End of Year Roundup - What is your opinion of Sinner?

At the end of the ATP 2024 Season - My Opinion of Sinner is:

  • Most Favorable - Great Guy, Always loved him, Deserves Everything He Gets

  • Slightly improved - was on fence, but this year raised his stock for me

  • Neutral - don't care either way

  • Less Favorable Than Prior

  • Least Favorable - Should be banned

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Sinner may have somehow, someway become the most polarizing player on the ATP tour - while simultaneously becoming the most dominant.
What is your opinion of him today, at this moment - after basically sweeping the end-of-year tournaments and solidifying his World #1 Ranking?

Informally in discussion with my tennis mates, it has run the full gamut:
Sublime class. Best groundstrokes. Service like Sampras.
The carrot shtick is running thin.
A drug cheat! No character. Stealing the Glory from Carlos. Lucky that Djokovic had an injury prone season.

So please chime in.
 
What's amazing is he's put the tour in a choke hold.
Dominance like this does usually split people - some love it and get behind it (it is magical to watch), but it can definitely turn others - in his case, I think that polarization has been intensified by a number of factors - doping allegations, and also that it is coming at the expense of seeing a fan favorite and showman in Alcaraz on that pedestal.
I have to say, I find myself in awe of his hitting and serving (he served Fritz off the court in the ATP final), but was slightly let down when he swept through so easily and also then helped Italy win.
 
I was indifferent on Alcaraz for a time too, and he has started to win me over. So hope is not lost for the Italian. Charisma is somewhat subjective, and not a requirement for me to root for you. It certainly helps in an individual sport, though.
 
Federer and Del Potro said:
I was indifferent on Alcaraz for a time too, and he has started to win me over. So hope is not lost for the Italian. Charisma is somewhat subjective, and not a requirement for me to root for you. It certainly helps in an individual sport, though.
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I was beginning to like Sinner for his understated manner.

But then the doping thing happened and I was reminded of why I'm naturally suspicious of understated, guarded people.
 
Amazing ability to handle the whole doping affair and continue to win regardless. I think he's demonstrated the champions mentality under a very "challenging" circumstances, which is a tougher task IMO from "simply" being a front-runner and having other players chasing you.

His qualities as a player are obvious by a simple fact that he's become a #1.

I like his demeanor on court, quiet guy without ambitions to make drama or talk loud (similar to Davydenko in that department), which I really appreciate.

The doping affair was a disappointment for sure, but it is what it is...
 
Rosstour said:
I was beginning to like Sinner for his understated manner.

But then the doping thing happened and I was reminded of why I'm naturally suspicious of understated, guarded people.
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Also RE: Charisma - If he keeps winning, he will gain more by default. I would like to see his peers challenge and elevate him better. Without proper rivalries, charisma doesn't mean much anyways.

As far as improvements I would like to see: better grass results.

As far as doping I will let the chips fall where they may on that one. Innocent or guilty, it will be inextricably linked to him for his entire career now.
 
Federer and Del Potro said:
Also RE: Charisma - If he keeps winning, he will gain more by default. I would like to see his peers challenge and elevate him better. Without proper rivalries, charisma doesn't mean much anyways.

As far as improvements I would like to see: better grass results.

As far as doping I will let the chips fall where they may on that one. Innocent or guilty, it will be inextricably linked to him for his entire career now.
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Alcaraz went 3-0 against him this year. Not a peer?
 
Undoubtedly a great player. Unrelenting power. A bit of a cardboard cutout where personality goes, but so was a guy like Sampras. This drug scandal bit is hard to ignore though. If he was a lesser light, he almost assuredly would have had the book thrown at him which is unsavory.
 
Can become goat backhand player .

The way his backhand is hit, it's truly insane. Pre injury Delpo may love to have some say
But at 75 mph and 2200 rpms , it's like forehand so sinner comes to the court with 2 forehands

Warrior with 2 Katanas.
 
For me is 10/10
Results: the results speak for themselves...
"Show" value: when the plan works it stick to it, when not... often he stick to it anyway :-D. Anyway is more than capable to give magical moments: the passing shot vs draper, after the fall, imho is the best shot of 2024.
Character: polite and respectfull with everyone... great sportsmanship (the "cheater" Sinner is more than capable to give away points wrongfully awarded by umpires, even if it means losing a game, he did it several times). During interviews is not the more interesting character of the bunch... but it's not easy to say something interesting for a 22-23 years old guy that talk in a foreign language, i think he will get better with time.
 
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Aabye5 said:
All-court game?
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Sinner is capable of all court game. His RG match vs Alcaraz, he S&V 7 times vs Alcaraz.
That's around 5%.

Djokovic in 2023 S&V 4% vs Alcaraz in RG.
Federer in 2006 S&V 9% vs Nadal in RG.

Sinner can actually get far better with S&V due to his height. The height is not spoken off enough. He is 1 inch taller than Boris Becker. Very strong serve and he can utilize it to hit wide serves and cover the net. I think he will get much better at that but only when he becomes old like Nole post 32.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Sinner is capable of all court game. His RG match vs Alcaraz, he S&V 7 times vs Alcaraz.
That's around 5%.

Djokovic in 2023 S&V 4% vs Alcaraz in RG.
Federer in 2006 S&V 9% vs Nadal in RG.

Sinner can actually get far better with S&V due to his height. The height is not spoken off enough. He is 1 inch taller than Boris Becker. Very strong serve and he can utilize it to hit wide serves and cover the net. I think he will get much better at that but only when he becomes old like Nole post 32.
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How did he do on those S&V?
 
Personally I think the steroid scandal has given people a reason to turn on him... but that there has been something innately building against him amongst tennis fans.
I am just trying to get a feeling for exactly what that is... and I am searching.
 
dudu said:
Personally I think the steroid scandal has given people a reason to turn on him... but that there has been something innately building against him amongst tennis fans.
I am just trying to get a feeling for exactly what that is... and I am searching.
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Nah... before the doping controversy, most people were indifferent to him. Even his fans.
 
dudu said:
Personally I think the steroid scandal has given people a reason to turn on him... but that there has been something innately building against him amongst tennis fans.
I am just trying to get a feeling for exactly what that is... and I am searching
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maybe Anti-Ginger prejudice... just kidding... i don't know... the web is full of sociopaths: haters (people in dire need of hating someone), trolls (people that say annoying things only to annoy everyone and get a reaction), toxic personalities and misanthropes of every kind... so it is difficult to assert what the "average joe" think about a topic only by considering internet opinions.
 
Not a big fan, but I liked him before, and I still like him now, but a bit less due to the doping scandal, and I don’t believe his explanation.
 
Sinner is amazing. The only thing you could fault him for is his bland impression, but he washed that away brilliantly with the doping saga.
 
Obviously great player. Love the rivallery brewing between him and Alcz. Enjoyed to see the growth in his game. (in alcz too btw).
In terms of personality, I think he's way more tempestuous than he shows on court and that is a great skill to have if you can keep it out of view. Every now and then you can see a tiny bit of it peaking through. But he can channel it greatly towards his goals. He's already scary good and will only get better - tennis is up for the next level.
 
GOAT material. With his work ethics, he's only going to get better for the next couple of years. Only CAS can take the #1 spot away from him, otherwise it'll be years of domination.
 
Here's the thing with him: I thought he was a great player before the doping scandal but boring personality.

The doping scandal made me furious initially and I thought to myself that I would never root for the guy ever again.

However I did like how he conducted himself facing a flock of questions about the scandal and thought this was the best interview he ever did.

And since now we imagine he's absolutely clean as he's under the watchful radar, he has been unstoppable and winning almost everything (lost to Alcaraz in Beijing is his only loss).

So I've had a different opinion about him overtime because 1) how dominant he became 2) I truly believe his old staff screwed him over and he personally had no idea of the situation.

However, if he gets caught again, that's the end of the road for me to root for him,
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Sinner is capable of all court game. His RG match vs Alcaraz, he S&V 7 times vs Alcaraz.
That's around 5%.

Djokovic in 2023 S&V 4% vs Alcaraz in RG.
Federer in 2006 S&V 9% vs Nadal in RG.

Sinner can actually get far better with S&V due to his height. The height is not spoken off enough. He is 1 inch taller than Boris Becker. Very strong serve and he can utilize it to hit wide serves and cover the net. I think he will get much better at that but only when he becomes old like Nole post 32.
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Sinner is 63 not 64 he is shorter than tsitsipas struff monfils
 
I personally like Sinner, on and off the court, and he is only getting better. He has steadily improved since the end of 2023, and if he takes even another half-step forward (which I think he can, with his mental toughness and consistency), he can become even more dominant.

Federer and Del Potro said:
I was indifferent on Alcaraz for a time too, and he has started to win me over. So hope is not lost for the Italian. Charisma is somewhat subjective, and not a requirement for me to root for you. It certainly helps in an individual sport, though.
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Musterrific said:
Aggressive all-court game mixed with a dull, uncharismatic personality. We haven't seen that at the top of the game since Sampras.
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Charisma is subjective, as stated in the comment above yours, and I personally find him pretty compelling. I think it helps A LOT if you seek out some of his interviews and appearances in the Italian media. He has made a lot of appearances since winning the Davis Cup, and each of them makes me like him more and more.

Even if you don't speak Italian, you can notice how relaxed and natural he is, and how that allows his personality and sense of humor to come out. He seems to enjoy a good laugh, especially with Berrettini, and you realize he is a nice kid.
 
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