First of all, I never claimed my kick serve goes 125. Also, I never volunteered how fast I served. To set the record straight, I was asked in my original thread so i answered. You also just proved my point. You can't analyze a tennis game by a youtube video. That guy who you think is a 3.5 player with the horrible reaction time is my dad, a National Champion....... He's the winner of the doubles national tennis championship for the 45's. I'll ask him for the names again, but the team they beat were former Wimbledon Champions. I'm sure your thinking, yeah right, but I can take a picture of the plaque and title if I wanted to but its really not worth the effort. Granted it was exactly 20 years ago, hes still a good tennis player for not having played much lately. Give him a break, hes 65 and he hates my kick serve. But hes accomplished quite a bit in his years of a tennis player. I had also been serving all slice hops so the kickers came as a suprise. His racquet was there, but he just happened to get lazy with his footwork and misjudged the side hop on the kick. The video doesn't even do the kick serve justice. Given the comments that you've written to me, I doubt you could even return it. Its totally obvious that the second flat serve I hit, made contact with the inside portion of his frame of the racquet causing a mishit to ricocet off to his left. And that was off of his forehand, who I rallied those forehands with. A 3.5 player cannot handle my forehand well enough to rally back consistently. He only moved about 1 step before he made contact with the ball because he didnt move quick enough to totally get to that serve. which is why it was mishit. Heres the link to what your referring to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5gLYogcZIE I mean my god, can't you hear the frame being struck? wow... drakulie. after that one you've lost total credibility in my eyes. So what makes you think you can analyze a service speed? _____________________________________________________________ boojay : I would say its over 100, but exactly how fast its going is really impossible for me to tell. There are so many frames lost in the video. I tried freezing your service motion to see its exact path but the quality of the video is just too low. Its a pretty decent looking serve though. Might want to push off a little more with your legs during contact. I wish I could see it clearer. Its being taped from a little too far away to really get a decent look at.