Excessive wrist lag/inversion on forehand?

[zill]

Players like Edmund and Sock have a lot of wrist lag on their forehands.

Wawrinka and Djokovic have a bit as well although not as much. Players with very western grips usually have more lag on their forehands. What are the pros and cons of

 

[JackSockIsTheBest]

Players like Edmund and Sock have a lot of wrist lag on their forehands.

Wawrinka and Djokovic have a bit as well although not as much. Players with very western grips usually have more lag on their forehands. What are the pros and cons of

I have a edmund/sock type forehand...
Pros:
Easy high balls, easy spin, etc...
Cons:
Low balls, sometimes power, & consistency.

 

[zill]

I have a edmund/sock type forehand...
Pros:
Easy high balls, easy spin, etc...
Cons:
Low balls, sometimes power, & consistency.

Do you have it by choice or is this the only forehand that works for you?

 

[JackSockIsTheBest]

Do you have it by choice or is this the only forehand that works for you?

by choice & it works well for me unlike some of my friends

 

[LeeD]

Lag, more potential power and less potential control.
Play tennis, try all combinations and practice what works for you based on consistency, power, and repeatibility.

 

[Curious]

Lag/inversion??
It’s called pronated take back.

 

[zill]

Lag/inversion??
It’s called pronated take back.

I think pronation occurs in the forward swing. Anyway what do you think of it?

 

[Curious]

I think pronation occurs in the forward swing. Anyway what do you think of it?

If your palm is facing down or the back fence it’s a pronated position. Talking about the end of backswing, not the forward swing. From there it first supinates, then pronates again in the forward swing.

 

[5263]

it works well with the swivel

 

[zill]

it works well with the swivel

By swivel you mean racquet flip just after the inversion to get the racquet right orientation?

 

[Dragy]

A bit tangent to the original question, but I came to some ideas regarding bent arm forehand, particularly with high elbow/low racquet head takeback. In my opinion, such configuration makes the requirement to rotate arm and flip the racquet back as forward swing starts much more obvious and clear. With more conservative takeback, with straight arm, there is an option of “sliding” racquet into lag without the flip, and therefore not achieving proper shoulder-arm-wrist structure. With tip forward elbow high takeback it’s natural to then rotate elbow low, and with bent elbow it’s more naturally pulls arm into rotation when lagging...

 

[FedIsBoat]

Assuming wrist lag = wrist extension, then it's the opposite. More wrist lag occurs on Eastern FHs than SW or Western. For Western almost no wrist lag occurs due to the position of the hand in the grip.

 

[5263]

Assuming wrist lag = wrist extension, then it's the opposite. More wrist lag occurs on Eastern FHs than SW or Western. For Western almost no wrist lag occurs due to the position of the hand in the grip.

the important nature of the lag is getting to a drag position from the slot, so I would not equate wrist lag with extension.

 

[5263]

By swivel you mean racquet flip just after the inversion to get the racquet right orientation?

yes, at that same juncture, but no, the flip is more over the top and a vestige of the big C takeback Imo.

 

[Jonesy]

In my western forehand i just turn the wrist in the forehand right when i'm about to hit the ball. No excessive preparation or anything.

 

[dominikk1985]

Excessive lag can create more RHS but only if you have a lot of flexility. Muscles have an optimal amount of pre stretch at which they work best, if you have too much stretch power output might be limited just like with too little stretch. Thus extreme lag only makes sense for hyperflexible guys. Same applies to shoulder ESR in serve. You need ESR but too much can limit or even hurt you.

Many baseball pitchers for example have extremely flexible shoulders to an almost unhealthy degree. Can't replicate that with average flexibility. Some can be increased with stretching but part is also genetics especially when talking active range.

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