Fed fans, Fedal match at USO21, do you want?

Fed fans, Fedal at USO21, do you want it to happen?


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Jonesy

Hall of Fame
Probably one of the most desired encounters by tennis fans at a slam stage, but Fed might not be in the ideal form to face Rafa.

The question is, at this point, do you still want to see Fed facing Rafa at USO? If he is in form, do you think he has a chance?
 

MadariKatu

Professional
Yes, me wants. I Federer goes deep enough to meet Nadal, he might be in good enough shape. If it is to happen, I'd prefer it to be in the final, as it would have more drama and would add to their legacy, but I'd take at any stage.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Roger will be 40 when the USO is next played. What fan of a 40 year old wants him to have his ass handed to him in a slam final? Ask the Rosewall fans how they felt when he reached the 1974 Wimbledon final at age 40 and was brutalized by Connors. Not an even playing field.
 
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Deleted member 771911

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It won't happen and if it did, it won't be any good.
 
Gonna go with no because I don’t think the quality would be bery high this late in their careers. But then again, anything would be better than what we got last year.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Fed is too much of a choker. The last thing he needs is another career defining loss at the the tail end of his career to tack onto his legacy.
If Fed has a tarnished legacy, what are the legacies of guys who literally have HALF his slams? Even Laver and Borg "only" have 11 majors. What about POS garbage pails with only 8 slams like Agassi, Ivan and Connors? Care to submit your thesis on the legacies of those players compared to Fed?
 

socallefty

Legend
It would be a more interesting semifinal than just about any other matchup except maybe Nadal-Djokovic or Djokovic-Thiem which I would prefer in the final anyway. So, I would definitely want it to happen and it should be highly entertaining.
 

Backspin1183

G.O.A.T.
Absolutely yes.
Fedal final at USO21 to decide the GOAT race after rafa wins RG21 & Fed Wim21, both in 5 sets over young challangers who clearly look to be taking over next year.
Yeah Rafa really needs to win one more US Open. At least 5 titles will look good even if he can't win 6.
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
If this match had happened in 2019 USO, Federer would have a great chance. He's been dominating Nadal since '15, just beat him at Wimbledon, should've won Wimbledon!

But a lot happened in 2 years. Look at what happened at '20 AO. Federer needed 14 sets to beat 3 journeymen; by the time he got to SF, he had no gas left.

If Federer even gets to the QF of '21 USO, this is what I predict will happen: he spends so much time on the court in the opening rounds, he will have nothing left for any top 10 player waiting for him!
 

Beckerserve

Legend
Probably one of the most desired encounters by tennis fans at a slam stage, but Fed might not be in the ideal form to face Rafa.

The question is, at this point, do you still want to see Fed facing Rafa at USO? If he is in form, do you think he has a chance?
Yes as would complete the circle. Also they are the 2 greatest 21st century USO players by far, nobody has come close to either so it would be poetic to see them play. Yes Nadal likely wins as Federer not the player he was but the result would not matter. To see the worlds two greatest ever sportsmen play in the worlds best ever tennis stadium would be lovely.
 
Roger will be 40 when the USO is next played. What fan of a 40 year old wants him to have his ass handed to him in a slam final? Ask the Rosewall fans how they felt when he reached the 1974 Wimbledon final at age 40 and was brutalized by Connors. Not an even playing field.
The OP never said that the match would be in the final, but if it were, then I think that just making the final aged 40 would be a monumental achievement, even if Federer were demolished by Nadal. He'd be the first finalist aged 40+ in a LONG time - even Rosewall actually didn't turn 40 until November 1974, about four months after the Wimbledon final in which Connors demolished him and about two months after the US Open final in which Connors demolished him even more straightforwardly.

Also worthy of note that Nadal will be 35 himself by the time of the US Open and so is no spring chicken either. 40 v 35 isn't quite the same as 39.67 v 21.75.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
The OP never said that the match would be in the final, but if it were, then I think that just making the final aged 40 would be a monumental achievement, even if Federer were demolished by Nadal. He'd be the first finalist aged 40+ in a LONG time - even Rosewall actually didn't turn 40 until November 1974, about four months after the Wimbledon final in which Connors demolished him and about two months after the US Open final in which Connors demolished him even more straightforwardly.

Also worthy of note that Nadal will be 35 himself by the time of the US Open and so is no spring chicken either. 40 v 35 isn't quite the same as 39.67 v 21.75.
If they both made final it would be the biggest sporting event of all time and be celebrated as the farewell of the two greatest sportsmen of all time. Result would be academic.
 
If they both made final it would be the biggest sporting event of all time and be celebrated as the farewell of the two greatest sportsmen of all time. Result would be academic.
Farewell for Federer, probably, but if Nadal is still making the US Open final, he's certainly not going to be done so far as Roland Garros is concerned. I honestly think he could be contending at Roland Garros for years to come. (I hope I am wrong).
 

Beckerserve

Legend
Farewell for Federer, probably, but if Nadal is still making the US Open final, he's certainly not going to be done so far as Roland Garros is concerned. I honestly think he could be contending at Roland Garros for years to come. (I hope I am wrong).
At some point though he will lose interest and want to spend more time with his wife and i assume want kids. He could definitely win FO for the next 5 years if he dedicated everything like he has his whole career but there is more to life than tennis for Rafa and at some point i am sure he will see it that way.
 
At some point though he will lose interest and want to spend more time with his wife and i assume want kids. He could definitely win FO for the next 5 years if he dedicated everything like he has his whole career but there is more to life than tennis for Rafa and at some point i am sure he will see it that way.
That might well be true, but that point is unlikely to be reached until he has both overtaken Federer in the slam race and established a significant cushion against Djokovic. It's possible that Nadal will achieve that in 2021 by winning Roland Garros + at least one of Wimbledon and the US Open. But even a Roland Garros win doesn't leave him there, so long as Djokovic wins at least one of the other two and Nadal does not, and it certainly doesn't leave him there if Djokovic wins both of the other two. We'll see!
 

BGod

Legend
Even in 2017 when Fed was riding high but clearly injured after Canada I didn't want that meeting with Rafa.

Moving forward it will be the joke repeated for nearly a decade now where IF they meet it will be R16 or Quarters. In which case the stakes simply don't warrant the appeal. People would be hoping for Becker vs. Sampras at Wimbledon but they'd get Connors vs. Lendl 1992 USO.

Plus at this point is it much of a question who would win? It would likely be Nadal in 3 or an easy 4.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
That might well be true, but that point is unlikely to be reached until he has both overtaken Federer in the slam race and established a significant cushion against Djokovic. It's possible that Nadal will achieve that in 2021 by winning Roland Garros + at least one of Wimbledon and the US Open. But even a Roland Garros win doesn't leave him there, so long as Djokovic wins at least one of the other two and Nadal does not, and it certainly doesn't leave him there if Djokovic wins both of the other two. We'll see!
Have to be honest i think Djokovic missed his chance last year. If he falls 3 behind Nadal after FO it is game over. I think he feels that as he has tried bigging up weeks at no.1 which has come across very contrived.
 
Have to be honest i think Djokovic missed his chance last year. If he falls 3 behind Nadal after FO it is game over. I think he feels that as he has tried bigging up weeks at no.1 which has come across very contrived.
Last year certainly didn't help him, but I don't think it is over if Nadal wins RG. Djokovic might well win two out of the next three Slams, and if Nadal doesn't win the third, that would make the gap just one slam going into RG 2022 - although Nadal will win that one too without going any closer than four sets.
 

Yugram

Legend
The Legend of Avoiderer:

40-15
40-15
Robredo
Del Potro
Dimitrov


5-0 Nadal is the appropriate H2H for them at US Open, according to their level at this Slam.
 

Yugram

Legend
Let’s all guess who Federer will tank to if he’s about to face Nadal in the QF.

Lajovic?
Fucsovics?
Casper Ruud?
 

Beckerserve

Legend
Last year certainly didn't help him, but I don't think it is over if Nadal wins RG. Djokovic might well win two out of the next three Slams, and if Nadal doesn't win the third, that would make the gap just one slam going into RG 2022 - although Nadal will win that one too without going any closer than four sets.
There is a problem though for Rafa and novak. If they just keep winning slams then given their age the inflation argument will start to resonate more. It would be better if a couple of Next Gen could win a couple of slams just to prove this is not a joke era that it is in danger of becomimg
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
The problem for Federer now is getting to the QF, to meet his customary rivals! There might not be any 3-set victories in the first 4 matches! If he gets to QF, he will be exhausted, and will go no further!

For the first time ever, it might even happen at Wimbledon this year!
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Fed himself didn't want it to happen in 2013 and 2017...
Absolute nonsense. Fed was murdering Nad on HC in 2017, and Nad was lucky Fed hurt his back in Canada. Fed also had even worse back problems in 2013 and lost to Robredo early. Nad was lucky he didn't have to face Fed in 2017, definitely, otherwise Fed would've been sitting on slam no.21 vs Nad's 19 now.
 
There is a problem though for Rafa and novak. If they just keep winning slams then given their age the inflation argument will start to resonate more. It would be better if a couple of Next Gen could win a couple of slams just to prove this is not a joke era that it is in danger of becomimg
If it's not already! ;)

My own view is that this is especially true if they win at their weaker Slams. Nadal is clearly so exceptionally good on clay that he can decline a bunch and still be a top contender at Roland Garros at 37 even if the competition is decent. But that's much less true at the US Open, and him contending at the Australian Open or Wimbledon in his late 30s would not be a good look for the tour. Slightly different set of distributions for Djokovic apply but the same overall point.
 

ChrisRF

Hall of Fame
Honestly, before it will finally be over I want every possible big match between any of the Big 3 to happen from now on. Tennis will be boring long enough after they are gone.

And as a Federer fan there is no difference. Every match against Nadal or Djokovic will be a pleasure. Even if he should lose, then at least I enjoy the tension and the fact he didn’t lose to a lesser player.

Really, not a hard question for me at all.
 
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