Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by Duzza, Mar 23, 2007.
Slobodan "Boba" Zivojinovic
^^^Amanda Coetzer was ridiculously fine.
This is such a great thread: so many players I'd personally forgotten but its lovely to be reminded of.- such as the 4 above. YouTube here I come!
Remember Lionel Roux?
This is him beating Stich at the Paris Indoors:
He invented top spin while becoming the first genuine cc player to win both Wimbledon and Forest Hills on fast grass...
I seem to remember a Mark Kevin Goellner, german player, i think i was a fan of his forehand. I think it was in the time we still received DSF (Deutsche Sport Fernsehen) here in the Netherlands. They broadcasted a lot of tennis.
Then the was Guillaume Raoux, a french player with glasses and is seem to remember him actually playing a weird Wilson racket designed for power and spin, with the strings having bigger holes at the top of the racket and smaller holes at the bottom.
Thank you for the reminder! Was a really big fan of him. If I remember correctly, he used to do this trick with his racket (more players do it), after losing a point. It would seem he would throw his racket to the ground, but then he flipped it over the back of his wrist and catch it again.
Fantastic player, with great creativity in his game.
Sorry for triple posting, but
Is it me or does that look scary close to Federer's forehand? He even has the look on the ball while he is hitting the ball.. :shock:
That's right. I also received DSF in Belgium and could watch these matches. Great time to be a tennis fan.
I now would have to pay for a subscription to Sport1, to be able to watch all the masters. Eurosport only broadcasts WTA and Aus Open and US Open I think. No atp tournaments whatsoever.
What kind of a channel do you have in Belgium for tennis?
By the way: Luckily there are online streams these days, so one can watch a little tennis
Well, I lived there as a kid. It was a great city to live in in terms of the availability of sports on TV. You could watch different tournaments in their home country's sports channels (French, Dutch, German, you name it) and then you had Eurosport with the best tennis coverage ever. I remember this time of the year was brilliant (in the 90's), there was a tennis tournament every week and Eurosport would show it. Nowadays I just have Eurosport and, like you, I basically watch the WTA, the Australian Open and the US Open.
You are right about Eurosport, they used to show a lot of tennis too.. I once wrote an e-mail about the lack of ATP-tennis on Eurosport, but they wrote back that there was no money for broadcasting ATP-tennis.. basically it had gotten to expensive.
Yeah, that's true. I'm all for variety but some events covered by Eurosport nowadays are just absurd. I understand winter sports, combat sports, motor sports and what have you. But under-everything football is just taking it a step too far. Who's watching these under-17 European Championships? There's about 10 people watching these matches locally. Why don't they assume that Eurosport is an alternative sports channel (as in alternative to football, the Leviathan of sports) and just leave football to other channels? Instead of under-every-age football we could either have more tennis or other sports that usually don't get a lot of recognition, like badminton (really fun to watch) or sumo (remember when they had sumo on Eurosport?).
Lili de Alvarez - arguably the first woman tennis player to choose to hit on the rise as far as possible (even before Fred Perry) and the first woman to woman to wear pants or shorts (something like a looser version of Nadal's pirate pants) at Wimbledon.
She was three times a Wimbledon finalist.
Tribe Called Quest write a song about her?
Anyway, hans jorgen pohmann,
Jean phillipE fleurian
Mike de palmer
Jonas b svensson
Buch Seewagen, Brent Pirrow.Mike Myburg and, of course, Jay Lapidus
Any of you guys in Europe have Supertennis HD? It's a life saver for tennis fans.
this is my first post on this forum. i entered, because i wanted to contribute to this particular thread!
i didn't read all the posts here, but the mentioning of some names brought back memories. i'd like to start with players from my homecountry GERMANY.
powerful baseliner, his forehand unbelievable, fit as hell
Steeb became an instant hero in germany, when he beat world no1 Mats Wilander in 1988 davis cup final after being two sets down
Steeb also had some wins over Agassi, Becker and Sampras
overall his passing shots were not well placed enough thats why he always had trouble with sv players
very stylish sv-player, a little bit like edberg, but even more a headcase
Jelen also became a davis cup hero for germany, in the very important doubles matches in the finals 88/89 alongside the great Boris Becker he won against Edberg/Jarryd twice
and in the leendary Hartford encounter with the US he won vs Mayotte just before Becker beat McEnroe in that epic 5setter
reached better 20s in the ranking
I play every so often with Eddie Dibbs. He is a real character and can still play with the best of them...
Yeah, fast Eddie came to some tourneys with big bikes...I liked the guy, and I have seen some few excellent matches featuring Dibbs.
thomas enqvist (an all time fav), nicholas kiefer, escude and lapentti), dominik hrbaty (another all time fav), andrew illie, jiri novak, buff farrow, vince van patten, sandrine tested, betty stove
And people picked on me when I made a Jarkko Nieminen thread.
I'd go with Cedric Pioline. Great player, fun to watch, , made US Open and Wimbledon finals. He lost his first 9 ATP tournament finals before he finally won one.
Mark Anders! nice picks. esp enqvist! firepower without end! had some interesting matches with agassi!
next up for me - our neighbours from holland
very solid all-around game, i think he reached top20 singles and was an excellent doubles player
Haarhuis is 3:1 h2h vs Sampras! and 3:3 vs Becker
he beat Becker in davis cup (one of only 3 losses of Becker) and he beat Becker at the uso 91 in straight sets. Haarhuis had 5 break points and converted 5!
i think his doubles partner was
sv specialist reached top30 in singles
he looks like the nicest guy in the world has a lovely court presence and doesnt seem overtly arrogant or arseholish.
not to mention his playstyle is just amazingly interesting.
Todd Nelson. Lovely guy.
there was fine tennis in Switzerland before Martina & Roger played by
top10 in late 80s, excellent sv-player
top10 in early 90s, reached sf at RG
very powerful forehand and serve-but-no-volley
together they reached the davis cup final in early 90s
and Heinz Gunthardt
With his height, big serve, and preference for groundstrokes, I call him the prototype for the modern player.
of course, but mostly with BALASZ TAROSZY in doubles.
Günthard was far behind Hlasek and Rosset as far as singles accomplishments are concerned. but later Heinz became famous as Steffis coach and top commentator on eurosport.
today's subject RUSSIA
reached top10 in singles, beat Wilander twice (!) at RG in straight sets.
ALEXANDER VOLKOV, ANDREJ CHERKASOV
Alex Metreveli (from Georgia....in the Caucasus Mts)
Love those old russians like Chessy ( lovely character) and Metrevali.
Miloslav Mecir. I've already mentioned him many times on here. I think there is a youtube video of he and McEnroe playing. I started paying attention when I saw an interview where Mac said he was his favorite player to watch and his "all court" game reminded him of himself. Indeed, he was fun to watch, but Mecir was more interested in fishing than tennis and as soon as he had enough money, he was gone from the game for good. If he has ever played on a senior circuit or exhibition map, I am unaware of it. I have not heard of the guy in over 20 years.
Yeah, is he on a lake outside Bratislava?
Mecir's son plays a good game. Similar to papa.
Bill Scanlon, Jose Luis Clerc and Virginia Ruzici
Mecir also one of my alltime favs. the movement, the balance, the swing. superb! i think i remember that he retired because of back problems. his son is playing now (~200).
Mecir was a complete headcase. he had convincing wins over McEnroe,Wilander, Edberg (@Wimbledon in straights), Becker and Lendl, but he often choked. eg that wimbysf 88 vs Edberg when Milo was in complete control for 2,5 sets.
and once i think it was in düsseldorf he lost his composure completely after two double faults vs Connors, so that he didnt serve overhead anymore.
but nevertheless 'the cat was coooool'!
what about SPAIN?
sv player, reached paris open (indoor) final, the only player that has two davis cup wins vs becker
rg finalist 93 with forehand only
the forgotten rg champion
FRANCISCO CLAVET, JAVIER SANCHEZ
John Pash from UK. Left-hander I believe.
That's simple: Mardy Fish
felix mantilla. sweet looking one handed backhand. there are some clay highlights of him playing albert costa i think in rome that are just fantastic
Wow, I was unaware Mecir's son played professionally. That would make three generations of Mecir tennis pros.
A good fighter who overcame a skin cancer and still kept playing.
Butch Walts came back to courts in 1982 after overcoming a testicle cancer, I think.
f Mantilla vs a Costa, nice call. Both sweet one-handers.
I remember seeing mantilla live. What a nice guy. Very generous with the ballkids. Used a volkl c 10 pro.
Costa..i remember him ripping an impatient agassi one day, like 1 and 1. This was early in the clay season, so agassi must have just flown over to europe. Not the best chapter in dre's career, but i remember being pretty impressed with costa, especially his return and his short angles to the side Ts.
Another forgotten one is eliot teltscher. Played at ucla in the late seventies, then was atp top ten in the early eighties. Teltscher is worthy of this thread, the one about college players and the one about one handers. Triplethreat as the hollywood people say.
multislam winner during the 1980s in singles! as a svplayer he reached the rg sf nad i remember him saying that he never expected that and that the only reason for coming to paris was that his wife (or girlfriend) wanted to go out shopping there. so she had some extra time and money to spend
Kriek later became a us citizen just like
played the best wimbledon fortnight in the 80s - except the final. beat mcenroe and connors in straights.
best south african player in the 90s. very solid top20 guy, but his biggest success came at the barcelona olympics where ferreira won a silver medal...
Let me add Bryan Shelton. Winner of back to back Hall of Fame titles.
Great one, HL.
B Shelton Played college tennis at georgia tech, did well on grass, once beat the great michael stich at wimbledon.
Todd Martin, Magnus Norman, Guy Forget, David Wheaton just to name a few off the top of my head.
Alex Corretja, Arnaud Boetsch, Carlos Costa, Paolo Canè, Andrés Gómez...
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