Extreme Tour, better than the Blade?

I still prefer the Blade v7 18x20 over the Extreme Tour in stock form and when I get it spec'd the same as my Blade. The Blade v7 18x20 is just a beast and the Extreme Tour is pretty good but it felt a little more tinny compared to the more plush Blade v7. I think it's all preference since I did like the Prestige G360+ Mid but that racquet is more demanding.
 

n8dawg6

Legend
I hit some more. Spin serves are comically nasty.

It's more muted and less powerful than the prestige, less muted than the Blade and comparable on power, I think it will be very popular with the juniors and the gen X crowd will find a reason not to like it.

J
dammit i am (barely) the gen x crowd
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
When do the 360+ Prestige Mid v Extreme Tour conversations start? I'm here for that.

To me, the Extreme Tour is more comfortable version of the PS 16x19, with better feel. In stock form, it's underpowered, similar to the Ezone 98 I would say (both about 317 SW). I tried getting on with the PS 16x19 a few months ago, but didn't gel with it, whilst I liked the Extreme Tour straight off the bat. The ET lets me rally with ease, but it's not extremely easy to really rip winners.

The Mid+ otoh is a Prestige through-and-through, comparable to the IG line f.inst (of the Prestige I've tried)., or a more modern, easier to play PT 2.0. It plays like a 95 due to its 16x19 pattern. Where this racket shines, is that it delivers exactly what you put into it. If my footwork's on point, I can command the points on hc. The downside compared to the ET, is that it punishes you if you try to rally with ease, coughing up short, attackable balls.
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
Gravity tour hits a decent quality ball but there is no feel or feedback.
Can you please elaborate here? The ET is my daily driver. Does a lot of things really well for me. Though when you add weight to the hoop things start to get a little firm (I have 4-6 grams in mine depending on the variance - all 330-335 SW strung). Was hoping the GT would help with that. Is the GT just too soft and nebulous like the v7 Blades?
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Can you please elaborate here? The ET is my daily driver. Does a lot of things really well for me. Though when you add weight to the hoop things start to get a little firm (I have 4-6 grams in mine depending on the variance - all 330-335 SW strung). Was hoping the GT would help with that. Is the GT just too soft and nebulous like the v7 Blades?

With the gravity I can't tell where on the string bed I hit the ball.

J
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
With the gravity I can't tell where on the string bed I hit the ball.

J
Good to know. Wonder if something firmer like ALU or TB would help define the stringbed in the GT. Regardless I will give the GT a fair shake since I can spec it pretty close to my ET and hopefully benefit from the added flex.
 

MikhailT

Rookie
Yeah... there are two different buttcaps and no pictures of the trap door from the side or below so it could be weighted as well, who knows
to follow up for others: the butt cap and the trap door are identical to what I have on my 360+ Speed MP and it includes the 5g of weight :mad:, despite the TW staff's confirmation, that there is no weight on the trap door.
Having said that, it took me 5 minutes and a sharp knife to remove the weight.
 

guilhermefdc

Semi-Pro
to follow up for others: the butt cap and the trap door are identical to what I have on my 360+ Speed MP and it includes the 5g of weight :mad:, despite the TW staff's confirmation, that there is no weight on the trap door.
Having said that, it took me 5 minutes and a sharp knife to remove the weight.
Head's trap door weights 7g and it's the same on all racquets - they've done it because that's exactly what the Head tennis sensor weights and if you install it, there won't be any changes in balance or SW. It doesn't count as "added weight", as it is the same on every frame (except for the Pro Tour 2.0)
 

guilhermefdc

Semi-Pro
So, let’s say that I might have an Extreme Tour coming, what would you guys suggest I string it with?
I was thinking about going the whole Jolly way and using Grey Fire @ 52/49 rather than Element. Also considering Lynx Tour...
I’ll probably play with it stock for at least 1 hour, but I already bought some lead - my plan is to add ~3 grams @ 12 to bring the SW (at least) to 330, assuming I find it underpowered as others have.
 

n80aoag

Professional
Very different frames. The Tour is reminescent of a Pure Strike 16x19, whereas the Pro ressembles a Pure Aero Tour.

Returning mine for a second Tour.
Sounds like I'd fancy an Extreme Tour then. I did like the current Strike 16x19 when I owned one last yr. PA Tour was unnecessarily heavy IMO. Thanks for feeding my racquetholism
 

Tennisist

Professional
To me, the Extreme Tour is more comfortable version of the PS 16x19, with better feel. In stock form, it's underpowered, similar to the Ezone 98 I would say (both about 317 SW). I tried getting on with the PS 16x19 a few months ago, but didn't gel with it, whilst I liked the Extreme Tour straight off the bat. The ET lets me rally with ease, but it's not extremely easy to really rip winners.

I fully support the analogy above. I also feel there is a lot of similarity between the Extreme Tour MP and ProStaff 16x19. They both produce the same amount of power and have very similar response. I would not call that one had a better feel than the other. To me, the feel is equivalent: both firm, with slight dampening/diffusion.

With this in mind, I hope you realize that ET is very different from the Blades. ( Note: I put some tailweight on mine, to get a familiar swingpath. Maybe, if you put the weight on the head, instead of the bottom, you will end up with something that resembles the Blade. )

In this tailweighted configuration, ET has much less plough than the Blades -- with all the consequences: lower power, weaker serves, harder to counter heavy hitters. But for me, it works better than the Blades, because I can swing it fast. My strokes are " brushy", and it works very well for me. It does generate significant spin, but not the topmost levels (I've seen better). Overall, ET is very predictable frame. I would even say "precise" for a 16x19 frame. It does exactly what I intend. (Unlike the Blades, with which I constantly need to wrestle.) It is for this reason that I've had good results with it in matches. As for the feel, I do not care much for it in ET (or the Blades, for that matter).
 
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DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
Should I consider demo the extreme or the blade. I use the Ezone 98 305 blue (last model).
If you still enjoy ezone 98 try the new one or even new ezone 100 which I found it better than new 98. Extreme tour has nothing in common with extreme line. Low powered radical under the extreme costume. Blade V7 offers less free power than the previous blades..... don’t event bother trying that kind of racquets. For you it’s more logical to try sticks like V core 98, ezone 98 tour, clash 98, speed mp, strike 98, pa vs, extreme mp, blade 98s, beast 98 etc
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
They didn't make a 360+ Extreme Pro. It stopped at the 360 line. So the Extreme Pro feels off to me.

I'm looking at it right as we speak (or as I write to be more correct) :)
It just didn't make it to the US, as Head didn't think it'd sell in the US it seems.

I used to own the 360 version, and it felt pretty similar, based on my recollection of how that played. Didn't really notice the tighter stringbed or the 5 added grams. I don't really see the Tour as a competitor as most would chose quite easily between the PS 16x19 and a PA/PAT as they reward pretty different game styles.

That being said, if you liked the 360 EP, you'll prob love the 360+ EP, as there's lots of power on tap, and compared to the MP you can be really aggressive on incoming pace. This is a hammer.
 

Lorenn

Hall of Fame
I'm looking at it right as we speak (or as I write to be more correct) :)
It just didn't make it to the US, as Head didn't think it'd sell in the US it seems.

Hard to know which market each person is in so one way or the other it would be problematic. Sad they did not release it in the US... I did like the Tour.
 

1hander

Rookie
If you still enjoy ezone 98 try the new one or even new ezone 100 which I found it better than new 98. Extreme tour has nothing in common with extreme line. Low powered radical under the extreme costume. Blade V7 offers less free power than the previous blades..... don’t event bother trying that kind of racquets. For you it’s more logical to try sticks like V core 98, ezone 98 tour, clash 98, speed mp, strike 98, pa vs, extreme mp, blade 98s, beast 98 etc
What is the blade 98s and is it on the wilson website?
 

Stratotanker

Semi-Pro
Has anyone tried the Extreme Tour with gut + poly? Do the spin grommets reduce the longevity of the gut?

I played a set with natural in the mains and poly in the crosses for a few months. Played just fine, liked it a lot actually, didn't have any issues with durability. I'm a mid-30s 4.5, hit with a decent amount of topspin.
 

alexg

Rookie
I played a set with natural in the mains and poly in the crosses for a few months. Played just fine, liked it a lot actually, didn't have any issues with durability. I'm a mid-30s 4.5, hit with a decent amount of topspin.

Thank you!
I am demoing the stick; the demo is strung with RPM blast 17, and I think that this string is past its prime, so it's a little underpowered as is. I know that when it's fresh, RPM actually has decent pop. Not this one.
On my 2HBH, I really have to work the ball up to clear the net.
I am thinking this racquet may come to life with Hyper G 17, or VS Team (17 gauge Babolat gut, whatever it's called now), and Yonex Poly Tour Pro 1.20, which is my go to setup.
Any other string setups that you think would work well?
 

ChanterRacquet

Professional
Been curious (for giggles) if there’s a better 16x19 but still near the swingweight of my CX200os…

Just got an extreme tour demo after running across this revived thread. I was hoping the Blade v8 would bring down the swingweight from the v7, but not as much as they did! We’ll see how the ExTour gets along, not as flexy as my cx or the blade though.

Specs of the demo with Lynx 17:
360+ extreme tour
315g
33.0
318

Also trying mp with velocity:
360+ extreme mp
314g
33.0
317

Will have to take a screw driver along and play with and without that butt cap, crazy how different it feels (better?) without. But the MP is better with…just free swinging in the living room.
 

ChanterRacquet

Professional
Well, the extreme mp is hot garbage (EDIT: I think it’s more like velocity is hot garbage) but the extreme tour is the easier to use speed pro/blade v7 you’ve always wanted. Holy crap it’s gooooooooooood. Puts the blade v8 to shame.
 
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DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
Well, the extreme mp is hot garbage but the extreme tour is the easier to use speed pro/blade v7 you’ve always wanted. Holy crap it’s gooooooooooood. Puts the blade v8 to shame.
It doesn’t even put the worst Blade in shame the V6 CV. Extreme tour is a powerless prestige painted in extreme line colors.
 

ChanterRacquet

Professional
It doesn’t even put the worst Blade in shame the V6 CV. Extreme tour is a powerless prestige painted in extreme line colors.

Undoubtedly my impression is biased by the powerful poly that this tour is strung with (lynx). I have my power frame in my cx200os. I enjoyed the control of the tour coupled with what power it does have.

The 16m Blade v8 is so variable in spec it is a joke. My demo was so light it was stupid. That is shameful.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I just tried to purchase an Extreme Pro from TW Europe... and it informed me that I can't as I'm in Australia and they don't allow me to purchase this model.

Pretty crappy... and a bad business model for Head as I would have purchased the Pro from Europe and the Tour from Aus. I guess I might only buy one of those racquets instead of two. One less sale for Head.
 
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yessir

Semi-Pro
I just tried to purchase an Extreme Pro from TW Europe... and it informed me that I can't as I'm in Australia and they don't allow me purchase this model.

Pretty crappy... and a bad business model for Head as I would have purchased the Pro from Europe and the Tour from Aus. I guess I might only buy one of those racquets instead of two. One less sale for Head.
Too bad..I found the 360+ Extreme Pro to be just a slightly more powerful 360+ Extreme Tour which was exactly what i needed 1 year ago cause i found the Tour to be somewhat weak in terms of power.
 

alexg

Rookie
I find the Tour to have the power level for my game. It's filling that gap between a very comfy, low powered and demanding blade, and the powerful, spiny and uncomfortable pure strike.

More power than a blade v8 98 16x19.
A bit more than a blade v7 98 16x19.
A bit less than a pure strike project one7 98 16x19.
A bit less than a Speed MP 360+.
Less than a Yonex EZone 100 (first iteration).
Much less than the Extreme MP 360+.
 

BBM

Rookie
Wow I have the Extreme Tour and Speed MP 360+ and find them nothing alike. The Speed MP feels like a total rocket launcher compared to the Extreme Tour..
 

alexg

Rookie
I played a set with natural in the mains and poly in the crosses for a few months. Played just fine, liked it a lot actually, didn't have any issues with durability. I'm a mid-30s 4.5, hit with a decent amount of topspin.

Do you remember what gauges and tensions you used for gut and poly (and whether it was a continuous pull or a lockout machine)?
I am currently playing the Extreme Tour with Hyper G 17 at 48 (on a continuous pull machine), and it's the right level of power and control. Wondering how to convert this to a gut / poly setup for a B racquet.
 

jalapeno74

Rookie
Well, the extreme mp is hot garbage (EDIT: I think it’s more like velocity is hot garbage) but the extreme tour is the easier to use speed pro/blade v7 you’ve always wanted. Holy crap it’s gooooooooooood. Puts the blade v8 to shame.

Can't really go along with that statement - I really like the Extreme MP. It plays like a Pure Aero without the stiffness. Great raquet for a lot of folks
 
I just tried to purchase an Extreme Pro from TW Europe... and it informed me that I can't as I'm in Australia and they don't allow me to purchase this model.

Pretty crappy... and a bad business model for Head as I would have purchased the Pro from Europe and the Tour from Aus. I guess I might only buy one of those racquets instead of two. One less sale for Head.

why don’t you try tennis only? That’s the Australian branch of TW & TWE. Maybe they have it there?
 
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