Empirical confirmation that Nadal was injured in Shanghai final.

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All of us could see how Nadal had lost mobility and couldn't return Federer's serve due to his knee problem in Shanghai. Nadal even had a bandage on his knee (something he didn't wear the whole 2017).

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Now Nadal has withdrawn from next week's Swiss Indoors in Basel to rest his sore knee. After visiting his physician in Spain, it has been determined that Nadal is suffering "an over stressing of the knee."

Source:

http://www.tennisnow.com/Blogs/NET-POSTS/October-2017/Nadal-Withdraws-From-Basel.aspx
 
The guy is perfect at getting the world to know he lost due to injury, without saying it. After the final:
Q. You put the bandage on your right knee. Did you do it for precaution or what?
RAFAEL NADAL: No. I don't want to talk about that now, sorry, but after losing final is not the moment.

Two days later, he pulls out of a tournament he most likely was not gonna play anyhow citing knee injury :eek::D.

You cannot make this stuff up.

Wishing the great bull a speedy recovery.
 
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Injury isn’t an excuse especially if it is completely due to your own playing style and schedule choice and your only competition on the entire tour is a 36 year old father of four that you specifically have a match up advantage as he plays with an outdated grip, racket size and one handed backhand and is right handed. Nadals body is also visibily very badly asymmetrical left fs right. How his Physio has let him get away with that I have no idea probably to scared as nadal is too superstitious to chnage his routines. Nadal FFS sort out your asymmetries.

And if you disagree and think injuries are a valid excuse then remove about 10 matches from nadals winnings against fed so head to head is actually led by fed now and also give fed many many moral slams. I can’t give fed moral slams only vamo bRigrdae can adminster them.
 
Chanwan said:
The guy is perfect at getting the world to know he lost due to injury, without saying it. After the final:
Q. You put the bandage on your right knee. Did you do it for precaution or what?
RAFAEL NADAL: No. I don't want to talk about that now, sorry, but after losing final is not the moment.

Two days later, he pulls out of a tournament he most likely was not gonna play anyhow citing knee injury :eek::D.

You cannot make this stuff up.

Wishing the great bull a speedy recovery.
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Do you propose he uses an invisible bandage? Or better yet, not use a bandage at all, lest he offends some delicate sensibilities?
 
Sport said:
All of us could see how Nadal had lost mobility and couldn't return Federer's serve due to his knee problem in Shanghai. Nadal even had a bandage on his knee (something he didn't wear the whole 2017).

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Now Nadal has withdrawn from next week's Swiss Indoors in Basel to rest his sore knee. After visiting his physician in Spain, it has been determined that Nadal is suffering "an over stressing of the knee."

Source:

http://www.tennisnow.com/Blogs/NET-POSTS/October-2017/Nadal-Withdraws-From-Basel.aspx
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Yeah, its' too bad his knee injury was self inflicted in the semis when he deliberately hit his knee with his racket in anger. Actually, the tape is over his shin and not his knee.
 
Sport said:
All of us could see how Nadal had lost mobility and couldn't return Federer's serve due to his knee problem in Shanghai. Nadal even had a bandage on his knee (something he didn't wear the whole 2017).

000_TE76C.jpg


Now Nadal has withdrawn from next week's Swiss Indoors in Basel to rest his sore knee. After visiting his physician in Spain, it has been determined that Nadal is suffering "an over stressing of the knee."

Source:

http://www.tennisnow.com/Blogs/NET-POSTS/October-2017/Nadal-Withdraws-From-Basel.aspx
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So he didn't have any problem running through the field in Beijing, and was only really tested by Dimitrov in Shanghai prior to the final, but suddenly he plays Fed in the final and he's hurt...

Give me a ****ing break. Every player is hurt this time of year.
 
Watched the replay today of the Fed-Rafa final at Basel in 2015, and Rafa had a very similar tape job below his knee throughout the match.

Was curious if the bandage first appeared in the final as with Shanghai. Almost.... no bandage at Basel until the middle of the first set of the semi-final against Gasquet.
 
In the spirit of fairness, though, I think it is, well, fair to note that the placement of the bandage/wrap/tape just below the knee is the correct place for many instances of knee pain. I have lots of chronic knee injuries from playing volleyball and soccer and this is the place to wrap a tight-ish bandage when one has pain just below the knee-cap which, in my case, is pretty much all the time :(

It is also a great way to alleviate stress on the knee and I think this is exactly what Rafa was doing. It works similar to how some tennis elbow bandages are not worn on the elbow but below it... and even the ones that cover the elbow often have a tightening velcro strap below the elbow.
 
Hitman said:
Well, regardless...Nadal IS the reigning defending undisputed heavyweight ATP men's singles number one player of the world....busted knees or not.
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Maybe if he weren't so "heavyweight" his knees wouldnt be so stressed ! ;)




When I read your poast I actually thought it was about suresh, esp due to the heavyweight part, then I saw "men's" and realized I was reading wrong, since suresh is still in the junior's section.
 
Sport said:
All of us could see how Nadal had lost mobility and couldn't return Federer's serve due to his knee problem in Shanghai. Nadal even had a bandage on his knee (something he didn't wear the whole 2017).

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Now Nadal has withdrawn from next week's Swiss Indoors in Basel to rest his sore knee. After visiting his physician in Spain, it has been determined that Nadal is suffering "an over stressing of the knee."

Source:

http://www.tennisnow.com/Blogs/NET-POSTS/October-2017/Nadal-Withdraws-From-Basel.aspx
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Regardless, he was beaten by Federer. He played 2014 Australian Open with a slight back problem. What happened? He still schooled Fed
 
mike danny said:
But Nadal admitted he wasn't injured. He said he had an over stressing of the knee which isn't the same thing as an injury.
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I mean you really did not notice movement issues of Nadal in that matches? You really did not sense something is odd?

It really tells how crazy popular Federer really is in this world and world is biased as side effects. I think that includes TV commentators. At least they should try to be neutral and not blinded by fanboyism, IMHO.

No wonder traditional journalism is dieing.
 
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ultradr said:
I mean you really did not notice movement issues of Nadal in that matches? You really did not sense something is odd?

It really tells how crazy popular Federer really is in this world and world is biased as side effects. I think that includes TV commentators. At least they should try to be neutral and not blinded by fanboyism, IMHO.

No wonder traditional journalism is dieing.
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SOUR GRAPES which means was talking trash before the match about an easy Nadal win.
 
I think it's mainly about strategy due to the constraints placed upon players to stop them missing tournaments.
Tennisanity said:
It's well established now that all of Nadal's 'injuries' are psychosomatic. When he feels helpless or is losing, the injuries will all of a sudden flare up. See AO14 final. Not uncommon.
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I think there is an injury problem with Nadal's knee. We can see it. But Nadal said himself in that match Federer's level was so incredibly high and the injury is not the difference in the result. Watch the match - Federer was playing like a lunatic. It's like what Nadal was doing at F.O. There wasn't much anyone could do when these players get into that zone.

Now what Nadal wants to do is get the knee better again, and again prepare to raise his level yet again to face Federer.

These two are constantly one-upping each other over and over again this year with what they can do on the court. It's fascinating.......

Nadal's hardcourt form may get even better and you can bet Federer's level at WTF might be the best he has played at that tourney in almost 5 years, so there is a lot of interesting stuff still to happen this year.

I am shocked at the hardcourt transformation Nadal has had this year returning to his best on this surface, but Roger's ability to bounce back from injury has also been incredible.
 
Chanwan said:
The guy is perfect at getting the world to know he lost due to injury, without saying it. After the final:
Q. You put the bandage on your right knee. Did you do it for precaution or what?
RAFAEL NADAL: No. I don't want to talk about that now, sorry, but after losing final is not the moment.

Two days later, he pulls out of a tournament he most likely was not gonna play anyhow citing knee injury :eek::D.

You cannot make this stuff up.
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You surely didn't notice this for the first time now ? :eek: This has been his standard modus operandi for years now.

Of course he would come with a bandage as he needed a preemptive excuse in case he lost for the fifth consecutive time against his one time pigeon when the said former pigeon is 36 years old.
 
every7 said:
I am shocked at the hardcourt transformation Nadal has had this year returning to his best on this surface, but Roger's ability to bounce back from injury has also been incredible.
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Sigh. "Hard court transformation". Is there any single year Nadal would not have won the USO if he was given a draw without top 25 ? And winning a slam whether it is vultured or not gives immense confidence, hence the much more confident play at Beijing and Shanghai, until of course he had to face the only guy he lost to 3 times earlier this year.
 
Nashvegas said:
Watched the replay today of the Fed-Rafa final at Basel in 2015, and Rafa had a very similar tape job below his knee throughout the match.

Was curious if the bandage first appeared in the final as with Shanghai. Almost.... no bandage at Basel until the middle of the first set of the semi-final against Gasquet.
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The bandage only appears when he has to play Fed you mean ?
 
sbengte said:
Sigh. "Hard court transformation". Is there any single year Nadal would not have won the USO if he was given a draw without top 25 ? And winning a slam whether it is vultured or not gives immense confidence, hence the much more confident play at Beijing and Shanghai, until of course he had to face the only guy he lost to 3 times earlier this year.
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I think he improved big time on hardcourts generally this year compared to the last few. Not saying he hasn't been great in the past. But I thought there had been a deterioration and a rubicon recently but I was mistaken. "Transformation" was possibly the wrong choice of word, making it seem like I thought he was never good on HC..... apologies.
 
every7 said:
I think he improved big time on hardcourts generally this year compared to the last few. Not saying he hasn't been great in the past. But I thought there had been a deterioration and a rubicon recently but I was mistaken. "Transformation" was possibly the wrong choice of word, making it seem like I thought he was never good on HC..... apologies.
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Maybe he comparatively improved from the last few years, but it happened due to the confidence from winning titles and slams and not the other way around.
 
sbengte said:
Maybe he comparatively improved from the last few years, but it happened due to the confidence from winning titles and slams and not the other way around.
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I think a lot of things prompted it. He went in without much confidence at AO at the start of this year and it was the best he has looked on those hard courts for quite a while imo so maybe a lot more than just titles.
 
mike danny said:
Dude, Nadal lost, get over it. Stop trying to explain a loss that would have still been a loss regardless.
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In MMA brazilian fighters are known for doing the same thing as Nadal does in tennis, they've got excuse making down to a fine art.
 
Nadal still has a matchup problem vs Fed on hard. He wasn't injured in the last 5 matches he's played against him.
Given Fed's age though, I'm not sure how much he should worry about it. Maybe he could just wait until Fed retires? ;) :p
 
Sport said:
All of us could see how Nadal had too much mobility and bounce and couldn't return Federer's serve due to his head problem in Shanghai. Nadal even had a bandage on his knee to distract attention from the bump on his bonce (something he didn't wear the whole 2017).

Now Nadal has withdrawn from next week's Swiss Indoors in Basel to rest his sore pate. After visiting his physician in Spain, it has been determined that Nadal is suffering "an over stressing of the pate."
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Whole thing was a mistranslation of poor little pate as patella

 
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