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G.O.A.T.
He doesn't have the best track record.Zverev would make a solid Finalist.
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He doesn't have the best track record.Zverev would make a solid Finalist.
It's equally likely for a 4th seed to face any of the 5th-8th seeds in QF.If a player is seeded 4, is it more likely that he will face a 5/6 seed in QF? Or is it equally possible for him to draw against a 7/8 seed?
Does anyone know this/ have emprical evidence?
Thanks for the reference. The question is it so in practice as well? Or do they kind of fix draws such that 3/4 seeds face 5/6 seeds in QF more often?It's equally likely for a 4th seed to face any of the 5th-8th seeds in QF.
See Grand Slam 2022 rulebook , page 27, section "v. Procedure for Placing Seeds"
Thanks.. it does seem random.That would be impossible to prove. Here are the last few GS draws with the top seeds in each quarter:
AO 2021: 1-6, 3-8, 4-7, 2-5
RG 2021: 1-8, 3-7, 4-6, 2-5
WB 2021: 1-5, 3-8, 4-7, 2-6
USO 2021: 1-6, 4-7, 3-5, 2-8
AO 2022: 1-7, 3-6, 4-8, 2-5
seems pretty random to me
Correct. But I wonder if being 4 is better than being 4. As being 5 opens up the possibility of having Med and Zverev as potential QF/SF draw. Whereas being 4 means a possible QF with Tsitsipas/ Alcaraz.Nadal has to get one round further than Tsitsipas to retain #4 this week, otherwise he'll be #5 and crazy possibilities like a Djokovic-Nadal Quarterfinal are possible.
Lol you want all 3 who can beat rafa to land in other half...which means you are not confident of rafa's chances if he ends up in Djoker alcaraz halfMaybe.. the key is how is the draw divided. Rafa, Novak, Stef and Alcaraz are the top 4. The ideal situation would be Novak, Stef, Alcaraz in one half and Rafa in the other with Med, Zverev.
Being 5th seed may result in a better draw than 4th for Rafa.
You got to be realistic right. Ofcourse Rafa can win FO with Alcaraz and Novak in the same half. But it will be lot easier and more likely if he has to face them later.Lol you want all 3 who can beat rafa to land in other half...which means you are not confident of rafa's chances if he ends up in Djoker alcaraz half
Yes to Alcaraz. But how shapo?Bulldal is safe now from playing Alcaraz in the QF, and Shapo in R4, isn't he?
Bulldal is safe now from playing Alcaraz in the QF, and Shapo in R4, isn't he?
Gj. It's about time Novak gets some luck his way and Ralph have to fight through a really tough French draw. The fact that #1 can draw the highest seeds of the #5-#8 is the dumbest thing in tennis. What's the point of being #1 if you don't get lower ranked players? We want Ralph vs Novak in the final. Top 8-12 should be systemized to some degree.This will be huge.
We are pretty sure the seedings will look like this:
1-2 Djokovic Medvedev
3-4 Zverev Tsitsipas
5-6 Nadal Alcaraz
7-8 Rublev FAA
assuming no Medvedev withdrawal.
From an each of the Top8 perspective:
for Djokovic
Draw Of The Dreams
QF FAA/Rublev
SF Zverev/FAA/Rublev
Draw From The Hell
QF Alcaraz/Nadal
SF Tsitsipas/Alcaraz/Nadal
for Medvedev
Draw Of The Dreams
QF FAA/Rublev
SF Zverev/FAA/Rublev
Draw From The Hell
QF Alcaraz/Nadal
SF Tsitsipas/Alcaraz/Nadal
for Zverev
Draw Of The Dreams
QF FAA/Rublev
SF Medvedev/FAA/Rublev
Draw From The Hell
QF Alcaraz/Nadal
SF Djokovic/Alcaraz/Nadal
for Tsitsipas
Draw Of The Dreams
QF FAA/Rublev
SF Medvedev/FAA/Rublev
Draw From The Hell
QF Alcaraz/Nadal
SF Djokovic/Alcaraz/Nadal
for Nadal
Draw Of The Dreams
QF Medvedev
SF Zverev
Draw From The Hell
QF Djokovic/Tsitsipas
SF Djokovic/Alcaraz
for Alcaraz
Draw Of The Dreams
QF Medvedev
SF Zverev
Draw From The Hell
QF Djokovic/Tsitsipas
SF Djokovic/Nadal
for Rublev
Draw Of The Dreams
QF Medvedev
SF Zverev
Draw From The Hell
QF Djokovic/Alcaraz/Nadal
SF Djokovic/Alcaraz/Nadal
for FAA
Draw Of The Dreams
QF Medvedev
SF Zverev
Draw From The Hell
QF Djokovic/Alcaraz/Nadal
SF Djokovic/Alcaraz/Nadal
Your wrong. And your saltyWhy would he need safety from Shapovalov lol? I would love a Shapovalov match at RG for Rafa. If healthy he will obliterate him
Your wrong. And your salty
I just hope Novak will get Nadal in QF or SF... To prevent schedule games...
I just hope Novak will get Nadal in QF or SF... To prevent schedule games...
Yeah, but they just put Nadal to play as early as possible (even a day earlier if it's possible), and Novak last match that finishes after midnight... But yes, you are right, roof will prevent some ridiculous schedule we saw over years (always in Nadal's favour, each time literally, not only against Novak)...Not sure that is possible now, wth the roof, and late night matches, everyone will finish their matches on time.
Yeah, but they just put Nadal to play as early as possible (even a day earlier if it's possible), and Novak last match that finishes after midnight... But yes, you are right, roof will prevent some ridiculous schedule we saw over years (always in Nadal's favour, each time literally, not only against Novak)...
The Excuse Brigade never sleeps. If it’s not a foot injury it’s a roof. Poor Nadal, can’t catch a break!Amusing to see whining about scheduling games after Nadal and Djokovic played a Wimbledon semifinal and Roland Garros final under the roofs without any rain falling either time.
The Excuse Brigade never sleeps. If it’s not a foot injury it’s a roof. Poor Nadal, can’t catch a break!![]()
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Exactly. Roof makes no differenceWhy would he need an excuse for the demolition job in RG 2020 lol? It's just funny that they played indoors
Exactly. Roof makes no difference
Excuse Brigade still dealing with that Wimbledon loss!That must be why player results often change drastically depending on whether they play under a roof or not![]()
Excuse Brigade still dealing with that Wimbledon loss!
Don’t want to leave you without an excuseThanks for dropping the 'roofs don't matter' bit. That wasn't very tenable
Don’t want to leave you without an excuse
I agree mostly, but on this level even small things can be decisive... Just look at Novak's latest slams loses... He mostly played grueling 5 setters, often as second SF...Even if Novak's match does go late, he will still get a full complete day's of rest on Saturday, if he has Nadal waiting in the final. It won't be too bad for him, because now at RG they are all certain of getting a day off between their matches.
Always glad to help the Excuse BrigadeThanks for admitting it all the same, that was a all I needed to hear from you![]()
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I agree mostly, but on this level even small things can be decisive... Just look at Novak's latest slams loses... He mostly played grueling 5 setters, often as second SF...
That must be why player results often change drastically depending on whether they play under a roof or not![]()
I just hope Novak will get Nadal in QF or SF... To prevent schedule games...
Ruud way more dangerous than ZverevNadal to get Rublev and Ruud while Novak gets Alcaraz and Zverev.
How can their be excuses for a guy with he Slam Record and de facto GOAT?Don’t want to leave you without an excuse
lolRuud way more dangerous than Zverev
Do you honestly rate Zverev at Majors?
Do you honestly rate Zverev at Majors?
Well he might get a top 10 win at some point?over Ruud?
What single indicator is there of Ruud being better at majors than Zverev, even at RG alone?
Well now the top 8 are almost final unless anyone withdraws. (7/8 may interchange)
1. Novak
2. Med
3. Zed
4. Tsit
5. Nadal
6. Alcaraz
7. Rublev/Ruud
8. Ruud/Rublev
What would be the expected draw between them? Any guesses based on past draws?