ESPN are you stupid?

eelhc

Hall of Fame
So I get up at a reasonable hour this morning to watch the AO final. As much as I enjoy watching tennis,3AM ain't gonna happen. I make sure I maintain isolation and avoid checking my phone or any other devices which may have the score posted/alerted/notified.

Ate my breakfast, got my coffee, got comfortable and navigated directly to the Watch ESPN app on my fire TV. What do I see on the front page? Federer wins 20th slam.

WTF ESPN? I can see putting up match hilites a 1/2 day or a reasonable time after but less than 6Hrs after the event started?
 

tenisdecente

Hall of Fame
So I get up at a reasonable hour this morning to watch the AO final. As much as I enjoy watching tennis,3AM ain't gonna happen. I make sure I maintain isolation and avoid checking my phone or any other devices which may have the score posted/alerted/notified.

Ate my breakfast, got my coffee, got comfortable and navigated directly to the Watch ESPN app on my fire TV. What do I see on the front page? Federer wins 20th slam.

WTF ESPN? I can see putting up match hilites a 1/2 day or a reasonable time after but less than 6Hrs after the event started?
LMAO, I feel your pain bro. They NEVER should place results in an app which streams a past match. At least in the Latam ESPN Play app this does not happen
 

moonballs

Hall of Fame
Well, as someone who watched sets 3, 4 and 5 live, I can tell you that roller coaster ride was not for the faint of heart! If you are a fed fan just be glad he won at the end; if you are a cilic fan, I'd not recommend watching how he blew it. In any case, DVR is much better than watchespn. Even if you don't have the spoilers the length of time will give away the ending sometimes--for example at the end of third set, you would notice the remaining time is longer than one set would need, and you would know somehow Fed would give up the fourth.
 

netlets

Semi-Pro
I got up to watch, but that has happened to me before with a match I didn't care about as much. My biggest beef with ESPN is the camera crew. It's often very difficult to pick up where the serve is going when they zoom in on the server and then show the whole court too late. That happens way too often in these matches. The close up of the server is overrated. If you are going to do it, make sure you pan out early enough so we can see the path of the ball.
 

tenisdecente

Hall of Fame
Well, as someone who watched sets 3, 4 and 5 live, I can tell you that roller coaster ride was not for the faint of heart! If you are a fed fan just be glad he won at the end; if you are a cilic fan, I'd not recommend watching how he blew it. In any case, DVR is much better than watchespn. Even if you don't have the spoilers the length of time will give away the ending sometimes--for example at the end of third set, you would notice the remaining time is longer than one set would need, and you would know somehow Fed would give up the fourth.
Yeah, that is a good call about watch a restream. I do record in the DVR and then watch
 

tennisenthusiast

Hall of Fame
So I get up at a reasonable hour this morning to watch the AO final. As much as I enjoy watching tennis,3AM ain't gonna happen. I make sure I maintain isolation and avoid checking my phone or any other devices which may have the score posted/alerted/notified.

Ate my breakfast, got my coffee, got comfortable and navigated directly to the Watch ESPN app on my fire TV. What do I see on the front page? Federer wins 20th slam.

WTF ESPN? I can see putting up match hilites a 1/2 day or a reasonable time after but less than 6Hrs after the event started?
Next time ask someone to open the replay. You close your eyes!
 

JMR

Hall of Fame
ESPN is a network that provides live sports programming and sports NEWS. The replay stuff is just offered as a convenience. They're not going to hide the news for the sake of replay viewers.
 

eelhc

Hall of Fame
ESPN is a network that provides live sports programming and sports NEWS. The replay stuff is just offered as a convenience. They're not going to hide the news for the sake of replay viewers.
ESPN has 2 apps. ESPN and Watch ESPN.

ESPN app has scores, news, hilites, etc...

Watch ESPN has hilites, full length matches, games, etc. To post any results in the app used by their viewers to catch up front is well... stupid... not just for their viewers, it's stupid for them as they sell ads on the replays. Why would they post results of an event up front when they make money off the ads on those replays?

Also... what about the early rounds? I may chose to watch 1 of 2 matches going on at the same time and the other at a later time.

They can still provide the results in the app, just don't put it up on the up front, start menu.
 

JMR

Hall of Fame
ESPN has 2 apps. ESPN and Watch ESPN.
Watch ESPN is just a streaming app. Its primary purpose is the same as that of ESPN in general: to provide access to live coverage of sporting events, and to provide sports news. Events already telecast are kept available for a short time as a convenience, then they drop off. Watch ESPN is not a Netflix for past sporting events.

Televised sports has always been a largely "delay at your own risk" form of entertainment. In other words, once a result has occurred, it's out there for all to see/hear about, and no one feels any obligation to shield late viewers from spoilers. If you want to insulate yourself from the news, your best bet is to lock yourself in the bedroom and use your own DVR to record the event. I never expect any online service to protect me from the facts. That's just quixotic when it comes to sports.
 

eelhc

Hall of Fame
Watch ESPN is just a streaming app. Its primary purpose is the same as that of ESPN in general: to provide access to live coverage of sporting events, and to provide sports news. Events already telecast are kept available for a short time as a convenience, then they drop off. Watch ESPN is not a Netflix for past sporting events.

Televised sports has always been a largely "delay at your own risk" form of entertainment. In other words, once a result has occurred, it's out there for all to see/hear about, and no one feels any obligation to shield late viewers from spoilers. If you want to insulate yourself from the news, your best bet is to lock yourself in the bedroom and use your own DVR to record the event. I never expect any online service to protect me from the facts. That's just quixotic when it comes to sports.
Yes I realize it's at my own risk and I still chose not to get up at 3AM or set the DVR... My bad. That all said, ESPN is still stupid for putting the results up front.

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Boogslice

Rookie
That's funny, I KNEW the WatchESPN app would put a headline or clip near the top announcing the winner, so I shielded my eyes and quickly scrolled to the bottom where the "past events" are listed. I was mostly able to avoid any spoilers except I sort of thought I caught a thumbnail our of the corner of my eye showing Fed lifting the trophy (all I caught was a white shirt and the trophy, so I still thought it might've been Cilic). Phewww.
 

Johnr

Rookie
Tennis channel has done similar stupid things in early rounds. With time difference they have to expect people are not watching live and not spoil their own broadcasts with updates of matches people are watching at that moment!!
 

tennis24x7

Semi-Pro
Stupid - Definitely. Why do they have girls and boys matches for re-play too on watchespn? people don't even want to watch challengers who watches boys and girls full replays?
 

eelhc

Hall of Fame
No they're not stupid for doing so. The entitlement people think they deserve is outrageous.
It has nothing to do with entitlement.

As a consumer I have the right to judge a product crappy and not use it.

So... I won't be using watch ESPN for time shifting now. Who does that hurt? No skin off my nose but ESPN can sell additional ads on the replays.



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eelhc

Hall of Fame
Stupid - Definitely. Why do they have girls and boys matches for re-play too on watchespn? people don't even want to watch challengers who watches boys and girls full replays?
Their family, friends, school, local communities who can't travel to Australia I am sure appreciates it.

There are cameras on all courts, many of them unmanned and there are no commentators.

So it's not costing ESPN a ton of money to do so...

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