Lol not saying I am going to do it, you have to take into account having a stable income as well as your partner having a stable income as well. Then you gotta take into account housing, food, her dad wanting to murder you...the list goes onAnd the sharks just can’t help themselves when they smell blood in the water…:neutral:
I was actually referring to your cozy little consortium with T1000 and that whole funky Melzer sect – you know more about it than I do though. But yeah, I’m with you – partner’s income/assets better be stable and rather substantial if the partner’s father plans to murder you. It’s all about finding the balance, isn’t it…Lol not saying I am going to do it, you have to take into account having a stable income as well as your partner having a stable income as well. Then you gotta take into account housing, food, her dad wanting to murder you...the list goes on
And another study shows that couples living together are more likely to divorce when they do get married, possibly from the pressures of family to get married since they are already living together.I study was shown that people that live together prior to marriage have a greater success than those that marry without liiving together, whether this has to do with acknowledging and accepting each others idiosyncrasies, i am not sure....
If you are already living together prior to getting married, I dont see how this will co-erce/force couples to hasten a marriage in order to satisfy pressures from parents in the majority of cases.And another study shows that couples living together are more likely to divorce when they do get married, possibly from the pressures of family to get married since they are already living together.
If I got a diamond ring everytime I got engaged / married, I'd do it once a week........sort of a cool weekend gig.but still that's being together for 5 years, and 2 years later married. so together for 7 years. so i mean that's not like this: i get on facebook on Christmas, a girl who is 19 posted pics of an engagement ring, her status said nothing is better than getting engaged on Christmas...her and her boyfriend have been dating for about 2 months....WTF
Interesting comments here. I think there are some, perhaps 20-30% of the age group able to do it. But the consumer culture keeps young adults as juvenile as possible. . .nothing wrong with getting married at an age where you are mature enough to deal with what it brings, or flexible enough to allow yourself to grow into the marriage. The problem is nowadays our emotional ages are much lower than equivalent people from the olden days, we mature much later and most 18-20 year olds are nowhere near ready to make a good go of marriage, whereas back in the day it was a different matter a 20 year old probably had already supported his family for a while and was working and earning and used to life in general.
Today they are still playing games on xbox, watching mtv and getting drunk, and that probably continues all through the 20's at least.
So nothing wrong with early marriage, but we just aint mature enough as a whole to deal with it anymore, we suck
I think you are on the right track.. . . and I wonder, too, if there's a "moral culture" which encourages people to be as young and footloose and free as possible, which clashes with the obligatory ties of marriage.
I have yet to find a racquet that is both content and mature. It always complains and is never happy- stoopid racquet.Picking a spouse is a lot like picking a racquet. If you believe you made a good choice, you did! Age doesn't matter. If you think the grass will be greener elsewhere, you'll be looking for that perfect set-up for ever! You'll continue to look and look and look...........and look and look.......
Statistically, the numbers look bad for marriage in our country/culture. However, look at countries where marriages are arranged. They do much better. Having met people and talked to them about it, they just look at me and say, "That's the way it is. I love my spouse."
The point is if you are BOTH content and mature, it'll work. It's just like picking a racquet!
Forgot to add:
I am married and have been for nearly 12 years. My wife and I share many important values. We don't share a religion but we do share common financial goals, parental goals for our kids, and support for each other. We have our problems and we look and work through them. We don't agree all of the time. Life is not a Disney movie and the next marketing ploy really won't make your life better either.
Pick a racquet and make your game fit its properties.
Perhaps it's not societal pressure. Perhaps it's more personal.. . . and I wonder, too, if there's a "moral culture" which encourages people to be as young and footloose and free as possible, which clashes with the obligatory ties of marriage.
I've got 5 nieces and nephews. I get enough joy from them to satisfy me.Yes, but there are things that you really ARE missing. Having children is a great boon, really widens and broadens your heart. It's hard to believe this until you become a parent, however; but they are among life's great and profound joys. Perhaps when you were a child you didn't see or were unable to appreciate that your parents had some very substantial joys in doing as they were doing.
Some of that might be from the parents themselves rather than outside pressure. In college, I met loads of people whose parents hadn't taught them anything. They had no clue how to take care of themselves, no self discipline, nothing. They were practically helpless. They had never cooked a meal, cleaned their own room, washed their own clothes. (I remember teaching one guy how to use a cash machine.) I was surprized they even learned to drive, given how little else they knew how to do.There's grumbling any way you go. I did as you did, and wish I hadn't taken that path now. Just be attentive to consumerist efforts to keep people infantilized.
Biologically speaking, the top priority is survival. The second priority is reproduction, which is meant to ensure the survival of the species as a whole.of course biologically all we are meant to do is reproduce, so opting out of that is kind of, denying the reason we evolved in the first place, not sure what I am trying to say, but its intuitive to say the least. Emotionally as the above poster said, I dont think you can truly mature and develop as a person without bringing up children and the joy and challenges that brings.