Even if sinner wins ATP finals

[nolefam_2024]

He will not end the year in the top 3.

At slams pts accumulated

Djokovic 7200, Alcaraz 3400, Medvedev 1900, Sinner 1100

Masters

Djokovic around 2500, Medvedev over 3000, Alcaraz above 3000 Sinner around 2500

So Djokovic has 10000 pts just from big tournaments. Raz has 6500 pts and Medvedev 5000+. While sinner has less than 4000 pts from big tournaments.

The hype is good because sinner finally is able to beat Djokovic and Medvedev. But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. Sinner hasn't reached a slam final yet still and is beaten before semis in 3 of the 4 slams. He has to prove it this week but also next year in Melbourne.

 

[legcramp]

Definitely needed a thread.

 

[3loudboys]

No ... but he will be a lot richer.

 

[ryushen21]

How predictable. A Djokovic fan making a thread to tear down a player who just beat Djokovic.

Remember how fragile Djokovic is and that he needs continuous adoration.

 

[nolefam_2024]

No ... but he will be a lot richer.

He probably will still be outside top 3 in terms of prize money this year. His success is more pronounced post USOpen with 1 Rogers cup run where he had free reign to the title.

 

[tennis3]

If the tour was 100% fast, hard indoor courts, Sinner would win multiple Slams. So would Zverev (with that serve alone).

But it isn't.

 

[nolefam_2024]

How predictable. A Djokovic fan making a thread to tear down a player who just beat Djokovic.

Remember how fragile Djokovic is and that he needs continuous adoration.

No need to tear down alcaraz. Sinner hype is very strong. Just 2 months back he was called the most overrated guy on ttw. There is huge difference.

 

[weakera]

ok

 

[BeatlesFan]

95% of this garbage needs to go in the Djokovic news thread where it belongs. Mods have needed to enforce this for years.

 

[dking68]

He probably will still be outside top 3 in terms of prize money this year. His success is more pronounced post USOpen with 1 Rogers cup run where he had free rein to the title.

He will pass Medvedev out after AO/IW/Miami

 

[nolefam_2024]

If the tour was 100% fast, hard indoor courts, Sinner would win multiple Slams. So would Zverev (with that serve alone).

But it isn't.

Possible. Let's see in 2024 ao at the very least. Let's not be too hasty.

 

[ryushen21]

No need to tear down alcaraz. Sinner hype is very strong. Just 2 months back he was called the most overrated guy on ttw. There is huge difference.

Yeah, but for some reason, you and your fellow Djokovic fans feel the need to create a new thread about him every day. Like y'all think he reads the TTW forum and will wither away if you don't praise him daily in every possible thread on this forum.

Everyone here gets how good he is but we don't have to go on endlessly about it. That's just the Djokovic fans.

And y'all will never ease up on it.

 

[ojo rojo]

He'll still be a ginger


@Red Rick

 

[tennis3]

Possible. Let's see in 2024 ao at the very least. Let's not be too hasty.

Sinner will win Slams. But he would win a hell of a lot more on fast courts. He just doesn't get rewarded the rest of the year for his amazing ball striking.

I wish they mixed up the surface speeds a lot more. I'm not against Nadal being unbeatable on clay. That's his game. But that game should get annihilated (Del Potro style) on hard court.

Sinner is always going to run into a Medvedev or Djokovic the rest of the year. Guys that can lock down the court, but also hit winners. He's always going to have trouble with this type of player on slower surfaces.

 

[dking68]

He will not end the year in the top 3.

At slams pts accumulated

Djokovic 7200, Alcaraz 3400, Medvedev 1900, Sinner 1100

Masters

Djokovic around 2500, Medvedev over 3000, Alcaraz above 3000 Sinner around 2500

So Djokovic has 10000 pts just from big tournaments. Raz has 6500 pts and Medvedev 5000+. While sinner has less than 4000 pts from big tournaments.

The hype is good because sinner finally is able to beat Djokovic and Medvedev. But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. Sinner hasn't reached a slam final yet still and is beaten before semis in 3 of the 4 slams. He has to prove it this week but also next year in Melbourne.

He wasn’t as good in the first half of the year as he is now. He’s a better hard courter than Medvedev now. Sinner is 44-8 on hard court, 85% win rate, that’s amazing

 

[3loudboys]

He will not end the year in the top 3.

At slams pts accumulated

Djokovic 7200, Alcaraz 3400, Medvedev 1900, Sinner 1100

Masters

Djokovic around 2500, Medvedev over 3000, Alcaraz above 3000 Sinner around 2500

So Djokovic has 10000 pts just from big tournaments. Raz has 6500 pts and Medvedev 5000+. While sinner has less than 4000 pts from big tournaments.

The hype is good because sinner finally is able to beat Djokovic and Medvedev. But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. Sinner hasn't reached a slam final yet still and is beaten before semis in 3 of the 4 slams. He has to prove it this week but also next year in Melbourne.

It could be a break out win for him ... providing the additional confidence needed when he comes up against them in majors. They will be more concerned over meeting him going forward.

 

[Mazz Retic]

10char

 

[nolefam_2024]

Haha that may be true but as another poster pointed out, TTW is dying out so no one really cares.

Is this thread worse than sinner propaganda that was here for months. I am only showing the context of yesterday's win.

 

[Kralingen]

Sinner will win Slams. But he would win a hell of a lot more on fast courts. He just doesn't get rewarded the rest of the year for his amazing ball striking.

I wish they mixed up the surface speeds a lot more. I'm not against Nadal being unbeatable on clay. That's his game. But that game should get annihilated (Del Potro style) on hard court.

Sinner is always going to run into a Medvedev or Djokovic the rest of the year. Guys that can lock down the court, but also hit winners. He's always going to have trouble with this type of player on slower surfaces.

Sinner is a far more gifted offensive player with much better power and pace generation than Medvedev. Medvedev is not good on slow surfaces.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Sinner is a far more gifted offensive player with much better power and pace generation than Medvedev. Medvedev is not good on slow surfaces.

Right. But meddy has to beat him on fast surface at least. 2 losses in a row is damning for him. Out of sudden all players are dropping like flies in front of him. I think rune will too.

 

[dking68]

Right. But meddy has to beat him on fast surface at least. 2 losses in a row is damning for him. Out of sudden all players are dropping like flies in front of him. I think rune will too.

Sinner in two tomorrow

 

[travlerajm]

But Sinner is closing in and within 0.01 of overtaking Daniil for World #2 in the UTR rankings, which is the only ranking everyone cares about.

 

[jm1980]

How predictable. A Djokovic fan making a thread to tear down a player who just beat Djokovic.

Remember how fragile Djokovic is and that he needs continuous adoration.

The overwhelming majority of posts bashing young players comes from Djokovic haters and/or Federer and Nadal fans, who seek to discredit Novak's competition

As for the OP, this is yet another post from him that's directly or indirectly critical of Djokovic. It would be like someone named "vasishtha-fedfan" created a thread bashing Hewitt and Roddick

Almost every Djokovic fan I've seen praised Jannik's performance

 

[SonnyT]

If Sinner wins ATP finals, he will have done w/o winning a M1000.

 

[Hitman]

The overwhelming majority of posts bashing young players comes from Djokovic haters and/or Federer and Nadal fans, who seek to discredit Novak's competition

As for the OP, this is yet another post from him that's directly or indirectly critical of Djokovic. It would be like someone named "vasishtha-fedfan" created a thread bashing Hewitt and Roddick

Almost every Djokovic fan I've seen praised Jannik's performance

It's pretty obvious.

 

[dking68]

If Sinner wins ATP finals, he will have done w/o winning a M1000.

He won Toronto

 

[ChrisJR3264]

He won Toronto

Casper Ruud has been to 3 GS finals and an ATP final without winning a masters 1000 or atp 500 lol

 

[TripleATeam]

Who asked?

 

[dking68]

How predictable. A Djokovic fan making a thread to tear down a player who just beat Djokovic.

Remember how fragile Djokovic is and that he needs continuous adoration.

He’s gonna be surprised his daylights out when Sinner wins a slam next year and great chance of beating Alcaraz into the ground

 

[ChrisJR3264]

He’s gonna be surprised his daylights out when Sinner wins a slam next year and great chance of beating Alcaraz into the ground

I hope sinner wins a slam next year. He’s pretty good on all 3 surfaces. Hopefully the final 4 in Australia is Nole/sinner/Carlos/med

 

[dking68]

I hope sinner wins a slam next year. He’s pretty good on all 3 surfaces. Hopefully the final 4 in Australia is Nole/sinner/Carlos/med

Seems like it. If Sinner lands in Carlos’s half, it’s gonna be a Nole Sinner AO final for sure

 

[nolefam_2024]

Carlos has been a total loser kind of guy since he lost to Medvedev in USopen. He has to show more fire instead of playing meek. He is going Rafa way in pressers.

 

[ChrisJR3264]

Seems like it. If Sinner lands in Carlos’s half, it’s gonna be a Nole Sinner AO final for sure

Well if med makes the final at ATP and knocks out Carlos Friday - solid chance he can take #2 ranking from him

 

[dking68]

Well if med makes the final at ATP and knocks out Carlos Friday - solid chance he can take #2 ranking from him

Sinner is a better player than Medvedev now

 

[tudwell]

Seems like it. If Sinner lands in Carlos’s half, it’s gonna be a Nole Sinner AO final for sure

Only if Sinner makes it past the the round of sixteen next year.

 

[dking68]

Only if Sinner makes it past the the round of sixteen next year.

What is your assessment of Sinner in the last 2 months?

 

[ChrisJR3264]

Sinner is a better player than Medvedev now

It’s possible as he’s had his number the last two times.
Doesn’t mean med can’t take #2 ranking here by Sunday lol. Sinner can’t move up.

 

[ChrisJR3264]

What is your assessment of Sinner in the last 2 months?

Good in atp 500’s. Not durable in slams

 

[dking68]

It’s possible as he’s had his number the last two times.
Doesn’t mean med can’t take #2 ranking here by Sunday lol. Sinner can’t move up.

Either way, Medvedev is yet to defend a title. Remember how Medvedev won 4 titles or so at the beginning of 2023? Yeah I’m sure Sinner will have his dinner when they play each other in those tournaments

 

[ChrisJR3264]

Either way, Medvedev is yet to defend a title. Remember how Medvedev won 4 titles or so at the beginning of 2023? Yeah I’m sure Sinner will have his dinner when they play each other in those tournaments

Sinner has yet to defend a title….
Also med’s probably the smartest player on tour. I wouldn’t be surprised if he knocks sinner down here if they meet Saturday or Sunday.

 

[dking68]

Sinner has yet to defend a title….

Sofia 2020, 2021

 

[ChrisJR3264]

Sofia 2020, 2021

Ah my bad. The last 250 of the year where no one plays bc the top guys are in Turin.

 

[dking68]

Ah my bad. The last 250 of the year where no one plays bc the top guys are in Turin.

Point is, Sinner has defended one. Medvedev is going to lose a lot of points after Miami/IW. I don’t see him defending any of those points, Sinner will just keep beating him into the ground if they meet in semis/finals

 

[ChrisJR3264]

Point is, Sinner has defended one. Medvedev is going to lose a lot of points after Miami/IW. I don’t see him defending any of those points, Sinner will just keep beating him into the ground if they meet in semis/finals

Indian wells I’d say sure. Miami - tbd.
Just bc he hasn’t defended a title doesn’t mean he can’t. Or won’t win other titles.
Meds been atp top 5 player consistently since 2019. You act like he’s trash. Lol

 

[dking68]

Sinner has yet to defend a title….
Also med’s probably the smartest player on tour. I wouldn’t be surprised if he knocks sinner down here if they meet Saturday or Sunday.

He isn’t beating Sinner in Turin.

 

[dking68]

Indian wells I’d say sure. Miami - tbd.
Just bc he hasn’t defended a title doesn’t mean he can’t. Or won’t win other titles.

You think Medvedev is getting better? No. Sinner is

 

[ChrisJR3264]

You think Medvedev is getting better? No. Sinner is

You’re acting like a guy who’s been in the top 5 since 2019 is complete trash.
And yes. Med is getting better still. He won a title on clay and made QFs in Monte Carlo. So….

 

[ChrisJR3264]

He isn’t beating Sinner in Turin.

Sounds good boss. And if he does?

 

[dking68]

You’re acting like a guy who’s been in the top 5 since 2019 is complete trash.
And yes. Med is getting better still. He won a title on clay and made QFs in Monte Carlo. So….

Sinner is 59-14 this year, Medvedev at age 27 has a lower win percentage than Sinner and Sinner is getting better week after week

 

[dking68]

Sounds good boss. And if he does?

You want to bet?