FAA was robbed

messiahrobins

messiahrobins

G.O.A.T.
In control until the roof was closed. Shocking decision (Sabalenka will be bemused as well) and frankly the addition of rooves to the Slams has actually ruined the events as indoor tennis is totally different to outdoor tennis. We coped for 100 years without a roof at slams and managed to finish events on time.

Good luck to Cobolli, he is a good guy, but FAA has every right to feel aggrieved today.
 
I also thought the roof closing would benefit FAA and so did some of the commies, but there was one commie who said that Cobolli had been having trouble hitting through the ball in the wind and that the roof might help him raise his game. This was before he in fact did raise his game.
 
There's no third variable here to warrant controversy.

At AO you had multiple situations where nobody seemed sure how medical breaks and roof breaks and heat breaks all stack (or don't stack) onto each other and multiple matches were affected by extreme recovery periods.

A neutral roof closure by itself with no other story is just neutral.
 
brewcrew said:
FAA is one of the best indoor players in the world and grew up playing indoor in Canada. I bet if you had asked him before the match he would prefer the roof closed.
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Yes, he was brought up on the hard courts under rooftops. But I'd not bet he'd wanted any abrupt changes after his first successful set against Cobolli yesterday. The winds were blowing and so he was set for the weather from get-go.
BumElbow said:
The conditions were the same for both players. Cobolli is not known as being an indoor tennis specialist.
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Yes, both players had to cope with the same weather which should have kept them going. Stopping the players after one adjusts better than the other is just a plain influencing of the results. Didn't the RG organizers know what kind of weather was going to be during the match 30 minutes before the match?

The closing of rooftops during matches when one player is leading but it isn't raining is a blatant influencing of match results. The modern technology offers weather forecasts more accurate than ever before and so it should be used to make such decisions as when to close courts' rooftops or not.

Such interfering in tennis players' matches has happened a few times before and I recall that Felix Auger Aliassime has been robbed before too. In Australian Open quarterfinals once, the Canadian player had been leading Medvedev by two sets when the rooftop was closed due to heat and humidity. Eventually, the Russian won the following three sets to advance.

In a nutshell, the closing of rooftops isn't about what player has better background playing under the roof but about why the conditions for the match are changed during the match. At Roland Garros 2026, the roof was unprofessionally closed at the wrong time.
 
messiahrobins said:
In control until the roof was closed. Shocking decision (Sabalenka will be bemused as well) and frankly the addition of rooves to the Slams has actually ruined the events as indoor tennis is totally different to outdoor tennis. We coped for 100 years without a roof at slams and managed to finish events on time.

Good luck to Cobolli, he is a good guy, but FAA has every right to feel aggrieved today.
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helterskelter said:
I also thought the roof closing would benefit FAA and so did some of the commies, but there was one commie who said that Cobolli had been having trouble hitting through the ball in the wind and that the roof might help him raise his game. This was before he in fact did raise his game.
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Exactly. I felt the same as well.
With roof closed coboli could hit FAA s backhand with more consistency.

Earlier he was just rallying and FAA was more effective because his forehand speed was more and could still hit winners .
After roof closure both could hit winners.


And finally the court was getting muddy..hence they closed the roof
 
I didn't see the match and can't judge the impact. There was a documentary on the RG Roof which included commentary from the engineer and officials involved and they always like to call it an "umbrella." This is because it stops rain but opened on the sides to allow air and ventilation. I saw the doc on Tennis Channel but don't know if it's still online somewhere. Nonetheless, the dynamics of any closure will have some impact on the conditions, but their argument is that the roof is the least obtrusive and allows for air to preserve some semblance of "outdoor" conditions.
 
I guess the issue with this one is whether the match would have continued outdoors if they didn't have the option of closing the roof. If the wind is so extreme it's going to cause a delay in play, close the roof. If not, play on outdoors.
 
actually had a run of Monday finals at U.S. Open because of rain...I don't like indoor slam tennis but players have to learn to deal with it like they did with rain delays
 
messiahrobins said:
In control until the roof was closed. Shocking decision (Sabalenka will be bemused as well) and frankly the addition of rooves to the Slams has actually ruined the events as indoor tennis is totally different to outdoor tennis. We coped for 100 years without a roof at slams and managed to finish events on time.

Good luck to Cobolli, he is a good guy, but FAA has every right to feel aggrieved today.
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Agree the roofs completely suck. Disagree insofar as FAA was going to mug it up roof or no roof.
 
What is the rule for closing the roof? Did it rain?
Certainly seemed unfair to the women if it was just for wind.


I prefer having the roof open. But we needs them to combat weather situations. Rain can shut down a tournament for days and roofs are reasonable compromises.
 
Automatix said:
Organizers, all of them, should just stop meddling with the conditions.
Significant chance of rain, wind, etc.? Close the roof, and keep it that way.
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I don't agree with closing it for wind, unless conditions are so severe as to be unplayable. That would only really be if debris is being continuously blown onto the court disrupting points. Otherwise it's up to the players to adjust to the conditions, rather than removing the difficult conditions from play.
 
John McEnroe may have influenced the Roland Garros organizers who then have influenced the Felix Auger Aliassime's match when they closed the roof after the first set. He was a commentator for TNT Sports throughout the WTA/ATP quarterfinals.

John McEnroe - “These players in this tournament have probably dealt with more challenging situations than any tournament I can recall. Brutal heat, all of sudden these gusty winds. The good news it’s not hot.”

The Roland Garros organisers eventually listened to McEnroe’s pleas as the roof on Philippe-Chatrier was closed after the first set between Auger-Aliassime and Cobolli.

www.tennis365.com

John McEnroe suggests Roland Garros made a mistake for Felix Auger-Aliassime and Flavio Cobolli's semi-final

John McEnroe believes the roof of Philippe-Chatrier should have been closed for Felix Auger-Aliassime vs Flavio Cobolli due to the wind.
www.tennis365.com www.tennis365.com
 
We need to make a list of players who were robbed at the French Open.

Earlier we would declare them "moral winners". But that was the strong era.
 
Stop commenting on matches you didn't even watch.
The match was disgusting and even.
When they closed the roof, it became watchable.
Felix was in complete control for the first 20 minutes under the roof.
The commentators were calling it an unfair advantage for him.
Once Cobolli regained his confidence, he played like a maniac to win.
 
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cha cha said:
Stop commenting on matches you didn't even watch.
The match was disgusting and even.
When they closed the roof, it became watchable.
Felix was in complete control for the first 20 minutes under the roof.
The commentators were calling it an unfair advantage for him.
Once Cobolli regained his confidence, he played like a maniac to win.
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It's not only that some TTW posters haven't watched the match but that some don't play/understand tennis well enough. They can't see the difference in between a windy and non-windy condition or the sense/ball bounce/swing timing one adjusts to prior to and in the first part of the match.
 
AgassiSuperSlam11 said:
There was a documentary on the RG Roof which included commentary from the engineer and officials involved and they always like to call it an "umbrella." This is because it stops rain but opened on the sides to allow air and ventilation.
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Apparently the main purpose is to allow wind and rain onto the proles in the upper tiers while the empty seats reserved for sponsors and companies stay nice and dry.
 
RSJfan said:
Agree the roofs completely suck. Disagree insofar as FAA was going to mug it up roof or no roof.
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Miss Thistlewaite would have been very proud of your use of the word “insofar.”

Likewise, your handling of the plural of roof was impeccably gentlemanly. Rather than publicly exposing the spelling error above, you simply employed the correct form yourself. Correcting other people’s spelling is among the less elegant forms of social interaction; setting a good example without comment is far more refined.
 
Taking everything into account, I think a defeat of FAA under the circumstances described above deserves considerably more sympathy than any hypothetical future defeat of Z.
 
Robert F said:
What is the rule for closing the roof? Did it rain?
Certainly seemed unfair to the women if it was just for wind.


I prefer having the roof open. But we needs them to combat weather situations. Rain can shut down a tournament for days and roofs are reasonable compromises.
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No rule to close for the windm shocking decision
 
There is too much robbery in a small city like Paris, I will warn my sister to be careful on the streets of this wonderful place.
 
Born_to_slice said:
Not robbed. He was mugged, by his own mug self. Still remember when Canadians spammed the board with baby goat gifs :cautious:
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FAA is not a "mug"
Sudacafan said:
Taking everything into account, I think a defeat of FAA under the circumstances described above deserves considerably more sympathy than any hypothetical future defeat of Z.
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I bet there have been a lot more Americans than Canadians spamming the board given this is mostly the US of A playground.

Remember that FAA was up one set and 3:1 in the second set when the organizers with the roof "mugged" him. 6:4, 4:6, 4:6, 4:6. Whether the result of that match would've been different or not had they closed the roof before the match started will remain unanswered. But what could be answered is whether those very organizers will keep their jobs and/or manage such big matches in the same ways as they have in the current RG 2026.
 
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