Emulating Rafa's forehand

#51
Not trying to be a jerk, but your FH is nothing like nadal's normal "flatter" forehand, nor his "match" topspin FH.
Your swingpath is actually more similar to a lot more extreme grip players such as Andy murray, Novak Djokovic, you just have a rafa preparation that you are trying to imitate.

You might all disagree with me and this might be controversial opinion, but in my mind, rafa copied a lot of federer's technique and incorporated in his FH and game. I can reproduce rafa's flatter FH if I use modified federer's FH mechanics with a lot of grip action and uses a pure aero.

Rafal's flatter (still spinny) forehand has changed a lot in the last 10-15 years. Initially he did use extreme grip, but lately his grip is more federer grip (strong eastern). Even his swing path is actually similar to federer.

A reverse FH is a shot where you finish on the same side, but rafa finishes on the non-dominant side.
His spinning game match FH uses a lot more arm than his body rotation, as he is concentrating only on generating topspin (to his right side as that's most righty's backhand), but the initial swing path is still federer's, he just don't use the normal follow through but a pull up version directly over his head and finish over to the "right" side of his head instead.

Now try to disagree with me, I would like to be proven wrong.
 
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#52
Not trying to be a jerk, but your FH is nothing like nadal's normal "flatter" forehand, nor his "match" topspin FH.
Your swingpath is actually more similar to a lot more extreme grip players such as Andy murray, Novak Djokovic, you just have a rafa preparation that you are trying to imitate.

You might all disagree with me and this might be controversial opinion, but in my mind, rafa copied a lot of federer's technique and incorporated in his FH and game. I can reproduce rafa's flatter FH if I use modified federer's FH mechanics with a lot of grip action and uses a pure aero.

Rafal's flatter (still spinny) forehand has changed a lot in the last 10-15 years. Initially he did use extreme grip, but lately his grip is more federer grip (strong eastern). Even his swing path is actually similar to federer.

A reverse FH is a shot where you finish on the same side, but rafa finishes on the non-dominant side.
His spinning game match FH uses a lot more arm than his body rotation, as he is concentrating only on generating topspin (to his right side as that's most righty's backhand), but the initial swing path is still federer's, he just don't use the normal follow through but a pull up version directly over his head and finish over to the "right" side of his head instead.

Now try to disagree with me, I would like to be proven wrong.
Too many claims. I can't comment on them. But I know what I'm doing and trying to achieve.
 
#56
Was referring to “But I know what I’m doing...”;)
Well, when I said '' I know what I'm doing'' I was referring to ''Trying to achieve a nice fluid throw type forehand with a lot of lag, a very good shoulder turn, being able to swing as hard as you can but still being able to keep the ball in?! ''
 
#58
So, which one is it?
But taking fundamentals are not the same as completely copy paste someones stroke to the last detail.
If you look at the recent video of mine u would see some similarities to fed, some similarities to wawrinka and even some things unlike none I know of the top pros, its not a copy paste of anyones forehand and neither are any of my other strokes.

But im done commenting about it anyway, since the old australian that I cant mention is ignoring me just because I disagree with him on an online forum, just shows his bad manners and immaturity and inability to have a conversation with someone who speaks his mind.
 
#59
Just leaving this here so you people see whos forehand actually looks more similar to this "rafa" forehand and stop feeding his delusions, and there are a few others also that look extremely similar.

 

Dragy

Professional
#60
@Curious not going to discuss the level of similarity to Rafa, I beg you to follow this one:
turn more shoulder in load up
You leave a lot of free power on the table, which hinders the flow and makes your swings less fluid. Look at Rafa, looks like just past 90 deg shoulder turn, while you get less than 90;

The stance issues might be responsible, so I'm with @mad dog1 here.
 

Dragy

Professional
#61
One disadvantage of a Nadal-type loopy FH prep is that it isn't as good on fast courts.

Exhibit 1: Nadal's success on clay vs. hardcourt.
Exhibit 2: Nadal's return-of-serve location practically in the stands, versus a more compact FH like Agassi (who would stand on the baseline against Sampras).

I personally recommend a more compact FH for most rec players (unless playing almost exclusively on clay or Har-Tru).
I respectfully disagree. I'm in belief Rafa stands back returning cause he prefers to hit a full FH on return, not a shortened-takeback one. And he has enough juice to deliver a strong, heavy ball even standing that far away, a ball few can take advantage of even with all the time they have.

Actually, Rafa hit numerous very fast-prepared run-arounds standing close to baseline, like almost noone else - it's more a footwork challenge, however, cause his takeback (current only I discuss) is one of the most compact on tour. Those shots usually win him points, as they are extremely unexpected, it never looks possible to make such a good shot from such a position.
 
#62
The forehand looks nothing like Rafa, and also emulating someone's forehand in my opinion is a bad idea, because everyone is different as far as their body goes, so everyone will have some slight unique properties depending on their body type, arm lenght, flexibility etc etc
But thats just my opinion, if you disagree think thats the way you should go then go for it, copy his forehand to the last detail, its just my opinion.

Now ignoring the fact that your forehand looks nothing like Rafa, your forehand itself looks very solid in my opinion, mechanics are there and u get good lag and nice racquet speed and the ball has nice spin.

So that makes me wonder, why are you not using this forehand in your matches? Because your forehand from the match video you posted is not even 1/10th of what this forehand is.
Okay I have to admit, I legit thought that you were emulating Fed based on your hitting videos.

I started emulating Rafa's WW forehand, but over time my grip became more conservative and lost the wrist c0ck takeback, so now everyone thinks I'm trying to copy Fed.

Edit: Nvm, just saw @navigator 's post. Did you change your mind on this point recently?
 
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#63
Well, when I said '' I know what I'm doing'' I was referring to ''Trying to achieve a nice fluid throw type forehand with a lot of lag, a very good shoulder turn, being able to swing as hard as you can but still being able to keep the ball in?! ''
I think it sounds like you know what you want.

But “I know what I want” is very different than “I know what I’m doing”.

I hope you achieve what you want! (y)
 
#64
You're wasting your time, there are strokes that an average players could try and imitate; Rafa's forehand isn't one of them. For a start you're nowhere close in that video and even if you managed to copy it, what is likely to happen is you will end up will loads of spin and no go.

Even Rafa struggles to get length on that shot when he is playing badly, an average club player wouldn't have a hope.
If you want to go down that route, then Fed's forehand shouldn't be imitated either.

The major differences b/w the two forehands as of 2019 are as follows:
  • Grip - Fed: EE, Nadal: SW (although based on recent photos I'm starting to think he's hitting with something close to an EE grip as well, explaining how he's hitting earlier far better and isn't hitting short as often as he used to)
  • Takeback - This is mostly a stylistic difference as opposed to a technical one
  • Follow-through - Fed bends his elbow more after contact as it wraps around his shoulder; Rafa's (WW FH) elbow bends significantly less after contact and his arm follows through more; Rafa does hit more reverse FHs more, but Fed hits loads of reverse FHs now
Not advocating that you should copy a particular pro just because they have a good shot, but there is certainly no harm in emulating certain things to see if they work for you personally. The elaborate Nadal takeback really helped with my timing when I was revamping my FH, and I've since dropped it once the major changes fell into place and my speed of play increased accordingly.

Pros, especially ATGs don't have inimitable techniques; they're ATGs because their techniques are as close to perfect as is possible, with a few style elements here and there, none of which normally get in the way of pure technique.

A stroke that is not an emulation of any pro results is a hack shot; the difficult part is separating fundamentals with personal flair. Copying the flair doesn't make the shot the same as the pro's, but it's not necessarily a bad thing.
 

jga111

Hall of Fame
#65
Swing path doesn't look right to me. I think it needs to be more vertical/perpendicular - maybe if you hit a bit looser and more brush it will be enough.
I'm not seeing enough looseness/snap-back at the lag.

The forehand itself is a good one. I didn't see you play with this in your match video - why don't you try it out in match conditions?

Myself personally I experimented with various styles - Djokovic/Murray/Thiem/Kyrgios. It's fun working out what forehand to play under what circumstances. My takeback and follow through now vary depending on how loose and how much feel of the ball I have (Kyrgios style is my favourite one).

Keep experimenting and I hope you find the mix that works for you soon.
 
#66
Swing path doesn't look right to me. I think it needs to be more vertical/perpendicular - maybe if you hit a bit looser and more brush it will be enough.
I'm not seeing enough looseness/snap-back at the lag.
Spot on. This is one of the issues I have already noticed. It’s not low to high enough because the racket doesnt drop enough and that is also related to not being loose enough hence lack of lag.
The second big issue is what @Dragy said above. That’s also spot on: lack of shoulder turn.
There was another point with the take back but I’ve already fixed it tonight.
 
#67
Spot on. This is one of the issues I have already noticed. It’s not low to high enough...
Your timing and eye hand coordination has got to be really good when your swing path is as steep as Rafa’s otherwise you’re going to be hitting some massive shanks. In fact when Rafa’s is late, his shanks often pop up into outer space! The other drawback to such a steep swing path is the tendency to hit a lot of fh that land short. Rafa was doing this a lot a couple of years ago. Donald Young also has a pretty steep swing path as well and when he shanked at the Newport Beach challengers, the ball went high into the air and landed in the adjacent courts.
 
#68
Your timing and eye hand coordination has got to be really good when your swing path is as steep as Rafa’s otherwise you’re going to be hitting some massive shanks. In fact when Rafa’s is late, his shanks often pop up into outer space! The other drawback to such a steep swing path is the tendency to hit a lot of fh that land short. Rafa was doing this a lot a couple of years ago. Donald Young also has a pretty steep swing path as well and when he shanked at the Newport Beach challengers, the ball went high into the air and landed in the adjacent courts.
Somehow I find it easier to time on low to high topspin shots than high to low slices like Fed's chop-like backhand slice. With that I struggle a lot.
 
#70
If you want to go down that route, then Fed's forehand shouldn't be imitated either.

The major differences b/w the two forehands as of 2019 are as follows:
  • Grip - Fed: EE, Nadal: SW (although based on recent photos I'm starting to think he's hitting with something close to an EE grip as well, explaining how he's hitting earlier far better and isn't hitting short as often as he used to)
  • Takeback - This is mostly a stylistic difference as opposed to a technical one
  • Follow-through - Fed bends his elbow more after contact as it wraps around his shoulder; Rafa's (WW FH) elbow bends significantly less after contact and his arm follows through more; Rafa does hit more reverse FHs more, but Fed hits loads of reverse FHs now
Not advocating that you should copy a particular pro just because they have a good shot, but there is certainly no harm in emulating certain things to see if they work for you personally. The elaborate Nadal takeback really helped with my timing when I was revamping my FH, and I've since dropped it once the major changes fell into place and my speed of play increased accordingly.

Pros, especially ATGs don't have inimitable techniques; they're ATGs because their techniques are as close to perfect as is possible, with a few style elements here and there, none of which normally get in the way of pure technique.

A stroke that is not an emulation of any pro results is a hack shot; the difficult part is separating fundamentals with personal flair. Copying the flair doesn't make the shot the same as the pro's, but it's not necessarily a bad thing.
"inimitable" ... taught me a new word ... college boy. 8-B(y)

Used in a sentence:

Whatever FH Curious ends up with ... it will be inimitable.
 
#71
Edit: Nvm, just saw @navigator 's post. Did you change your mind on this point recently?
Slighty.

When I started tennis since Fed is my idol and also love his gamestyle and gameplay it was also one of my goals to copy his strokes and play like him.

But after time specially in the past 6 months ive realized that copying someones strokes is not the path you should go on, because everyone is unique and hits a certain way because of their body composition and the way it feels most natural to them.

So I think copying fundamental things and important parts that are fundamentally sound is good and thats still my opinion, but the rest which is more of a stylistic part you should just do it how its most natural to you and how it feels best and you get the best results yourself, because everyone is unique.
 
#73
Your timing and eye hand coordination has got to be really good when your swing path is as steep as Rafa’s otherwise you’re going to be hitting some massive shanks. In fact when Rafa’s is late, his shanks often pop up into outer space! The other drawback to such a steep swing path is the tendency to hit a lot of fh that land short. Rafa was doing this a lot a couple of years ago. Donald Young also has a pretty steep swing path as well and when he shanked at the Newport Beach challengers, the ball went high into the air and landed in the adjacent courts.
Truth+ ... the steeper the swing path, and the faster the swing ... the less chance of repeatable clean hits.
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
#74
I respectfully disagree. I'm in belief Rafa stands back returning cause he prefers to hit a full FH on return, not a shortened-takeback one. And he has enough juice to deliver a strong, heavy ball even standing that far away, a ball few can take advantage of even with all the time they have.

Actually, Rafa hit numerous very fast-prepared run-arounds standing close to baseline, like almost noone else - it's more a footwork challenge, however, cause his takeback (current only I discuss) is one of the most compact on tour. Those shots usually win him points, as they are extremely unexpected, it never looks possible to make such a good shot from such a position.
Those are good points, but I would still argue that Rafa is on the "loopier" end of the spectrum as opposed to compact FH like Mischa Zverev who basically goes directly into the "pat the dog" position without any of the extraneous motions.

Did you see Nadal's match against Muller at Wimbledon 2017?

IMHO, had Rafa been able to stand in closer against Muller's return he might have had more success. Rafa is vulnerable to players who take advantage of his loopy takeback on fast courts...
 
#75
Anyway here is some more footage from yesterday for you to see more differences between my fh and Rafa's!


Your shot at 0:37 looks very much like Rafa's to me. I think because you stepped towards the incoming ball with your right foot and kept all you weight over it.
Rafa almost always starts his shots with his chest positioned directly over his right knee and foot. It seems this gives him more upward movement into the shot.
 
#77
It's so funny how you're literally coming close to trying to break your wrist to emulate a motion/position that's a result of one's anatomy and even if you copied it perfectly (which I'm sorry, but you don't), it could only have a negative effect on your stroke.

EDIT:
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the video and I think you're getting there (trying to emulate the swing), but just keep in mind that if you wanna emulate the forehand (not the look of it), there's a ton of other factors and skills needed that are far more important not only to copy it but also in your own game, so you might wanna focus on that. I remember watching one of your vids a while back and another recently, I remember thinking you've made some nice progress. Don't waste your time trying to emulate this forehand just for fun, especially when you still didn't figure out and settled in on your own mechanics.
 
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#78
No offense to the OP or anything but it's probably not a good idea to try and emulate a Rafa FH. Just stick to a "normal" one and work on strokes that actually need worked on.
 

jga111

Hall of Fame
#79
It's so funny how you're literally coming close to trying to break your wrist to emulate a motion/position that's a result of one's anatomy and even if you copied it perfectly (which I'm sorry, but you don't), it could only have a negative effect on your stroke.

EDIT:
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the video and I think you're getting there (trying to emulate the swing), but just keep in mind that if you wanna emulate the forehand (not the look of it), there's a ton of other factors and skills needed that are far more important not only to copy it but also in your own game, so you might wanna focus on that. I remember watching one of your vids a while back and another recently, I remember thinking you've made some nice progress. Don't waste your time trying to emulate this forehand just for fun, especially when you still didn't figure out and settled in on your own mechanics.
Well edited :)
 

Dragy

Professional
#80
Those are good points, but I would still argue that Rafa is on the "loopier" end of the spectrum as opposed to compact FH like Mischa Zverev who basically goes directly into the "pat the dog" position without any of the extraneous motions.

Did you see Nadal's match against Muller at Wimbledon 2017?

IMHO, had Rafa been able to stand in closer against Muller's return he might have had more success. Rafa is vulnerable to players who take advantage of his loopy takeback on fast courts...
Well I perfectly agree there're guys with straighter takebacks. Meanwhile Mischa would never get close to better Tour FHs quality with his techniques.

Facing players like Muller on Wimby grass courts is a bit of extreme... though legit tennis =)
 
#81
It's so funny how you're literally coming close to trying to break your wrist to emulate a motion/position that's a result of one's anatomy and even if you copied it perfectly (which I'm sorry, but you don't), it could only have a negative effect on your stroke.

EDIT:
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the video and I think you're getting there (trying to emulate the swing), but just keep in mind that if you wanna emulate the forehand (not the look of it), there's a ton of other factors and skills needed that are far more important not only to copy it but also in your own game, so you might wanna focus on that. I remember watching one of your vids a while back and another recently, I remember thinking you've made some nice progress. Don't waste your time trying to emulate this forehand just for fun, especially when you still didn't figure out and settled in on your own mechanics.
Great post, curious stubornly thinks we are trying to ridicule his ideas when we disagree with him and he even starts ignoring people for it, when we just want to help him, but oh well.
 

jga111

Hall of Fame
#82
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You might all disagree with me and this might be controversial opinion, but in my mind, rafa copied a lot of federer's technique and incorporated in his FH and game. I can reproduce rafa's flatter FH if I use modified federer's FH mechanics with a lot of grip action and uses a pure aero.
Surely if he wanted to imitated RF's forehand he would have done so and even used the right hand?
 
#83
It's so funny how you're literally coming close to trying to break your wrist to emulate a motion/position that's a result of one's anatomy and even if you copied it perfectly (which I'm sorry, but you don't), it could only have a negative effect on your stroke.

EDIT:
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the video and I think you're getting there (trying to emulate the swing), but just keep in mind that if you wanna emulate the forehand (not the look of it), there's a ton of other factors and skills needed that are far more important not only to copy it but also in your own game, so you might wanna focus on that. I remember watching one of your vids a while back and another recently, I remember thinking you've made some nice progress. Don't waste your time trying to emulate this forehand just for fun, especially when you still didn't figure out and settled in on your own mechanics.
It may look funny to you but that take back is not accidental, it’s an important part of Rafa’s forehand. It happens for a reason that I can’t bother to explain at the moment.
The other thing is I’m not trying to emulate his forehand for fun. Of course the plan is to use it in matches and I’ve already started doing so.
 
#85
There used to be a guy who posted over-edited videos on Youtube who was obviously a huge Federer fan and emulated all his strokes after Fed's. Of course they looked nothing like Fed's strokes beyond the most superficial similarities. The whole thing was very cringeworthy

That's the first thing that comes to my mind when I see someone attempting to "emulate" any given pro's strokes. Why would you even want to do that?
 
#86
This is interesting. Especially @FailBetter .
It looks like Rafa clearly changed his take back in the last few years.
In the video from 2013 the racket is pointing forward whereas in 2017 it points upward, he simply keeps the racket close to his torso and up before taking further back with the current version probably making the loop a little smaller.

 
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#87
There used to be a guy who posted over-edited videos on Youtube who was obviously a huge Federer fan and emulated all his strokes after Fed's. Of course they looked nothing like Fed's strokes beyond the most superficial similarities. The whole thing was very cringeworthy

That's the first thing that comes to my mind when I see someone attempting to "emulate" any given pro's strokes. Why would you even want to do that?
Life is full of variety isn't it, bro? You often wonder why people are like this or that. What can you do? It just happens...
 
#89
Life is full of variety isn't it, bro? You often wonder why people are like this or that. What can you do? It just happens...
Of course... You do you, there's nothing I can do to stop you

I don't have much more to add that hasn't been said already. But for anyone else stumbling upon this thread, I'd like to reiterate that copying someone else's strokes is a pointless and potentially harmful exercise.
 
#90
Of course... You do you, there's nothing I can do to stop you

I don't have much more to add that hasn't been said already. But for anyone else stumbling upon this thread, I'd like to reiterate that copying someone else's strokes is a pointless and potentially harmful exercise.
Didnt you read what he wrote before?
Hes just starting to emulate rafa forehand and hes already capable of hanging with ex atp hitting partners.

This is obviously working, hes transforming his forehand soon to the likes of nadal.

Give it a few more weeks and he will be competing at futures. 8-B
 
#91
To live vicariously through someone famous. It's quite healthy.
The effect of the swing and how the ball behaves is not in my imagination, though! A little example for you. I hit a pretty Nadalish forehand last night which was quite deep. The opponent let the ball land and fly and shouted at the same time ' What the hell, I thought it was going 1 feet out and it landed well inside the line! I'm not talking about a misjudged moonball by the way, I'm talking about a fast flat looking ball dipping down at the last moment.
 
#92
I'd like to reiterate that copying someone else's strokes is a pointless and potentially harmful exercise.
It really depends on the goal of your rec tennis. Rec tennis can be very different from person to person. Some enjoy matches, some enjoy serving buckets or posting videos or posting on TT about grips or strings. The only connection between all these differences is enjoyment.

The op is doing exactly rec tennis, but so are you. :) Carry on.
 
#93
The effect of the swing and how the ball behaves is not in my imagination, though! A little example for you. I hit a pretty Nadalish forehand last night which was quite deep. The opponent let the ball land and fly and shouted at the same time ' What the hell, I thought it was going 1 feet out and it landed well inside the line! I'm not talking about a misjudged moonball by the way, I'm talking about a fast flat looking ball dipping down at the last moment.
Man, you shall be my idol for the next 1 minute while I am imagining the awesomeness of such shot.

You know, Nadal is my lifetime idol .

We lefties should all rally under Nadal and emulate him as much as possible.
 
#94
It may look funny to you but that take back is not accidental, it’s an important part of Rafa’s forehand. It happens for a reason that I can’t bother to explain at the moment.
The other thing is I’m not trying to emulate his forehand for fun. Of course the plan is to use it in matches and I’ve already started doing so.
I really didn’t wanna say it directly, but maybe beating around the bush it’s not always the way to go.
You’re still learning how to time your ****s correctly and basically how to hit the ball. It’s great hitting with a machine on one setting and dialing in after a few shots. Analyze your hitting with a partner, you’re making some nice progress, but you still lack basics. You’re trying to implement some ideas (falsely assuming their origins and purposes by the way) and falling into a typical trap of this forum.

A teenager learning to drive thinks he needs a racing suspension, racing seats and is more than convinced that cool stickers makes his car 10% faster. In reality though, what he needs to learn is how to drive without hitting a wall, “advanced” features would make it even harder for him and his stickers just make him look like an idiot.
 
#95
I really didn’t wanna say it directly, but maybe beating around the bush it’s not always the way to go.
You’re still learning how to time your ****s correctly and basically how to hit the ball. It’s great hitting with a machine on one setting and dialing in after a few shots. Analyze your hitting with a partner, you’re making some nice progress, but you still lack basics. You’re trying to implement some ideas (falsely assuming their origins and purposes by the way) and falling into a typical trap of this forum.

A teenager learning to drive thinks he needs a racing suspension, racing seats and is more than convinced that cool stickers makes his car 10% faster. In reality though, what he needs to learn is how to drive without hitting a wall, “advanced” features would make it even harder for him and his stickers just make him look like an idiot.
Opinions and facts may contradict. This applies both to me and you. Giving opinion as if it is a fact is usually a narrow minded approach.
 
#96
This is interesting. Especially @FailBetter .
It looks like Rafa clearly changed his take back in the last few years.
In the video from 2013 the racket is pointing forward whereas in 2017 it points upward, he simply keeps the racket close to his torso and up before taking further back with the current version probably making the loop a little smaller.

Is the loop the path of the racquet head or the hand?
 
#97
Opinions and facts may contradict. This applies both to me and you. Giving opinion as if it is a fact is usually a narrow minded approach.
Well, talk about narrow minded.

Anyways, if you look at your fairly recent video and see a slow ball coming directly to you and then yourself making some awkward half aerial pivot and hitting the ball to the side fence and you say that the statement that you have some things to focus on regarding your timing and strokes is an opinion not a fact then well..
It’s just that I was under the impression I‘ve been playing way longer than you and were once doing more or less the same what you’re trying to do now and felt the need to warn you. And so I did, my job here is done, good luck, let’s chat in a few years. Until then I wish you all the best, you’re making some really nice progress
 
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#98
Well, talk about narrow minded.

Anyways, if you look at your fairly recent video and see a slow ball coming directly to you and then yourself making some awkward half aerial pivot and hitting the ball to the side fence and you say that the statement that you have some things to focus on regarding your timing and strokes is an opinion not a fact then well..
It’s just that I was under the impression I play way longer than you and were once doing more or less the same what you’re trying to do now and felt the need to warn you. And so I did, my job here is done, good luck, let’s chat in a few years. Until then I wish you all the best, you’re making some really nice progress
No worries. Me trying to emulate Rafa's forehand does not prevent me from focusing on the basics at the same time. I might be a little more than what you imagine. I do fitness training 3-4 days a week mostly leg strength and agility, play 3 times a week, also play points with a good coach to get instant feedback from him.
 
No worries. Me trying to emulate Rafa's forehand does not prevent me from focusing on the basics at the same time. I might be a little more than what you imagine. I do fitness training 3-4 days a week mostly leg strength and agility, play 3 times a week, also play points with a good coach to get instant feedback from him.
Great, that’s the way to go. I hope you’ll keep uploading update videos
 
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