Fed Called out for Cheating?!.

She does strike me as a person suffering from transcortical sensory aphasie with varying degree of severity who - on top of that and to make matters even worse - happens to be reading/seeing things/ filling in figments between the lines excessively...
I'm no psychiatrist, but whatever disorder she's having, I'm sure it can be found in the DSM-V, and if not, it should be added there. ;)
 
Suspicious. I remember that Fedlovers (aka Rafa haters) have called taking a long break from the ATP Tour 'a silent ban'.
Yeah, it's the same thing.

Knee surgery, then barely playing, losing his first grand slam in almost 20 years, losing on his best surface to anyone. Not to mention his terrible slip against Raonic.

But hey, it's the same thing that being 6 months off after winning 2/3 Masters on clay and RG (after trashing a 6-0 6-0 in then world number 10 Juan Monaco). Great comparison!
 
Yp, we know, you've posted this at least 20 times by now. This LONG history includes taking cca. 7-8 MTO's in some 1300 matches, which is roughly 1 MTO every 160 matches. That's a LONG, LONG history.

What's Nadal's count?
Finals at Monte-Carlo, 2008 Federer
Finals at Hamburg, 2008 Federer
Wimbledon 2010: Against Philipp Petzschner
Wimbledon 2011 Del Potro
Monte Carlo 2006 Federer
Australian Open 2014 Wawrinka
2007 Sydney Guccione
2007 WC Federer
2007 Cincinnati J. Monaco
2007 UO Jones
2008 Chennai Youzhny
2008 Rome Ferrero
2009 US Open - Almagro
2008 WC Youzhny
2008 Paris Davdenko
2009 Rotterdam-Dubai Murray
2009 YEC Djokovic
2010 AO Murray
2011 AO Ferrer
2011 Miami Berdych
2011 RG Federer
2011 WC Muller
2011 UO Nalbandian
2015 Stuttgart Tomic
2015 Hamburg Seppi
2016 Rome Djokovic

And my personal favourite:

Now I haven't checked if that's all true or not or if it's even all of them, it's not my list although I remember quite a few of them, but THAT is what you call a LONG HISTORY of MTO's.
haha... some nonsense about a platano, and the commentators don't even want to acknowledge it.

McEnroe: "This is weird. Sore throat, maybe..." :D
 
I know you're a joker out of yourself but this is beyond limits.

Fed (what I have found on the Internet):
Bad back (it's a recurring thing on his career). Was in the middle of the set, right after a break or when the opponent would serve for the set? Hm, I guess not.

So you want to count treatment on changeovers? Alright! We can pump those Nadal numbers previously mentioned.

Asking for a trainer on the fifth set of a four hour marathon? Totally strange and suspicious, right?

Federer serving 2-3 in the third. It was like 3 hours of match at that point, I think. But hey, totally disrupt your opponent rhythm by taking it before your own serve in such a pressuring moment, right?


Yeah, sure thing! Federer couldn't barely move, clearly needed a trainer. Just came from a 5 set turnaround against Benneteau. Just for instance - this set went to a tie-breaker.

He did that after the set finished. Funny, he lost in the following round and never mentioned this pain again unlike someone.

Same thing as above.

Now is this a joke or what? Federer literally had just slipped in a terrible fashion - on his knee that he had a surgery early on.

Almost 36 year old asking for a trainer before playing his second/third fifth set in 2/3 matches? Wow! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Now you want me to break down nadal's MTO and bring up the list including doctors during changeovers?
 
I know you're a joker out of yourself but this is beyond limits.


Bad back (it's a recurring thing on his career). Was in the middle of the set, right after a break or when the opponent would serve for the set? Hm, I guess not.


So you want to count treatment on changeovers? Alright! We can pump those Nadal numbers previously mentioned.


Asking for a trainer on the fifth set of a four hour marathon? Totally strange and suspicious, right?


Federer serving 2-3 in the third. It was like 3 hours of match at that point, I think. But hey, totally disrupt your opponent rhythm by taking it before your own serve in such a pressuring moment, right?




Yeah, sure thing! Federer couldn't barely move, clearly needed a trainer. Just came from a 5 set turnaround against Benneteau. Just for instance - this set went to a tie-breaker.


He did that after the set finished. Funny, he lost in the following round and never mentioned this pain again unlike someone.


Same thing as above.


Now is this a joke or what? Federer literally had just slipped in a terrible fashion - on his knee that he had a surgery early on.



Almost 36 year old asking for a trainer before playing his second/third fifth set in 2/3 matches? Wow! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Now you want me to break down nadal's MTO and bring up the list including doctors during changeovers?
Nothing will change the fact that Fed has a long history of taking MTOs.
 
Yeah, it's the same thing.

Knee surgery, then barely playing, losing his first grand slam in almost 20 years, losing on his best surface to anyone. Not to mention his terrible slip against Raonic.

But hey, it's the same thing that being 6 months off after winning 2/3 Masters on clay and RG (after trashing a 6-0 6-0 in then world number 10 Juan Monaco). Great comparison!
Nothing is justifying the false stories created about Rafa.
 
Yp, we know, you've posted this at least 20 times by now. This LONG history includes taking cca. 7-8 MTO's in some 1300 matches, which is roughly 1 MTO every 160 matches. That's a LONG, LONG history.

What's Nadal's count?
Finals at Monte-Carlo, 2008 Federer
Finals at Hamburg, 2008 Federer
Wimbledon 2010: Against Philipp Petzschner
Wimbledon 2011 Del Potro
Monte Carlo 2006 Federer
Australian Open 2014 Wawrinka
2007 Sydney Guccione
2007 WC Federer
2007 Cincinnati J. Monaco
2007 UO Jones
2008 Chennai Youzhny
2008 Rome Ferrero
2009 US Open - Almagro
2008 WC Youzhny
2008 Paris Davdenko
2009 Rotterdam-Dubai Murray
2009 YEC Djokovic
2010 AO Murray
2011 AO Ferrer
2011 Miami Berdych
2011 RG Federer
2011 WC Muller
2011 UO Nalbandian
2015 Stuttgart Tomic
2015 Hamburg Seppi
2016 Rome Djokovic

And my personal favourite:

Now I haven't checked if that's all true or not or if it's even all of them, it's not my list although I remember quite a few of them, but THAT is what you call a LONG HISTORY of MTO's.
All of the above for legitimate medical reasons.
For example:
 
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I've read that post. In fact, I've quoted it and responded to it - this is why people are again laughing at you. Now I want an answer. Rafa takes on average 3.36x more MTO's than Roger. If Roger has a long history, what does Rafa have?

All of the above for legitimate medical reasons.
Lol. Pigs fly and Rafa still looks 25 in your world as well, right? :)
 
Yp, we know, you've posted this at least 20 times by now. This LONG history includes taking cca. 7-8 MTO's in some 1300 matches, which is roughly 1 MTO every 160 matches. That's a LONG, LONG history.

What's Nadal's count?

2008 Rome Ferrero
This exposes your blatant lies.
 
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I've read that post. In fact, I've quoted it and responded to it - this is why people are again laughing at you. Now I want an answer. Rafa takes on average 3.36x more MTO's than Roger. If Roger has a long history, what does Rafa have?



Lol. Pigs fly and Rafa still looks 25 in your world as well, right? :)
You are obviously not interested in the evidence.
 
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G-Guys, OP hasn't expressed their support of what Cash said. Why are we attacking them? They've just posted something for us to laugh at.
G-Guys, OP hasn't expressed their support of what Cash said. Why are we attacking them? They've just posted something for us to laugh at.
What I find funny/endearing is that Rogi himself didn't get angry about it. Like it wasn't even worth his energy.
 
I've read that post. In fact, I've quoted it and responded to it - this is why people are again laughing at you. Now I want an answer. Rafa takes on average 3.36x more MTO's than Roger. If Roger has a long history, what does Rafa have?

Lol. Pigs fly and Rafa still looks 25 in your world as well, right? :)
Your laughter doesn't change anything.
 
Love the arguments from the RF Fans that throughout his career he's had the least amount of the MTO, therefore, leave him alone.
First of all, we all know (and some of us admit) that RF is amazing and to compete at this level at his age is simply...unique.
However, to have two extensive MTO right after the opponent has tied 2:2 in the match...and then come back like nothing happened?
Reminds me of his terrible WTF injury and burgundy sweater speech, then playing a 100% less than a week later in the DC...
 

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Love the arguments from the RF Fans that throughout his career he's had the least amount of the MTO, therefore, leave him alone.
First of all, we all know (and some of us admit) that RF is amazing and to compete at this level at his age is simply...unique.
However, to have two extensive MTO right after the opponent has tied 2:2 in the match...and then come back like nothing happened?
Reminds me of his terrible WTF injury and burgundy sweater speech, then playing a 100% less than a week later in the DC...
The analogy is disastrous.

Also, your suggestion is that RF just decided to change his whole approach regarding the MTOs, without being granted anything.

:cool:
 
Reminds me of his terrible WTF injury and burgundy sweater speech, then playing a 100% less than a week later in the DC...
1. He didn't say it was a "terrible injury". He just said he wasn't fit enough to compete with Djokovic at that level, which is entirely within his rights to make a call about.

2. Why the hell would he not compete in the final of the 5th biggest event in Tennis if he was fully fit? He went on to make another WTF final the very next year and did face Djokovic, so why do you think he would fake an injury to not play Djokovic in 2014?

3. A week is enough time to recover from certain kinds of niggles and injuries. He's a professional Tennis player with hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank, which affords him the luxury of hiring the best people around to get him reasonably fit in a week or so, provided the injury isn't too serious.
 
The analogy is disastrous.

Also, your suggestion is that RF just decided to change his whole approach regarding the MTOs, without being granted anything.

:cool:
I am not suggesting he changed the strategy with MTO - he's had them before, they are just being overlooked (scroll up a page or two)
 
1. He didn't say it was a "terrible injury". He just said he wasn't fit enough to compete with Djokovic at that level, which is entirely within his rights to make a call about.

2. Why the hell would he not compete in the final of the 5th biggest event in Tennis if he was fully fit? He went on to make another WTF final the very next year and did face Djokovic, so why do you think he would fake an injury to not play Djokovic in 2014?

3. A week is enough time to recover from certain kinds of niggles and injuries. He's a professional Tennis player with hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank, which affords him the luxury of hiring the best people around to get him reasonably fit in a week or so, provided the injury isn't too serious.
2) H2H, his ego. Getting trashed (and have no chance) by someone he does not particularly like and someone threatening his legacy (2014/2015) would hurt more than anything.

3) A total BS. He battled Stan the night before. It was a great match with NO MTO for any injury. To any objective fan, it was also obvious that while Stan had a chance against hot Novak, Federer had no chance in that final. After all, the WTF is the event for the fan's eyes rather than "the 5th biggest event in Tennis" as you portrayed it to be because of the $/points amount. Some of those fans paid a monthly salary to watch the final...
 
2) H2H, his ego. Getting trashed (and have no chance) by someone he does not particularly like and someone threatening his legacy (2014/2015) would hurt more than anything.
So why did he fight so hard to win the semifinal? Wouldn't it have been easier just to tank that match? And why did he also not tank in the 2015 semifinal to avoid Djokovic?

H2H is a stupid reason considering how often he made it to Djokovic and played in 2014 and 2015. Try again.

3) A total BS. He battled Stan the night before. It was a great match with NO MTO for any injury. To any objective fan, it was also obvious that while Stan had a chance against hot Novak, Federer had no chance in that final. After all, the WTF is the event for the fan's eyes rather than "the 5th biggest event in Tennis" as you portrayed it to be because of the $/points amount. Some of those fans paid a monthly salary to watch the final...
Again, if there was no injury and Federer knew he had no chance against Djokovic and wanted to protect his H2H, why even fight that hard to win against Wawrinka? Wouldn't it have been easier to tank against Wawrinka?
 
Love the arguments from the RF Fans that throughout his career he's had the least amount of the MTO, therefore, leave him alone.
First of all, we all know (and some of us admit) that RF is amazing and to compete at this level at his age is simply...unique.
However, to have two extensive MTO right after the opponent has tied 2:2 in the match...and then come back like nothing happened?
Reminds me of his terrible WTF injury and burgundy sweater speech, then playing a 100% less than a week later in the DC...
Thread itself is golden.:cool:
 
So why did he fight so hard to win the semifinal? Wouldn't it have been easier just to tank that match? And why did he also not tank in the 2015 semifinal to avoid Djokovic?

H2H is a stupid reason considering how often he made it to Djokovic and played in 2014 and 2015. Try again.

Again, if there was no injury and Federer knew he had no chance against Djokovic and wanted to protect his H2H, why even fight that hard to win against Wawrinka? Wouldn't it have been easier to tank against Wawrinka?
E G O
He is Stan's "buddy" just like he is Rafa's "buddy". Stan became the Swiss #1, Federer is going to fight not to allow that (plus the trash talk between Stan and Mirka)...
In 99% of matches Federer had a 50/50 (or better) chance against Novak. Go back to the polls taken before every GS final (Wimby, USO...) 2011-2016. THAT is why he fought it. He had no chance in that WTF final (due to exaggerated injury, grueling SF match against Stan, and end of the season).
 
E G O
He is Stan's "buddy" just like he is Rafa's "buddy". Stan became the Swiss #1, Federer is going to fight not to allow that (plus the trash talk between Stan and Mirka)...
That's nice, but that theory has no basis in reality. It's just something you dreamed up.

In 99% of matches Federer had a 50/50 (or better) chance against Novak. Go back to the polls taken before every GS final (Wimby, USO...) 2011-2016.
LOL, what? People here mostly vote for what they want to happen, and this forum has a lot of Federer fans. The more objective metric would be the bookmakers' odds, and I assure you that Djokovic was the favorite for most of the matches according to them.

He had no chance in that WTF final (due to exaggerated injury, grueling SF match against Stan, and end of the season).
So you agree that he had an injury. Thanks for playing. Now you can go back to your cave.
 
E G O
He is Stan's "buddy" just like he is Rafa's "buddy". Stan became the Swiss #1, Federer is going to fight not to allow that (plus the trash talk between Stan and Mirka)...
In 99% of matches Federer had a 50/50 (or better) chance against Novak. Go back to the polls taken before every GS final (Wimby, USO...) 2011-2016. THAT is why he fought it. He had no chance in that WTF final (due to exaggerated injury, grueling SF match against Stan, and end of the season).
...and at what point exactly - according to you it must have been sometime during the SF - did Federer actually realize that the odds had suddenly changed from "50/50 (or better)" to "no chance"?
 
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