Fed asking himself right now "How did i lose 2 MP to this guy ?"

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Medvedev is a good player, no doubt about that, but not elite, and we saw it against Rafa last week.

So, today he upset Novak 3 weeks after he won Wimbledon by breaking Fed's heart in a thousands pieces.

Is it just me, but with this unexpected result, didn't Fed's reputation sink even lower ?
 
Nope
Playing Djokovic in a slam is way different to playing him in a M1000.
Remember him losing to Kohlschreiber and RBA after smoking Rafa at the AO?
 
Djokovic probably asks himself the same questions regarding losing to a journeyman like Wawrinka in the 2 finals they played.
 
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robthai said:
your hero lost to a guy that shows up once every 20 tournaments he enters. Wawrinka has always been a journeyman for the majority of his career.
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You forget how consistent he's been. In less than 4 years (UO 2013 - RG 2017) he reached 12 semifinals at Slams or YEC. Only once by beating Djokovic.
 
This is embarrassing from Fed fans on here. Absolutely desperate for any Djokovic loss.

Fed will still not win the USO this decade, accept it. He will lose to some mug again.
 
kevaninho said:
This is embarrassing from Fed fans on here. Absolutely desperate for any Djokovic loss.

Fed will still not win the USO this decade, accept it. He will lose to some mug again.
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What is it with you riding Djokovic coat tails? Is it because Nadal can't beat Federer anymore except at FO?
 
kevaninho said:
This is embarrassing from Fed fans on here. Absolutely desperate for any Djokovic loss.

Fed will still not win the USO this decade, accept it. He will lose to some mug again.
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Fed legacy as highest peak is secure

They’re all in 30s now. Neither of other big 3 could surpass Fed in 20s. Too busy losing to Murray, Wawrinka, Berdych and Verdaaco LOL
 
KINGROGER said:
Fed legacy as highest peak is secure

They’re all in 30s now. Neither of other big 3 could surpass Fed in 20s. Too busy losing to Murray, Wawrinka, Berdych and Verdaaco LOL
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If by highest peak you mean beating the likes of Hewitt, Blake, Ljubicic, Baghdatis and Roddick, then yes, Fed's legacy is safely secure.
 
Fed's legacy as a 20 Slam champion and tier 1 ATG is secure. He really should have closed out the Wimby 19 final when it was on his racket and will know that himself.

Novak lost a few Slams in the 2012-16 period that he was favorite for.

Medvedev shows signs of being a top player, but again, he has to maintain this form and these Masters events are the BO3 format. Even Novak at 32 is probably slowing down a little and prioritising the Slams now. When these kids start doing it in a Slam, then it really means something.

Good win by Meddy all the same. :)(y)
 
Maybe Djokovic fans could give their guy some credit?

Why do I think if the situation had been reversed people would just have said "really tough on Novak but these things happen in a long career - you'll have massively important points and some you'll get, some you won't". It wouldn't mean that Novak was in any way a lesser player.

Fed has played massively important points before and won them, this time it didn't go his way. If I had to choose between him making the break point shot against Tommy Haas and saving the break points against Nadal in the final game of AO 17 then I'd take them rather than the match points. Maybe the Wimby points were just pay back.

I know you're all having your fun rubbing it in for Federer fans but if you really want Novak to be seen as the best and you really want him to get the respect and attention he deserves then maybe start making him the hero rather than the sidekick in someone else's drama. Would you be going on about this if he'd saved the match points against someone else?
 
Fedforever said:
Maybe Djokovic fans could give their guy some credit?

Why do I think if the situation had been reversed people would just have said "really tough on Novak but these things happen in a long career - you'll have massively important points and some you'll get, some you won't". It wouldn't mean that Novak was in any way a lesser player.

Fed has played massively important points before and won them, this time it didn't go his way. If I had to choose between him making the break point shot against Tommy Haas and saving the break points against Nadal in the final game of AO 17 then I'd take them rather than the match points. Maybe the Wimby points were just pay back.

I know you're all having your fun rubbing it in for Federer fans but if you really want Novak to be seen as the best and you really want him to get the respect and attention he deserves then maybe start making him the hero rather than the sidekick in someone else's drama. Would you be going on about this if he'd saved the match points against someone else?
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(y)
 
Fedforever said:
Maybe Djokovic fans could give their guy some credit?

Why do I think if the situation had been reversed people would just have said "really tough on Novak but these things happen in a long career - you'll have massively important points and some you'll get, some you won't". It wouldn't mean that Novak was in any way a lesser player.

Fed has played massively important points before and won them, this time it didn't go his way. If I had to choose between him making the break point shot against Tommy Haas and saving the break points against Nadal in the final game of AO 17 then I'd take them rather than the match points. Maybe the Wimby points were just pay back.

I know you're all having your fun rubbing it in for Federer fans but if you really want Novak to be seen as the best and you really want him to get the respect and attention he deserves then maybe start making him the hero rather than the sidekick in someone else's drama. Would you be going on about this if he'd saved the match points against someone else?
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This.
 
Fedforever said:
Maybe Djokovic fans could give their guy some credit?

Why do I think if the situation had been reversed people would just have said "really tough on Novak but these things happen in a long career - you'll have massively important points and some you'll get, some you won't". It wouldn't mean that Novak was in any way a lesser player.

Fed has played massively important points before and won them, this time it didn't go his way. If I had to choose between him making the break point shot against Tommy Haas and saving the break points against Nadal in the final game of AO 17 then I'd take them rather than the match points. Maybe the Wimby points were just pay back.

I know you're all having your fun rubbing it in for Federer fans but if you really want Novak to be seen as the best and you really want him to get the respect and attention he deserves then maybe start making him the hero rather than the sidekick in someone else's drama. Would you be going on about this if he'd saved the match points against someone else?
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We tried to make Djokovic a hero at the beginning - didn't work. It was all on Fed's racket and his choking habits. That doesn't mean I am approving this thread.
 
OhYes said:
We tried to make Djokovic a hero at the beginning - didn't work. It was all on Fed's racket and his choking habits. That doesn't mean I am approving this thread.
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I'm not going to claim that all Fed fans have covered themselves in glory here. I've always thought the GOAT thing was stupid and was only ever going to come back and bite us - I can actually claim consistency on this if anyone's ever sad enough to go through previous posts!

But if Novak ever came on this forum or looked at his main social media followers then he'd find a few fantastic people who genuinely love him but he'd get the distinct impression that most of his followers only care about him as a weapon against a specific person. And who wants that? What's with all these posts gloating about how Nadal and Djoko will pass the slam record as if it doesn't matter which one it is? Most Fed fans will probably have a preference for which of them breaks the record, if it has to be that one of them does it. But not a single Fed fan would ever say "I don't care if Novak takes the record so long as it isn't Rafa" or the other way round.

I don't buy this image of neurotic Novak "desperate to be liked". He seems to me a lovely guy who, like all of us, wants to be valued for who he is. If anyone considers themselves a true fan of Novak, maybe they could start giving him that?
 
Fedforever said:
I'm not going to claim that all Fed fans have covered themselves in glory here. I've always thought the GOAT thing was stupid and was only ever going to come back and bite us - I can actually claim consistency on this if anyone's ever sad enough to go through previous posts!

But if Novak ever came on this forum or looked at his main social media followers then he'd find a few fantastic people who genuinely love him but he'd get the distinct impression that most of his followers only care about him as a weapon against a specific person. And who wants that? What's with all these posts gloating about how Nadal and Djoko will pass the slam record as if it doesn't matter which one it is? Most Fed fans will probably have a preference for which of them breaks the record, if it has to be that one of them does it. But not a single Fed fan would ever say "I don't care if Novak takes the record so long as it isn't Rafa" or the other way round.

I don't buy this image of neurotic Novak "desperate to be liked". He seems to me a lovely guy who, like all of us, wants to be valued for who he is. If anyone considers themselves a true fan of Novak, maybe they could start giving him that?
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You know well that there are all kinds of fans here, that they come and go, some of them change moods, and so on.
There are even those who you said are not existent - "I don't care if x takes the record as long as y doesn't." I've seen them.
Reason for some of us preaching is fact that Fed fans are dominant fanbase (have the most good, bad and whatever posters) and that they are the first who appeared here paving the way for all others in terms of behaving.
Maybe Rafa and Nole attract bit more of their countrymen than Roger, maybe there are some differences in personal preference toward style, stature and personality of their favs, but in general, fanbases are really very similar in behaving here. Only real difference is what kind of place their fav has in Slam chase.
 
Maybe some are wondering how Fed could lose to Rublev who got easily beaten by Med.
Rafa bageled Med less than one week ago.
And now Novak lost to Med.

USO will be interesting indeed!!
 
terribleIVAN said:
Medvedev is a good player, no doubt about that, but not elite, and we saw it against Rafa last week.

So, today he upset Novak 3 weeks after he won Wimbledon by breaking Fed's heart in a thousands pieces.

Is it just me, but with this unexpected result, didn't Fed's reputation sink even lower ?
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True

I look forward to USO now!!
 
Raiden said:
This is why Kyrgios > Djokovic, Andy Roddick > Djokovic etc etc

It's a matchup thing.
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Kyrgios is not > Djoker even just H2H. His wins came when Djoker was injured. Kyrgios is so garbage he can’t even GET TO a match against Djoker. Djoker would thrash him in a slam match today
 
Federer choked sure but how does a loss on a different surface and different number of sets correlate with that Wimby final loss?
 
terribleIVAN said:
Is it just me, but with this unexpected result, didn't Fed's reputation sink even lower ?
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Even with 20 slams, 310 weeks at #1 and 102 titles, Fed's reputation is indeed lower than whale s--t. A completely negligible tennis player, no talent and just won all his hardware lucking out by playing mugs in a weak era the past 21 years. Thanks for pointing this out. An absolutely genius perspective!
 
terribleIVAN said:
Medvedev is a good player, no doubt about that, but not elite, and we saw it against Rafa last week.

So, today he upset Novak 3 weeks after he won Wimbledon by breaking Fed's heart in a thousands pieces.

Is it just me, but with this unexpected result, didn't Fed's reputation sink even lower ?
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Players aren’t machines, they don’t have always the same level. Remember how Tsitsipas smoked Nadal at Madrid, before the opposite happened at Rome a week later ? Or how Djokovic beat Zverev at WTF last year, before the opposite happened in the final ? Their level varies from match to match, that’s all.
 
robthai said:
Djokovic probably asks himself the same questions regarding losing to a journeyman like Wawrinka in the 2 finals they played.
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Nole has lopsided H2H against Wawrinka, but it wasn't like those 2 finals were epic, or any match points saved. Wawrinka won those comfortably especially at RO. Stan's bh was on fire, maybe those awful shorts were distracting.
 
Fedforever said:
Maybe Djokovic fans could give their guy some credit?

Why do I think if the situation had been reversed people would just have said "really tough on Novak but these things happen in a long career - you'll have massively important points and some you'll get, some you won't". It wouldn't mean that Novak was in any way a lesser player.

Fed has played massively important points before and won them, this time it didn't go his way. If I had to choose between him making the break point shot against Tommy Haas and saving the break points against Nadal in the final game of AO 17 then I'd take them rather than the match points. Maybe the Wimby points were just pay back.

I know you're all having your fun rubbing it in for Federer fans but if you really want Novak to be seen as the best and you really want him to get the respect and attention he deserves then maybe start making him the hero rather than the sidekick in someone else's drama. Would you be going on about this if he'd saved the match points against someone else?
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(y)

Last I checked 2 MP lost does not define a legacy.
 
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