Omg omg omg
By stalkers....the offence is stalking not being male.
Um.. what?
My point is actually that you're a walking talking gift to your poliitical opponents. Let's say two black men do an armed robbery. It's wrong to highlight their ethnicity as integral to the act because ethnicity is an involuntary biological characteristic. Similarly the sex of the stalkers is an involuntary biological characteristic. In highlighting the sex of the offenders in this instance you don't strengthen your point on the issue, you divide your readership.
You deciding to randomly say “two black men do an armed robbery” in a thread about a woman being stalked just spoke volumes to me about who you are as a poster….
It’s sad and scary that women have to go through this. these events need to maybe do a better job recognizing a lack of security on these courts might need to properly staff ahead of time.
Well it’s not generalising. The women on tour are and were being stalked by men. It’s sad you’re focusing on that and not what’s happening to the women.
I really don’t mean to interject- but you’re referencing facts that I agree with. And I’m sure if you ask a WTA player or several, they’ll align with what you said.
It's literally generalizing. The perpetrators are a tiny subset of men and you felt the need to say "by men" as if it's an issue with half the population instead of a small mentally ill portion of them. It's sad that you're focusing on generalizing about men instead of what's happening to women.
Banning is not enough. She needs a restraining order.
Well yeah cause the stalking is by men. I didn't say all men are bad, considering I am one. But seems to be every stalker of the women on tour are men.
Especially with what's happening with Rybakina and the so many other women on tour who've been abused by men like their partners or fathers on tour!
I know. My thoughts are to follow the facts but what do I know?Especially with what's happening with Rybakina and the so many other women on tour who've been abused by men like their partners or fathers on tour!
But forum users want to focus on defending men instead of caring about what the women are going through
Especially with what's happening with Rybakina and the so many other women on tour who've been abused by men like their partners or fathers on tour!
But forum users want to focus on defending men instead of caring about what the women are going through
Well yeah cause the stalking is by men. I didn't say all men are bad, considering I am one. But seems to be every stalker of the women on tour are men.
Anyway, you keep focusing on that issue, while I keep focusing on the safety of women...
Priorities
You're under the misconception that I can't focus on both. Did you not read my whole comment? But it's fine, we'll just continue to let it be socially acceptable to generalize about men, but not any other demographic. It's entirely possible for you to convey the same information without generalizations. That's all I'm saying.Especially with what's happening with Rybakina and the so many other women on tour who've been abused by men like their partners or fathers on tour!
But forum users want to focus on defending men instead of caring about what the women are going through
I wish more people realized you can advocate for one thing while still supporting another.
You spiraled off topic and twisted words.
You have a propensity to comment in a way that is both shrill and often personally directed. In terms of the substantive issue I suspect we're in furious agreement: that players who find themselves in positions similar to Radacanu's need protection from both tournament organisers and state authorities like police forces and the courts. An offender is unlikely to be dissuaded by being morally condemned on a message board. They'll find it more difficult to harass Radacanu if detained for the duration of the tournament, and assuming their stalking follows the tour, prevented from travelling internationally.
Reread the comments. I didn't start the "spiral". And I didn't twist anyone's words.
From what I'm reading he approached her in a public place in Dubai on Monday, he didn't approach her on the tournament site. So the WTA probably had no idea of what he even looked like (doubt he was arrested or anything - "fixated behavior" does sound vague and maybe police in Middle East aren't super vigilant on that sort of stuff unless its violent. maybe he just creeped her out and just walked away) until she saw him again on Tuesday.
@reaper
Thanks for posting this.
Ok so it's a cultural sensitivity thing. But does that necessarily mean he has an inherent bias, and even if he does, does that completely nullify his point, regardless of the example used?
Thanks. He claims it wasn't a generalization but I doubt he would acknowledge the fact the the same sentence without "by men" would convey the exact same message he claimed to be conveying. I'd ask him if it would be ok to say "by middle eastern people" as long as you didn't intend it as a generalization. Obviously it wouldn't. He knows he can't defend his word choice so he might as well accuse us of not caring about women.
Yah man, reportage can be offensive and add to the overall impact of the behaviour complained about. I'll fight for free speech, but also for responsible reporting. Expecting a generally sensitive, compassionate approach from the media / journalists is probably unrealistic.
What? "Black" is a race category in the US Census. Ever heard of Black History Month in the US?
Why would I?
