Lipton ice tea :)
I never felt the same about #LiptonTea since the #CHRIS Evert commercials of the #1970's. I mean, who drinks iced tea while playing tennis? Besides, everyone knows that tall drink wasn't the freshest of the #HUGE supply. #GirlBye

#AngiesLyst
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
I never felt the same about #LiptonTea since the #CHRIS Evert commercials of the #1970's. I mean, who drinks iced tea while playing tennis? Besides, everyone knows that tall drink wasn't the freshest of the #HUGE supply. #GirlBye

#AngiesLyst

Hey Ange, glad to see you back. :)
 
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RFGOAT1992

Semi-Pro
A player can't be a transitional champion if he's had 3 YE#1 (and 4th one likely coming). A transitional champion is someone who is at the top for a short period of time. Now if you think 150 weeks is a short time, than I guess you have a point.

note the YE#1 like i said he's only at the top when the there's no one to challenge him, in 2012 he barely got the YE#1 at the very final of WTF, then start 2013 he was #1 till the clay season start where nadal came back like a hurricane and swept him aside, 2014 nadal was injured since melbourne and was out half the year, leaving only Roger to contest with him, with roger past 30 he still able to push nole to the max 3 or 5 set whenever they meet. so yea he is a transitional champ because he's only at the top for a short time before a healthy nadal takes it from him, transitional champ also means when the top guys(nadal or federer) are no longer as strong as before, and another more healthy player takes their place because of it, not because he is the better player.
 
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Tiger8

Semi-Pro
note the YE#1 like i said he's only at the top when the there's no one to challenge him, in 2012 he barely got the YE#1 at the very final of WTF, then start 2013 he was #1 till the clay season start where nadal came back like a hurricane and swept him aside, 2014 nadal was injured since melbourne and was out half the year, leaving only Roger to contest with him, with roger past 30 he still able to push nole to the max 3 or 5 set whenever they meet. so yea he is a transitional champ because he's only at the top for a short time before a healthy nadal takes it from him, transitional champ also means when the top guys(nadal or federer) are no longer as strong as before, and another more healthy player takes their place because of it, not because he is the better player.

This really doesn't deserve a comment back, but too tempting.

First, whether he "barely" got the YE#1 or not is irrelevant, he ended up getting it. Nadal also got the YE#1 the next year at the WTF, also "barely", but no one cares because he still got it.

Second, Nadal injured since Melbourne? Lol what? He was fine until the North American swing, which he skipped because of wrist problems. He was there for the first half the season and briefly for the second. I don't really understand how it's Djokovic's fault if Nadal's injured?

Only at the top for a short time... 150 weeks at number 1. 3 YE#1's. Short time. :lol:

A transitional champion is someone who wins for a short time in between two more dominant champions. Not only is it stupid to call Djokovic a transitional champion because you don't know if someone more dominant will come after him, but his accomplishments are nothing close to "transitional". As someone else said, Hewitt would be a kind of transitional champion, between Sampras and Federer. You can also maybe count Roddick in there too. You're going to call someone who's in the top 13 for Grand Slam counts ever a transitional champion? Delusion is not a good enough word to describe it. :lol:
 

AngieB

Banned
A transitional champion is someone who wins for a short time in between two more dominant champions. Not only is it stupid to call Djokovic a transitional champion because you don't know if someone more dominant will come after him, but his accomplishments are nothing close to "transitional". As someone else said, Hewitt would be a kind of transitional champion, between Sampras and Federer. You can also maybe count Roddick in there too. You're going to call someone who's in the top 13 for Grand Slam counts ever a transitional champion? Delusion is not a good enough word to describe it. :lol:
#IvanLendl is largely seen as a transitional champion between #Borg and #Sampras because of his inability to win consistently at the latter stages of grand slam events in spite of his weeks at number one.. #GS wins matter.

#NovakDjokovic is largely seen as a transitional champion after #Fedal because of his inability to win consistently at the latter stages of grand slam events in spite of his weeks at number one. #GS wins matter.

The difference between #NovakDjokovic and #Fedal post #PeteSampras is that #Fedal made history, #NovakDjokovic hasn't made history, which makes him transitional. (...and sorry, but #5AO titles isn't historic). Given #NovakDjokovic's built-in advantage in the #2015FO finals and he still couldn't get the job done, it's likely he never #WILL.

If you paid closer attention to actual tennis history instead of your feelings, your views might be seen as objective, albeit, it's too late for that, can't stop the music. #GirlBye

#AngiesLyst
 
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tennis_commentator

Hall of Fame
Novak is the unrivaled #1 and plays the greatest tennis the world has seen.

Nadal peaked at 2008 Roland Garros and Djokovic had to wait 7 years to beat him :lol:
Federer peaked at 2007 Wimbledon and Djokovic needed 5 sets to beat him at 2014 Wimbledon Final :lol:
Djokovic needed 5 sets to beat Federer at 2010 and 2011 US Open, and Djokovic has lost 2 of 3 meetings with Nadal at US Open.
And Djokovic needed 6 hours to beat Nadal at the Australian Open - Djokovic's best slam event :lol:
 

moonballs

Hall of Fame
Nadal peaked at 2008 Roland Garros and Djokovic had to wait 7 years to beat him :lol:
Federer peaked at 2007 Wimbledon and Djokovic needed 5 sets to beat him at 2014 Wimbledon Final :lol:
Djokovic needed 5 sets to beat Federer at 2010 and 2011 US Open, and Djokovic has lost 2 of 3 meetings with Nadal at US Open.
And Djokovic needed 6 hours to beat Nadal at the Australian Open - Djokovic's best slam event :lol:

Well it was more like the whole field had to wait 7 years to beat Nadal, because quite a few others could have also beaten Nadal in 2015 RG. 7 years since his peak, but the very first time since biological passport was introduced in tennis. Maybe we should see whether his RR performance in WTF rivals the Spanish soccer team's performance in the last World Cup (also the first one after Fifa introduced biological passport).
 

moonballs

Hall of Fame
Don't buy into this "transitional" champion label... It is supposed to contrasting the "true" or "real" champs like Fedal. But the opposite ennglish word for real or true is "fake". Obviously it is foolish to call anyone winning real slams fake champs so that is how this transitional champ term is invented to hint at some sort of illegitimacy of someone's true accomplishments.
 

JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
Don't buy into this "transitional" champion label... It is supposed to contrasting the "true" or "real" champs like Fedal. But the opposite ennglish word for real or true is "fake". Obviously it is foolish to call anyone winning real slams fake champs so that is how this transitional champ term is invented to hint at some sort of illegitimacy of someone's true accomplishments.


How about Jokovic Cheats - How does that affect his legitimacy eh ?
 

dParis

Hall of Fame
Don't buy into this "transitional" champion label... It is supposed to contrasting the "true" or "real" champs like Fedal. But the opposite ennglish word for real or true is "fake". Obviously it is foolish to call anyone winning real slams fake champs so that is how this transitional champ term is invented to hint at some sort of illegitimacy of someone's true accomplishments.

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sdont

Legend
This thread lefts me wondering whether the people happy with AngieB's returning are troll themselves or just not so bright.

I mean, AngieB's such an obvious attention-seeking troll...
 

JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
This thread lefts me wondering whether the people happy with AngieB's returning are troll themselves or just not so bright.

I mean, AngieB's such an obvious attention-seeking troll...

Well, whoever or whatever he or she is. -'They' are back !

I definitely saw the word 'Banned' under the name.

Was it a real ban ? What was it for ?????

Also what defines a Troll ? - If it is to exclude a good 4/5th of the posters on here ! LOL !

And what's wrong with attention seeking? - Everybody 'seeks attention'. I'd say that covers to 99.9% of the posters here. - Possibly more !...
 

Tiger8

Semi-Pro
#IvanLendl is largely seen as a transitional champion between #Borg and #Sampras because of his inability to win consistently at the latter stages of grand slam events in spite of his weeks at number one.. #GS wins matter.

#NovakDjokovic is largely seen as a transitional champion after #Fedal because of his inability to win consistently at the latter stages of grand slam events in spite of his weeks at number one. #GS wins matter.

The difference between #NovakDjokovic and #Fedal post #PeteSampras is that #Fedal made history, #NovakDjokovic hasn't made history, which makes him transitional. (...and sorry, but #5AO titles isn't historic). Given #NovakDjokovic's built-in advantage in the #2015FO finals and he still couldn't get the job done, it's likely he never #WILL.

If you paid closer attention to actual tennis history instead of your feelings, your views might be seen as objective, albeit, it's too late for that, can't stop the music. #GirlBye

#AngiesLyst

Who sees Lendl as a transitional champion? You're the only person I've ever heard who's said that. :lol: Once again, you're showing that you don't know what a transitional champion is. Btw, being a transitional champion isn't a negative thing (to me), so no offense towards someone like Hewitt.

So basically every other champion except for Laver, Borg, Sampras, Federer, and Nadal is a transitional champion? My god...

You using the term objective is too funny :lol: You're a Nadal lover and irrational Djokovic hater, you're the last person who should be preaching about objectivity. Your sentence about Djokovic winning 5 AO's isn't historical basically sums up your blindness. This isn't the 1980's, all of the top players play the AO, it's just as much of a Grand Slam than the other 3 are. Djokovic's 5 Australian Open's are historical, and that's a fact.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
#IvanLendl is largely seen as a transitional champion between #Borg and #Sampras because of his inability to win consistently at the latter stages of grand slam events in spite of his weeks at number one.. #GS wins matter.

...........
#AngiesLyst

Now we have heard everything we needed to hear on the internet.

Can you be any more funny ?


If Lendl is a transitional champion , McEnroe and Connors must be journeymen.
 

JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
Who is ANGIE ?

She (or He) seems to create a lot of controversy for a relatively low post counter ...
 

AngieB

Banned
Now we have heard everything we needed to hear on the internet.

Can you be any more funny ?


If Lendl is a transitional champion , McEnroe and Connors must be journeymen.

#No.

If it weren't for Lendl's coaching, no one would even be talking about him right now. He's largely been forgotten about the past 20 years with the exception of his publicized #ITHOF induction.

The difference between #Connors/#McEnroe and #Lendl is #Wimbledon and if you can't figure out that distinction, you shouldn't have enjoined yourself with this discussion. #GirlBye

#AngiesLyst
 

AngieB

Banned
This isn't the 1980's, all of the top players play the AO, it's just as much of a Grand Slam than the other 3 are. Djokovic's 5 Australian Open's are historical, and that's a fact.
The last I read, #RoyEmerson holds the #AO men's singles record of (6). Again, how are #Novak's (5) AO's historic?

It's a shame you sacrifice your own credibility in a vain attempt to one-up someone. You should learn to be more honest, not only to the forum, but more importantly yourself. #GirlBye

#AngiesLyst
 

PDJ

G.O.A.T.
#No.

If it weren't for Lendl's coaching, no one would even be talking about him right now. He's largely been forgotten about the past 20 years with the exception of his publicized #ITHOF induction.

The difference between #Connors/#McEnroe and #Lendl is #Wimbledon and if you can't figure out that distinction, you shouldn't have enjoined yourself with this discussion. #GirlBye

#AngiesLyst

But neither McEnroe or Connor won RG - although the latter being banned didn't help his cause.
 

Tiger8

Semi-Pro
The last I read, #RoyEmerson holds the #AO men's singles record of (6). Again, how are #Novak's (5) AO's historic?

It's a shame you sacrifice your own credibility in a vain attempt to one-up someone. You should learn to be more honest, not only to the forum, but more importantly yourself. #GirlBye

#AngiesLyst

The last I read, he has the Open Era record. No offense to Emerson, but the lack of competition during that time is well documented, you should know that yourself. Yes yes tell me more about my lack of honesty, might as well tell me more about my life too :lol:
 

AngieB

Banned
The last I read, he has the Open Era record. No offense to Emerson, but the lack of competition during that time is well documented, you should know that yourself. Yes yes tell me more about my lack of honesty, might as well tell me more about my life too :lol:
What is it about your generation that thinks tennis didn't exist for 80+ years before the Open Era? OpenEra-only statistics weren't even referred to until #Wikipedia made that distinction over a decade ago. The #ITF and #ITFHOF doesn't distinguish grand slam events by "Open Era" or "Pre Open Era". So why are #YOU?

Once again, the #ITHOF and the #ITF are pretty clear about #RoyEmerson holding the #AO record, NOT #Novak. I would suggest to open a book and learn something about tennis history instead of relying solely on the user-edited, inaccurate #Wikipedia. #GirlBye

#
AngiesLyst
 
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RFGOAT1992

Semi-Pro
This really doesn't deserve a comment back, but too tempting.

First, whether he "barely" got the YE#1 or not is irrelevant, he ended up getting it. Nadal also got the YE#1 the next year at the WTF, also "barely", but no one cares because he still got it.

Second, Nadal injured since Melbourne? Lol what? He was fine until the North American swing, which he skipped because of wrist problems. He was there for the first half the season and briefly for the second. I don't really understand how it's Djokovic's fault if Nadal's injured?

Only at the top for a short time... 150 weeks at number 1. 3 YE#1's. Short time. :lol:

A transitional champion is someone who wins for a short time in between two more dominant champions. Not only is it stupid to call Djokovic a transitional champion because you don't know if someone more dominant will come after him, but his accomplishments are nothing close to "transitional". As someone else said, Hewitt would be a kind of transitional champion, between Sampras and Federer. You can also maybe count Roddick in there too. You're going to call someone who's in the top 13 for Grand Slam counts ever a transitional champion? Delusion is not a good enough word to describe it. :lol:


2012 wins for first half, federer came back and take world#1 from him, barely got it back against federer.

2013, nadal was out half the year, came back at clay season from then on nadal won almost all tourney took the number 1 spot from djoko

2014 nadal lost aus final due to back injuries, and was sufferring from bunch of other ailments. not novaks fault but like i said he only dominates when nadal or federer is not around.

2015 he has no opposition, amazing he still lost the french:oops:
 

Tiger8

Semi-Pro
What is it about your generation that thinks tennis didn't exist for 80+ years before the Open Era? OpenEra-only statistics weren't even referred to until #Wikipedia made that distinction over a decade age. The #ITF and #ITFHOF doesn't distinguish grand slam events by "Open Era" or "Pre Open Era". So why are #YOU?

Once again, the #ITHOF and the #ITF are pretty clear about #RoyEmerson holding the #AO record, NOT #Novak. I would suggest to open a book and learn something about tennis history instead of relying solely on the user-edited, inaccurate #Wikipedia. #GirlBye

#
AngiesLyst

Lol Wikipedia didn't do that, it's a logical thing to do when you consider the Open era is when the pros were allowed to compete with the amateurs. Might want to call TV tennis providers like ESPN, cause when Djokovic won this year they said that Djokovic had the Open era record. How dare they!! :lol:

As someone else told you on another thread, anyone with eyes can see that Emerson's competition at the AO was very thin. I don't take anything away from Emerson, but it's a fact that his main rivals weren't playing those tournaments against him, making life much easier.
 

Tiger8

Semi-Pro
2012 wins for first half, federer came back and take world#1 from him, barely got it back against federer.

2013, nadal was out half the year, came back at clay season from then on nadal won almost all tourney took the number 1 spot from djoko

2014 nadal lost aus final due to back injuries, and was sufferring from bunch of other ailments. not novaks fault but like i said he only dominates when nadal or federer is not around.

2015 he has no opposition, amazing he still lost the french:oops:

Once again, "barely" is irrelevant, he still got it. Besides, Djokovic losing his number 1 ranking was kind of expected because of the year he had before. I for one didn't see him matching those results, so I expected him to lose it briefly.

Nadal was out half of the year in 2013? On what planet? He missed the Australian Open, came back and won Indian Wells, played rest of the season. Missed half of the season :lol:

Nadal's back injury cost him the 2014 AO title, okay. :lol:

You're points are factually wrong, Djokovic does just fine when his rivals are healthy, and he does fine when they're not healthy.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
There appears to be a disproportionate amount of attention focused on #Novak, his reaction at the trophy presentation, why he lost, Novak, Novak, Novak. Yet, it was #StanislasWawrinka who Is the #2015FO Champion.

It's time to give #Stan the respect he deserves as the #2105US Champion

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#AngiesLyst

Wow, so Stan's lining up the 2105 US Open for his next big win? He certainly likes to pace himself, doesn't he? ;)
 
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