espnW Impact 10 List: #1 Serena Williams

AngieB

Banned
(I presume this was for the year 2013) Congrats Serena!

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By Jane McManus | Oct 15, 2014
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1. Serena Williams
2. Brittney Griner
3. Missy Franklin
4. Diana Nyad
5. Abby Wambach
6. Elena Delle Donne
7. Maya Moore
8. Inbee Park
9. Candace Parker
10. Alex Morgan


Mary Joe Fernandez discusses the impact tennis star Serena Williams had in 2013.

When we watch Serena Williams play, we are watching history in the making.

This past year, the 32-year-old tennis player won more money ($12.4 million), titles (11) and matches (78) than she has in any other year of her career. She added the French Open and U.S. Open to a trophy case that now has 17 majors, just one title behind Martina Navratilova and Chris Evert, who are tied for fourth place on the all-time list.

But unlike everyone above her, Williams is still accruing those titles and showing no signs of letting up.

"Right now, I can't imagine my life without a tennis racket in my hand," she told reporters after winning the WTA Championships in Istanbul in October.

When she won her first Grand Slam title in 1999 at the U.S. Open, tennis was a game ruled by baseliners. As Williams matured, she ushered in the era of female power hitters, of which she was the CEO. She has changed the game, forcing her opponents to become stronger and improve their service returns.

Right now, there are only a few players on the WTA Tour who can beat her with any kind of consistency.

In some ways, Williams' path into tennis was paved by big sister Venus. They were natural allies in an unfamiliar world, where their beaded hair was critiqued as their father, Richard, smoked his long, brown cigarettes outside the player entrance to tournaments.

In sports, veteran stars will sometimes play against a rookie who grew up idolizing them. With Serena, this is happening while she is still at the top of her game. She had a 34-match winning streak this year, while her record under coach Patrick Mouratoglou is 124-6.

Williams has been just that dominant.

She is the oldest world No. 1 in WTA history. Her $12.4 million in prize money more than eclipsed the former record of $7.2 million set by Victoria Azarenka. Serena has won $54 million in prize money over her career and has earned millions more in endorsements. To hear her say it, though, she loves playing now more than she ever has.

Will age catch up with her? Possibly. But Williams played less at a time when some of her peers were burning themselves out on the grind of the international tour.

Will her peers catch up with her? Maybe. But only Azarenka has the game and confidence to beat Williams with regularity, and she is still a distant No. 2.

How about injury? Williams hasn't missed significant time since a foot injury in 2010, an absence that seemed to only fuel her competitiveness. Now, she is playing for the record books.

Williams doesn't always act the role model. Her comments about the Steubenville **** case were insensitive, and she is known to clash with other players on the tour (including Maria Sharapova and Sloane Stephens just this year). She doesn't appear to relish these moments, but doesn't seem to shy from them either.

She twice apologized for her Steubenville remarks, but Williams doesn't apologize for who she is. She can be brash or funny, often at the same time. She guards her time carefully and keeps her circle close.

She has never hidden who she is, flaws included. Maybe Williams isn't as tempered as some U.S. Open linesmen would like, but she is authentic. The emotion and fist-clenching joy she expresses at each additional title is all real and right there on the surface.

And it is a reminder that, overall, Williams is a winner.
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AngieB
 

Kalin

Legend
Angie,

There's no doubt Serena is awesome. But having her head a dubious list of, let's be frank, fringe impact sportsgals, doesn't mean zilch.

The girls on the list may be somewhat known inside the USA (not so sure about the 'impact' thing) and for some even this is doubtful. Worldwide, with the possible exception of Inbee Park, Missy Franklin and maybe (a very big maybe, mind you) Abby Wambach the rest are virtually unknown with zero impact on anything.

If anything, having Serena on top of this list is pretty insulting to her. This can be re-titled as the 'Which one is not like the others' list.
 

NaBUru38

Rookie
I've only heard of Imbee Park on that list, although admittedly I'm English (if that makes a difference).

That's because tennis and golf are the only international women's sports.

How many football, basketball, volleyball, field hockey, handball, swimming, gymnastics, athletics women are known worldwide?
 

AngieB

Banned
Angie,

There's no doubt Serena is awesome. But having her head a dubious list of, let's be frank, fringe impact sportsgals, doesn't mean zilch.

The girls on the list may be somewhat known inside the USA (not so sure about the 'impact' thing) and for some even this is doubtful. Worldwide, with the possible exception of Inbee Park, Missy Franklin and maybe (a very big maybe, mind you) Abby Wambach the rest are virtually unknown with zero impact on anything.

If anything, having Serena on top of this list is pretty insulting to her. This can be re-titled as the 'Which one is not like the others' list.

Sometimes people make judgments without the full benefit of knowledge. Such type of ignorance cannot be construed as abject malfeasance, rather, one's inability to be intellectually curious.

I'm highly doubtful ESPN would place Serena atop any "dubious" list of "fringe" athletes. In fact, all the women listed are great contributors to women's athletics. Just because YOU are ignorant to these women's impact or athletic contributions doesn't make theirs less appealing. Educate yourself.

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AngieB
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
I take the ESPN award more seriously than the historically incomplete Open Era lists you produce in this forum.

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AngieB

ESPN is biased toward American athletes. What it really mean is the athletes have impact on the US soil, not the entire world.


My list consist of all players from different countries(not just American) that have achieved in many major categories since the open-era.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Seems odd to have three basketball players, two swimmers, and one footballer. Where is Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce?
 

JJGUY

Hall of Fame
so true, if Maria is not on the list regarding women's tennis, then it cannot be taken seriously!

ESPN is biased toward American athletes. What it really mean is the athletes have impact on the US soil, not the entire world.


My list consist of all players from different countries(not just American) that have achieved in many major categories since the open-era.
 

AngieB

Banned
ESPN is biased toward American athletes. What it really mean is the athletes have impact on the US soil, not the entire world.


My list consist of all players from different countries(not just American) that have achieved in many major categories since the open-era.

Your list omits 80+ years of tennis history of players from all continents and is not historically accurate. ESPN is on the right side of history where it relates to Serena. Always has been.

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AngieB
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
so true, if Maria is not on the list regarding women's tennis, then it cannot be taken seriously!

Sharapova is more popular athlete worldwide, but Serena is more popular in America so ESPN picked her.

Your list omits 80+ years of tennis history of players from all continents and is not historically accurate. ESPN is on the right side of history where it relates to Serena. Always has been.

My list are from the open era when tennis are played at the highest level because slam tournaments agreed to allow professional players to compete with amateurs. You can't mix apples with oranges. Plus, expert picked most of all time great players are from the open era since when the establishment of the WTA in 1973 marks the point when tennis compete at a highest level.

ESPN is biased, just like Sport Illustrated. I respetct Laureus World Sports Awards because they honor all individual athletes around the globe equally.
 

Midaso240

Legend
Serena would make the biggest impact of these players on a swimming pool if she jumped off a diving board,that's for sure
 

Kalin

Legend
..Just because YOU are ignorant to these women's impact or athletic contributions doesn't make theirs less appealing. Educate yourself.
AngieB

I did educate myself about these girls. I needed to, since they're mostly unknown. The result of my education, as with every education, was knowledge. The knowledge that these women (with the couple of exceptions I mentioned) have, compared to Serena, very few athletic contributions and very little impact. After all, your post was about Serena, right?

Want to look for impactful women athletes? Look at tennis, gymnastics, track, swimming, figure skating, golf... not bloody women's basketball.
 

JJGUY

Hall of Fame
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Serena would make the biggest impact of these players on a swimming pool if she jumped off a diving board,that's for sure
 

AngieB

Banned
Your list omits 80+ years of tennis history of players from all continents and is not historically accurate. ESPN is on the right side of history where it relates to Serena. Always has been.

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AngieB

My list are from the open era when tennis are played at the highest level because slam tournaments agreed to allow professional players to compete with amateurs. You can't mix apples with oranges. Plus, expert picked most of all time great players are from the open era since when the establishment of the WTA in 1973 marks the point when tennis compete at a highest level.

ESPN is biased, just like Sport Illustrated. I respetct Laureus World Sports Awards because they honor all individual athletes around the globe equally.
Helen Wills Moody stands as the winningest American in grand slam singles history (19). Her peers in the 1920's and 1930's were the best women's tennis players in the world. Similarly, Margaret Court, winner of (24) grand slam singles titles played against the best women's tennis players in the world.

Omitting these two women because their tennis achievement came before the Open Era is historically inaccurate and is not supported by the Internation Tennis Hall of Fame or International Tennis Federation who recognize Grand slam tennis achievement pre and post Open Era. Every ITF-sanctioned Grand Slam Event in tennis history is listed in ITHOF achievements.

Again, you cannot omit 80+ years of tennis history to fit your personal agenda. Tennis history will not allow it. Sports Illustrated and ESPN celebrates athletes from around the world, not just the United States.
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THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Helen Wills Moody stands as the winningest American in grand slam singles history (19). Her peers in the 1920's and 1930's were the best women's tennis players in the world. Similarly, Margaret Court, winner of (24) grand slam singles titles played against the best women's tennis players in the world.

Omitting these two women because their tennis achievement came before the Open Era is historically inaccurate and is not supported by the Internation Tennis Hall of Fame or International Tennis Federation who recognize Grand slam tennis achievement pre and post Open Era. Every ITF-sanctioned Grand Slam Event in tennis history is listed in ITHOF achievements.

Again, you cannot omit 80+ years of tennis history to fit your personal agenda. Tennis history will not allow it. Sports Illustrated and ESPN celebrates athletes from around the world, not just the United States.
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AngieB

AngieB, it is pointless to discuss anything with a person who believes the unsubstantiated claim of "nationalism," as it is his fallback for major publications not crowning his favorites (ex. Federer) or celebrating players he hates (Serena) with an energy generated by explosive hatred. Remember, this is the same person who tried to attack TIME, yet his fantasy was shredded with the publication's 80+ years of "Man (now Person) of the Year" selecting individuals from all over the world.

That member is bitter, and will say anything--no matter how drenched in lies, deception or the framing emotion of hate.
 
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TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Helen Wills Moody stands as the winningest American in grand slam singles history (19). Her peers in the 1920's and 1930's were the best women's tennis players in the world. Similarly, Margaret Court, winner of (24) grand slam singles titles played against the best women's tennis players in the world.

Omitting these two women because their tennis achievement came before the Open Era is historically inaccurate and is not supported by the Internation Tennis Hall of Fame or International Tennis Federation who recognize Grand slam tennis achievement pre and post Open Era. Every ITF-sanctioned Grand Slam Event in tennis history is listed in ITHOF achievements.

Again, you cannot omit 80+ years of tennis history to fit your personal agenda. Tennis history will not allow it. Sports Illustrated and ESPN celebrates athletes from around the world, not just the United States.

I've already explained it from another thread. Tennis was different in the pre-open era when they had two circuits(professional and amateur). The slams are not equate to the open era when Martina/Chris/Graf/Serena compete against a FULL field. Court 24 slams are well evaluated deeply by the experts and conclude that her slam count not equivalent to the modern slams, especially her weak 11 AO titles(you know it too but don't want to admit it). Achievements in the open era has more weight than the pre-open era due to greater depth/strength of the competition, added with even more depleted field when the pros/amateur compete separately.

SI is a joke. They had Dwyane Wade as front cover of the magazine in 2006 when the world knows that Federer light years ahead of him. There's only one explanation....American media biased.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Unsubstantiated nonsense, otherwise the screamers of "American media bias" would use publication / organization hard evidence from decades to prove it. Clearly, anyone screaming "American media bias" cannot prove anything--other than resentment that Federer is (rightfully) no marquee subject, while other non-American playes have been celebrated in the U.S. media.
 

AngieB

Banned
I've already explained it from another thread. Tennis was different in the pre-open era when they had two circuits(professional and amateur). The slams are not equate to the open era when Martina/Chris/Graf/Serena compete against a FULL field. Court 24 slams are well evaluated deeply by the experts and conclude that her slam count not equivalent to the modern slams, especially her weak 11 AO titles(you know it too but don't want to admit it). Achievements in the open era has more weight than the pre-open era due to greater depth/strength of the competition, added with even more depleted field when the pros/amateur compete separately.

You seem to be confusing men and women's tennis pre-Open Era.

The best women players represented all decades of women's tennis. Women pre-Open Era typically didn't choose to abandon grand slam tennis and turn professional until their grand slam careers had ended.

At the time Margaret won her 24 grand slam titles, the best women in the world were playing grand slam tennis. Some chose not to play in Australia when Margaret did. Not because they played professional tennis, but because they didn't want to play in Australia.

You really need to get a better grip of women's tennis history before making inaccurate statements. No expert has ever devalued or minimized Court's 24 grand slam singles titles, or her CYGS. It simply cannot be done historically. You will never be able to change history to fit your "Open-Era only" agenda.

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AngieB
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
You seem to be confusing men and women's tennis pre-Open Era.

The best women players represented all decades of women's tennis. Women pre-Open Era typically didn't choose to abandon grand slam tennis and turn professional until their grand slam careers had ended.

At the time Margaret won her 24 grand slam titles, the best women in the world were playing grand slam tennis. Some chose not to play in Australia when Margaret did. Not because they played professional tennis, but because they didn't want to play in Australia.

You really need to get a better grip of women's tennis history before making inaccurate statements. No expert has ever devalued or minimized Court's 24 grand slam singles titles, or her CYGS. It simply cannot be done historically. You will never be able to change history to fit your "Open-Era only" agenda.

This is where you're wrong. Tennis Channel have stated that Court 11 AO titles were from a weak era. They don't equate the same as the open era slam. AO in the 60s had small draw, as apposed to 128 player-draw today, and basically all players represented from Australia(1960 Australian Open). LOL



Steve Flink:
But I have long believed that she would have been hard pressed to win eleven Australian Championships/Opens if the fields there had not been weaker than they were at the other majors, particularly at Wimbledon and the U.S. Championships/ Open

That's the reason why experts place Graf as the grand slam record holder(22).
 

AngieB

Banned
This is where you're wrong. Tennis Channel have stated that Court 11 AO titles were from a weak era. They don't equate the same as the open era slam. AO in the 60s had small draw, as apposed to 128 player-draw today, and basically all players represented from Australia(1960 Australian Open). LOL



Steve Flink:


That's the reason why experts place Graf as the grand slam record holder(22).

In the same manner you diminish Court's 24, there is a long list of people who say that Monica Seles' stabbing made Graf's 22 possible. So if you want to go down LaLa Lane, then Helen Wills Moody 19 is best and Serena will likely pass next year.

Using your model, when Serena hits #19, she is the GOAT.

Even the weird little Belgian girl with the crooked hand couldn't come close to Serena in her own generation. None of the others could dominate like Serena.

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